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09-16-2015 02:44 PM #1 marketone (Member)
John Crestani's Nutra Cartel Review!

Yo whats up stackers!

I haven't posted in a min and decided now was a good time. I have been deep in the dungeons of the John Crestani Nutra Cartel. Its a coaching program for the Nutra Verticals...Skin, Diet and Muscle. I started because i wanted to learn how to run Nutra on FB. We all know this is some under-ground Shit that no one wants to talk about or share. Most of the guys i know doing BIG numbers are doing it on fb with Skin, Diet and Muscle offers. I knew there was an art to getting accts and getting shit approved and it wasn't easy or everyone would be doing it. So my quest for this knowledge began about 6 mths ago...

Since STM London i have been asking around and trying to find some one to coach me and teach me the fb way. Most everyone i spoke to gave me just enough info to peak my interest but not nearly what i needed. Now that i know how it works i realize just how little info they gave me. I also know the reason they kept this knowledge so close...Because its worth So much!

Anyway after 6 months of searching for this Holy Grail i ran across this video of this crazy bearded wild man named John Crestani. Some of you may Know him and some may not. I watched his VSL and of course was curious about his program but was skeptical to say the least. Then In one of his video's he interviewed one of his students that i happen to know named Luis. So i reached out to Luis and asked what the deal was with this program. I Knew Luis wouldn't feed me some bullshit. He told me about his success on fb and how transparent john was and that he genuinely wanted people to succeed.

Well i was definitely intrigued now. I hit up John on fb and then on Skype to talk to him more about it and how it compared to other Programs. He was super cool and answered all my questions. He then put me in touch with his right hand man Carlos. Carlos is another super humble dude and easy to talk to. He broke down the logistics and showed me live accounts with the different networks they were running on. They don't just run on fb...They hit up all the big networks. In our convo i found out Carlos lives only about 45 min away from me. So i decide to shoot up there and have lunch with him. I have to say the dude was super cool and extremely open to share. He answered all my questions and even tolerated my pregnant girlfriend, lol. All in all it was a good experience and a i had a good feeling about these guys. Not that typical Guru Shit we see all the time.

So i took the leap of faith and joined the program. After the interview and after i paid up they put me right onto the video training and broke the course down to me. There is something like 50+ hrs of video training. Now your probably like why the fuck would i pay this much for video training? Don't worry thats exactly what i said at first. Then i started getting into the video's... Johns way of shooting these video's is live over the shoulder shit. He does it on screen right in front of you. All you have to do is pay attention and follow his lead. It demystified the whole process. I used to be intimidated by fb and cloaking and cps Nutra offers. Not anymore! His video's were very in-depth and i must say the dude is pretty damn smart. Some technics he teaches are pretty advanced and not just fb but google also. Even if your running clean white hat shit you can learn a lot from this dude. He is very good at the way he targets and researches competitors.

Not only does he have the Video Training. He also gives you landers, ads, custom audiences, offers, and traffic sources. Oh and i cant forget the mastermind. The guys in there are of all levels and very helpful. Some of the guys have put up BIG numbers and share some very high level information. John and Carlos are also in there and some of Johns other associates. So you always have that ongoing support and can get questions answered 24/7. Everyone shares angles, ads, landers and advanced technics. Im actually very surprised at the level of transparency i see in this group. Not like any other mastermind i have been in.

Oh and to top it off... John gives you access to some of the top offers in the industry and highest payouts. He has his own network called Nutryst. Yeah yeah your probably like oh there's the catch... This is what its all about. Well your wrong and i was too. The way he is structuring this network is not like any other network i have been involved in. He gives everyone in the group access to the best offers and best payouts in the Nutra verticals (Skin, Diet and Muscle). No guess work on whats working and wasting money on testing every offer out there. Also some of these offers you would never be able to get a cap on anyway. This isn't like all these other networks out there. We all know 90% of the affiliate managers don't know shit about your vertical and have never ran a single campaign of their own. These guys know what their doing and they will help streamline your success.

Look I don't usually write shit like this about a coaching program or network. I must say i'm truly impressed with the level of information that is shared. Also john is a pretty open and easy guy to talk to once you get pass the big ass beard and wild man look. I have been doing mobile adult for 3+ years now. I was concerned about switching verticals and cloaking on fb etc... I have to say they made the transition real easy. I know all the basic shit but they offer training on that as well in case you don't. So from beginner to advanced i think his program can offer you something of valuable. I think if you decide to check it out that you wont be disappointed. Although you MUST take action. As much information and support as they offer isn't worth shit if you don't take action. Just like everything we learn here in STM Taking action is the only way to succeed in Affiliate marketing.

