What to Choose- AFFcelerator or the 6 WAMC? (18)
As many here probably know, both AFFcelerator and the 6 WAMC are starting up around this month, and I was wondering what people would have to say about both programs.
Im sure that both of them are stellar, and that is not a concern. My main interest would be to see what you guys think would be a more appropriate pick at this point in time considering someone of my experience.
Long story short, I have already run a couple campaigns at this point but have not managed to make either successful or positive ROI.
If you were to choose between taking one of the two, which one would you pick? Taking both courses is obviously a significant investment of money for someone like me who is a newbie in AM and has not gotten their feet fully off of the ground with consistent money-making campaigns. I could possibly afford both if it is worth it, but that would be stretching myself pretty thin.
Any personal experiences with either courses would be highly appreciated!
Since I don't know which topics Mr. Ngo covers, I can't really answer your question, but I can tell what to expect from 6WAMC:
- I was a participant in the first round and I'm thinking of doing it again, because it was that awesome.
- You'll get a lot of fundamental knowledge, which will cover many of your known unknowns and unknown unknowns ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/There_are_known_knowns ). Don't underestimate this, you would need a lot of reading to cover this by yourself. You won't find these information that compressed anywhere else.
- You'll get a lot of DLC. Containing statistics, landing pages, scripts, etc.
- You'll get a lot of networking. Masterminds + there are 24/7 people in the chat with whom you can exchange ideas and opinions. Plus: People are often sharing data openly, so you'll learn a lot.
- You will create campaigns on different traffic sources (display, pops and Facebook).
- Especially if you are into Facebook & the gaming vertical, then it's like the course ever. Zeno Sensei is an absolute expert in this area.
- Zeno is everyday in the chat and is very responsive.
- And a lot of other awesome things, which I forgot because of drinking.
BONUS: - When Zeno is doing stuff and isn't talking, then he's humming, which has a meditative effect and is addictive.
I can only say good things about Affcelerator, because I've been working with Charles for quite some time now, I designed most, if not all of the stuff related to it. I know how Charles works and I've also seen some inside details of the program, and I think it's worth a hell of a lot more than its current price tag. It's not absolutely newbie friendly, you're not going to be taught how to setup tracking and stuff, but since you've already launched a few campaigns and you know your way around, you should be fine.
I'll be attending this 6WAMC and at a later point in time, Affcelerator. Both programs are outstanding, I know that if I could afford going to both at once I would do it!
I think Affcelerator is absolutely the best. You can learn all the technical stuff on stm but if you want to grow your business and make some serious money you need Affcelerator. As Charles says: I'm not in the business of helping people set up their tracker. I'm in the business of creating millionaires
What's the price of Affcelerator, if I may ask?
Originally Posted by emoromanmkt
It was $10K in June, might be going up - not sure. I'm an AFFcelerator alum, I would vouch for it. Money well spent. Has helped me have some great break-throughs.
Originally Posted by Mr Yaz
http://affceleratorsalesletter.instapage.com
http://www.wickedfire.com/shooting-t...er-things.html
interesting debate on wickedfire about all the old top affs becoming gurus.
Originally Posted by amsterdamer
if we're speaking about losing 10k, usually you have no such possibility as you'll learn how to earn money from AM far before you lose ten grands.
Charles talked about upsells in his Affcelerator program, does anyone know what they are and what they cost?
I was part of the 6WAMC and I can highly recommend this course. It took me from a newbie in Feb to making 3 figure profit days and even had some 4 figure days. It teaches you all the fundamentals and Zeno is very supportive. It's that good I will consider doing it again!
However the problem I'm having now is that I am more or less working 12-14 hours every day just to maintain campaigns, this is not how I want to live. So Charles course appeals to me because sounds like will learn a lot about systems and how to delegate work. It should teach how to become a business owner rather than a business operator which essentially what I am.
Can anyone provide more information about the AFFcelerator?
Originally Posted by guyver888
On the side note paying $10k to get mentored will cut your time to success in half by having a go to person to ask any question or even for them to see how your business can improve in any way is well worth it. You can spend $10k in traffic to learn it yourself but to have a mentor will probably save you $10k on the mistakes you are going make during that time.
Originally Posted by andycy
Experiential learning is the best learning there is.
It looks like a really cool program but 10k$ is just too much IMO. If it would be more accessible financially (read: cheaper), i would definitely recommend it to our Affiliates who want to step up their game.
But in this case, I would rather have them spend 99$ a month on STM, read through all the articles and posts here, and then test 10k$ with various campaigns. I think you can learn more that way (learning by doing)
its always time vs money
it depends which you have more then thats the learning style you choose
It will probably piss of a lot of people but in my opinion you are FAR better of spending that money on buying traffic. The fundamentals of affiliate marketing is very basic and hasn't changed much in the last 10 years.
The things you really need to learn nobody can teach you. Resilience, dealing with disappointment, taking risks, motivation, determination - these are all things you learn from doing it yourself and doing it repeatedly. Failing, trying, failing and trying until you find success. Once you realize that 90% of what you do in AM won't work you can start making big strides very quickly.
Yes, its true that you can shorten the learning curve by getting quality information but the big problem is that most people think that a guru course will "make" them successful. The trade off is never $$$ spent on course = 10x $$$ Made. In the long run the knowledge will certainly help you and a few tips can make a big difference. If you expect an immediate return from a guru course then you will most probably be disappointed.
If you can easily afford it, do it. The more you learn and the more connections you make the better. BUT, if its a stretch and you feel that you have to see a quick return on your investment then you might want to think again.
In the end you have to find your own way.
Again, I'm not trying to pick on anyone - I have spent my fair share of money on courses and I am sure both these are loaded with good info. Just make sure that when you do sign up you do it with your eyes wide open. Ultimately the onus is 100% on you to make things work.
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