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Facebook becomes weird when i increase my budget (13)


09-08-2015 11:38 AM #1 mobpilot (Member)
Facebook becomes weird when i increase my budget

Hey everyone,

When my daily budget is $20 for example, my page ctr is around 50% and cost per click around $0.06. But when i increase my budget to $200 the page ctr is around 29% and cpc around $0.20.

Now the increase in cpc kinda makes sense, because my budget has been increased but then what makes the ctr drop?

And let me mention that it was the same ad, so targeting etc and everything else was the same, the only difference was a budget increase.

Can anyone please shed some light on this matter?

Thank you.


09-08-2015 11:52 AM #2 niceguyteddy (Member)

General Hypothesis:

As you increase your budget the FB algorithm needs to find you more placements for your ad. You end up showing lower in position in a persons feed or session, less first impression traffic and lower quality performance for you.


09-08-2015 12:14 PM #3 mobpilot (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by niceguyteddy View Post
General Hypothesis:

As you increase your budget the FB algorithm needs to find you more placements for your ad. You end up showing lower in position in a persons feed or session, less first impression traffic and lower quality performance for you.
Any solutions to that? I'm only advertising on mobile.


09-08-2015 01:23 PM #4 arlind (Member)

My ROI has always decreased when I would try to increase the budget 5-10x immediately (from $20 to $100-200 immediately).
Just start increasing the budget from $20 to $30 > $40 > $50 > $75 > and so on


09-08-2015 02:21 PM #5 mobpilot (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by arlind View Post
My ROI has always decreased when I would try to increase the budget 5-10x immediately (from $20 to $100-200 immediately).
Just start increasing the budget from $20 to $30 > $40 > $50 > $75 > and so on
Interesting, but i wanted to know whats the reason for this. Makes no sense to me, can someone please explain a bit?


09-08-2015 03:36 PM #6 vitavee ()

You surely know that FB tries to find the best audience for your ads.

But at the same time it's going to use your daily budget in its entirety, no matter what.

Two scenarios where it can affect you negatively:

1/ If during a day your ads appear more times than the number of people matching your perfect audience as determined by FB's algo, they will then be shown to others that are not as good but can still respond. Imagine a circle where the center represents your perfect audience. FB is going to try to target the center first (once it has identified it), and then will go further and further. Remember, FB will consume your budget in its entirety, no matter what.

2/ If your targeted audience is smaller than the number of times your ad is going to appear, then those people will see your ad several times per day. Check the "frequency" metric on your reports. If it's way above 1.0 then people see your ads too often.


09-09-2015 05:04 PM #7 mobpilot (Member)

Yeah but how do i increase my budget while still be on profits?

When my budget is $20 im in profits, if i increase it then loss. Any help?


09-09-2015 05:07 PM #8 vitavee ()

Don't go from $20 to $200, increase it slowly as mentioned by @arlind above.


09-09-2015 08:44 PM #9 dominaweb (Member)

Are you increasing from 20$ to 200$?
You have to let fb to find good public for your ads on the different scenarios of budget.
I tested many times to go from 20$ to 100$, 200$ or 300$ most of the time the ROI goes down like crazy.
But If I follow 10 > 25 > 50 > 100 > 150 > 200 the ROI will be (most of the time) similar and in some cases better


09-09-2015 08:53 PM #10 mobpilot (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by dominaweb View Post
Are you increasing from 20$ to 200$?
You have to let fb to find good public for your ads on the different scenarios of budget.
I tested many times to go from 20$ to 100$, 200$ or 300$ most of the time the ROI goes down like crazy.
But If I follow 10 > 25 > 50 > 100 > 150 > 200 the ROI will be (most of the time) similar and in some cases better
Yeah lol that's what i did.

Hey but when do you actually increase the budget say from $25 to $50, after a day or after a week?


09-10-2015 10:18 AM #11 amsterdamer (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by mobpilot View Post
Yeah lol that's what i did.

Hey but when do you actually increase the budget say from $25 to $50, after a day or after a week?

after a day - i always increase my budget after 12am till 1am.


09-10-2015 12:06 PM #12 dominaweb (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by mobpilot View Post
Yeah lol that's what i did.

Hey but when do you actually increase the budget say from $25 to $50, after a day or after a week?
After a day, of course. You won't wait a week to change it, you want results haha


09-10-2015 12:55 PM #13 Adamw (AMC Alumnus)

raise your budget at the start of a new day (on the accounts time). Even then sometimes it takes a day or so for your ad/campaign to settle in at it's new metrics and then performance will stabilize.


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