Well thats it Fellas! Just wanted to share that with you guys. I know some of you have heard about the program and were Skeptical about it. I hope this helps you make your decision. If you have any questions i will try to answer them when i can. Keep Stacking!


09-16-2015 05:25 PM #2 marketone (Member)

Hey Guys i got some inbox questions about where to find the program. So i'm just going to post the link if you want to check it out yourself. Johncrestani.com
This is not an affiliate link and i do not receive any commission from it. I just wanted to share my honest opinion of the program.


09-17-2015 06:33 PM #3 thebrent (Member)

Do you have a poster of John on your wall with a heart drawn around the head too?


09-17-2015 07:52 PM #4 marketone (Member)

No sir. I was just sharing my experience bro. I know a few people who were interested and figured I would share. Do with it what you like.


09-17-2015 08:52 PM #5 nefig (Member)

Hmm why do I get a feeling this is not the whole story you are telling us... which isn't to say that John is not a cool dude - he sure is.. I met him in London and other meetups


09-17-2015 09:06 PM #6 dusklife (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by thebrent View Post
Do you have a poster of John on your wall with a heart drawn around the head too?
Man this is the leader of the cartel we're talking about here. Show some respect. Wouldn't want the boss to make a lesson of ya!


09-17-2015 09:07 PM #7 technic (Member)

So is this the Carlos that started the follow along the other day the same guy you met up with?

http://stmforum.com/forum/showthread...t-Follow-Along


09-17-2015 09:18 PM #8 marketone (Member)

I Honestly i have no agenda here man. So please don't turn this into something its not. Im not making any claims or putting up an Aff Link. I think its a good program thats all. I also think Aff Accelerator and AMC are good programs but I haven't taken either of the courses to comment on them. I do know people who have had great success with them both..
This program is mainly focused on the Nutra space. My back ground is mainly in Mobile Adult but I have been interested in the Nutra space for a min. So I decided to check it out. Thats about it.


09-17-2015 09:23 PM #9 dynamicsoul (Member)

gooroo's here, gooroo's there, gooroo's fucking eveywhere...


09-17-2015 09:31 PM #10 Gary (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by dynamicsoul View Post
gooroo's here, gooroo's there, gooroo's fucking eveywhere...
Lol, you really have to be an English football fan to understand that one.


09-17-2015 09:38 PM #11 marketone (Member)

You guys are killing me. Look my fault if it offended anyone. I have been on STM for a very long time and i have a decent reputation i would like to think. I have no desire to mislead anyone here. STM has always been good to me and i would never do anything to purposely offend anyone on this forum. So no need for the conspiracy theories.


09-17-2015 09:44 PM #12 johnaff (AMC Alumnus)

gooroo's here, gooroo's there, gooroo's fucking eveywhere...
wats up john here. if there are any questions let me know or feel free to ask here.

My course is a lot of over-the-shoulder videos like this, and campaign guides like this

I started my training course originally bc i had too many people hit me up to run traffic for my company, so decided to double-down and start a network. Also, the in-house media buyer model was not scalable for me, for reasons I can go into on a separate thread if requested.

I feel that the private network model is best way to keep interests aligned between selling a training course, and being fully invested in my students success.


09-17-2015 10:45 PM #13 dynamicsoul (Member)

ignore me I've been on the wine..


however, you may wanna get this looked at: http://prntscr.com/8hjc0m


09-18-2015 12:52 AM #14 zeno (Administrator)

This all looks on the level and sincere... no need to go conspiracy hunting people, calm those flaming instincts.


09-21-2015 05:54 AM #15 gedeve (Member)

Hey Guys, like Marketone I've have recently joined this network and can echo what he's saying.
Just post some questions here like John suggested if you're at all interested in running Nutra offers and need some help with getting started or want to go from 1K to a 10K or more day. It's very condensed and crystallized wealth of information that together with places like STM, common sense and some hard work can be pretty valuable.


09-21-2015 09:39 AM #16 impuls3 (AMC Alumnus)

Quote Originally Posted by gedeve View Post
Hey Guys, like Marketone I've have recently joined this network and can echo what he's saying.
Just post some questions here like John suggested if you're at all interested in running Nutra offers and need some help with getting started or want to go from 1K to a 10K or more day. It's very condensed and crystallized wealth of information that together with places like STM, common sense and some hard work can be pretty valuable.
He has a beard he must be in on it!!


09-21-2015 01:27 PM #17 anguschkong (Member)

For nutra, it is pretty straight forward every spy tool can get u in immediately....


09-22-2015 12:29 AM #18 marketone (Member)
John Crestani's Nutra Cartel Review!

Then why isn't everyone doing it? It's a lot more complex than that man. I have been running mobile adult for years. So I had some idea of what I was in for. Running Nutra on fb is not easy and the info is not readily available. Anyone with bare basic knowledge can spy and swipe. That goes for any vertical. How many people are successful just from knowing how to swipe? Lol If you have been in the game for any length of time you know it's not that easy.


09-22-2015 03:12 AM #19 technic (Member)

Please excuse the rant, but this needs to be said.

How many of us have cloaked grandma's Best Buy, eMachines, Vista IE surfing ass with a nutra ad claiming that grandpa wouldn't be looking at college chicks asses at the mall if she would just order that skin care trial over over at "DR-OZ-SECRETS.COM" that "CNN-HEALTH.ORG" recommends?

Life would be awesome. The good old days in a bottle (magic cream) - all for $4.95 (USD)

How many people here would be pissed if their wife, girlfriend, sister or mom (or grandma for lol's) came home with a rebill like this on their credit card?

Don't front. You would call that shit up and shut it down.

I know, I own some of these products.

Change of heart? NO.

Grandma is happy, Grandpa is happy, you're happy.

But let's be real. It's not easy - exactly like marketone said. People are jaded, networks want your ad spend but not the FTC looking at them in any way, shape or form and that giant disclaimer just cuts conversions in half.

The answer? Cloaking. (I'm outsmarting everyone for $399 a month).

Yes, pulling $1,000,000 million a month with 168 FB accounts is awesome and now grandpa's only "glancing" at mall ass

Thanks Internet.

Love,

Granny


10-21-2015 12:15 PM #20 pandabear (Member)

1 million million.. that's A LOT, congrats!


11-11-2015 06:51 PM #21 bimoca (Member)

Hi,

I went to Crestani's website thanks to this thread. I checked his website and read this:

Are you for real?
Yup. You can add me on facebook although im a little busy these days to respond. You will meet a number of other success stories who I've worked with once you signup for the free trainings above.
And I was "ok, if you've the offers and you train me for free I feel it is quite fair to work direct with your network". I applied to the webinar and I must say that everything was looking good... until he started the old "This would cost you this much and then this other stuff will cost you that much and my knowledge hasn't a price because you can make millions bla bla bla..."

And boom, from "Look, I'm wanna train you so you can drive traffic to my offers and it is a win-win" to "listen, I know shit and for ONLY 4000$ I'll teach it to you"

Maybe I got the whole thing wrong but I mean... if this is about a win-win situation won't be wiser to let the people use that money for Facebook Ads / Native Ads?


11-11-2015 07:57 PM #22 dennis (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by bimoca View Post
Hi,

I went to Crestani's website thanks to this thread. I checked his website and read this:



And I was "ok, if you've the offers and you train me for free I feel it is quite fair to work direct with your network". I applied to the webinar and I must say that everything was looking good... until he started the old "This would cost you this much and then this other stuff will cost you that much and my knowledge hasn't a price because you can make millions bla bla bla..."

And boom, from "Look, I'm wanna train you so you can drive traffic to my offers and it is a win-win" to "listen, I know shit and for ONLY 4000$ I'll teach it to you"

Maybe I got the whole thing wrong but I mean... if this is about a win-win situation won't be wiser to let the people use that money for Facebook Ads / Native Ads?
What guarantee can you give John that you won't run away with the information and run offers at other places?
Why should he give you this information for free in the first place?
Feel free to study everything yourself and maybe Google is your best friend.

There are people doing high numbers with these methods and for them the investment is just like a cup of coffee. (or well, 2 cups)
But in the end, if they find one golden nugget they have already earned that money back + they get to know new like minded people.

If you think it's to expensive, it's probably not for you.


11-11-2015 09:52 PM #23 bimoca (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by dennis View Post
What guarantee can you give John that you won't run away with the information and run offers at other places?
If he truly has "exclusive offers" or the "best direct deals" it shouldn't be a no brainer for me, right? I mean, what will be the point in learning stuff that it is going to work sub-par anywhere else?

Quote Originally Posted by dennis View Post
Why should he give you this information for free in the first place?
Feel free to study everything yourself and maybe Google is your best friend.

There are people doing high numbers with these methods and for them the investment is just like a cup of coffee. (or well, 2 cups)
But in the end, if they find one golden nugget they have already earned that money back + they get to know new like minded people.

If you think it's to expensive, it's probably not for you.
Good for them, really.

I don't mind for anyone's charging whatever they feel like for their knowledge, what bothers me is all the "look, I was like you and tired of everyone not telling the truth, I'm going to teach you so we can grow together" mambo jambo and then BAM, 4000$ bill.

For me it just makes more sense to use that 4000$ in traffic. The guys over at NoHatDigital ask for a deposit of 500$ or so and an interview. If you succeed good for you, they give you the money back and a relationship is forged.

But again, maybe I'm terribly mistaken.


12-01-2015 03:43 PM #24 rockstar john (Member)

The mastermind turned out to be worth every penny for me. best course i've ever bought.


12-17-2015 02:37 PM #25 wannabe (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by anguschkong View Post
For nutra, it is pretty straight forward every spy tool can get u in immediately....
quick-start guide to the nutra vertical: http://www.commerce.senate.gov/publi...z-appendix.pdf


12-18-2015 05:44 AM #26 erwincan (Member)

Additionally, JC's course has been re-vamped. And it's so much better in my opinion... taking a newbie into advanced levels.


01-08-2016 07:13 PM #27 handsomerob (Member)

Is this course still 5k?


01-09-2016 12:05 AM #28 joeb2011 (Member)

Best Course Out there.. Period. Very intensive, but will scare you away if you willing to work hard.


01-12-2016 07:05 PM #29 hellobryan (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by bimoca View Post
If he truly has "exclusive offers" or the "best direct deals" it shouldn't be a no brainer for me, right? I mean, what will be the point in learning stuff that it is going to work sub-par anywhere else?
Sounds penny wise and pound foolish. Hands down the best course I have taken, and completely transferable to other niches. If you're on a learning curve, his course will remove several years.


Quote Originally Posted by bimoca View Post
I don't mind for anyone's charging whatever they feel like for their knowledge, what bothers me is all the "look, I was like you and tired of everyone not telling the truth, I'm going to teach you so we can grow together" mambo jambo and then BAM, 4000$ bill.
"Mambo jambo..." The idea in AM is to sell and that is his angle. Seem you have an issue with the art of affiliate marketing which is the art of selling, his no non-sense sells tactic, and perhaps his success.

Quote Originally Posted by bimoca View Post
For me it just makes more sense to use that 4000$ in traffic. The guys over at NoHatDigital ask for a deposit of 500$ or so and an interview. If you succeed good for you, they give you the money back and a relationship is forged.

But again, maybe I'm terribly mistaken.
I don't think you are mistaken, just short sighted. It is like investing in any business; investments are made to give you knowledge that would have taken you years to acquire and fast track your business and/or provide an edge over the competition that will put you significantly ahead of the small guys, while giving you the leverage to compete with the big guys. I would argue that a $4-5k investment in John's course will help you significantly generate 5-10x more revenue than having note made the investment. That is how business people think, especially when faced with the question of how to grow the bottom line. Hence, I think the question is not why is he charging so much, but rather can his program help generate $5-10k more than you make now? Then begin your evaluation from there. If after careful evaluation you conclude "YES", then find a way to get the money to invest. If "NO", then keep doing it the way you have been doing it. Just my opinion.

No can be mad at you for not making an investment in your business except you.


06-01-2016 05:45 PM #30 rizzoscircus (Member)

Marketone...good overview here. I'm brand new to this community The real leaders are putting themselves out there to share and help others. Crestani is one of them. In my opinion if you don't know the guy or haven't taken your wallet out and invested it's probably not cool to criticize the dude...just saying. I can only speak for myself but I'm grateful that there are people out there willing to share their experiences so people like me have a shot at making some extra money maybe even full-time income here.


06-01-2016 06:41 PM #31 rizzoscircus (Member)

Wow! Thanks a lot of green.


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