Ecommerce vs Affiliate Marketing (15)
Hey everyone,
I have not been around lately. Been so busy doing other things.
I am still very much into CPA Marketing, exclusively with direct advertisers.
I've also been doing a lot of ecom this year. I started out pushing shirts on TeeSpring
style platforms (way back last year). I then negotiated significantly better margins for
myself (this is really the only way to make it big) .... built a massive list, and the started
my own brand.
Camps are sitting at 100-300% ROI pretty steady.
What I like about ecom is that it gives you an exit strategy. Most people think you cannot
actually sell stuff on the book. But, it is much easier to push something that is retail than
it is to hustle some questionable weight loss product (for me, anyways). I can easily exit
my brand for multiple six figures, and if I hold on to it of another year - def. 7 figures, b/c it
is growing big time.
Another great thing about it is stability.
I've been invited to Facebook HQ twice this year. Going to have dinner with my rep this weekend
and further establish a solid relationship. Pushing legit stuff on FB makes them love you. And
you do not have to hold your breath everytime you login to your ads account.
Tons of money can be made with CPA, hustling, churning and burning. But it's a tough rack &
you have to be very smart and very intricate to do it big. Some people are .... God bless them
for owning the hustle!
I like to look at the big picture. I want to make a consistent 6 figures a month, which i've
been doing for many years now, and also build a financial asset I can sell off one day.
One of my ecom stores I started on July 4th has already done 160k (rounding up a few bucks).
Another account i started in March that i've done over 400K profit with this year (not gross sales)
And other with over 300k in profit (not gross sales)
This is all pure ecom from FB. This does not include any of my smaller ecom accounts, cpa,
email marketing numbers from the affiliate marketing side of my business.
Over the holidays, now that i've got these bad boys tweaked out, I should do 1mm-2mm in
profit. So glad i focused so hard on this during the beginning of the year to prepare for the
holiday sales rush.
Anyways, I just want you guys to see - there are more options out there. Think big, play smart
and constantly push to achieve your goals. Failure is nothing more than a ladder to success.
.. it is kind of impossible to succeed without failing first in most cases (many times).
This is not all t-shirt money, it's all sorts of stuff. I'm not hear to tell everyone exactly what I
am doing. But, I do want to inspire anyone having trouble and feeling stuck in a rut.
If one person that was going to give up is inspired by this post - and pushes forward to success,
I will consider it a major win for taking the time to make the post.
Hope you guys crush and maybe i'll make it out to a STM meetup one day.
Best,
Hey Adrian,
I don't meant to thread-jack, but I'm in a very similar position as you.
I became a bit tired of the affiliate hustle, but still have campaigns that combined bring in six-figures each month and are pretty much 100% automated.
I spend the rest of my time building ecommerce brands and powerful SEO sites (one of our food websites brings in 1.5 million unique visitors per month and brings in a ton of cash).
I'm now hitting the international market really hard and I'm having a blast, since the competition is almost non-existent.
I've turned a lot of the affiliate campaigns into direct lead gen deals and I'm building legit companies around them, so I can sell them.
The ecommerce properties run on almost auto-pilot because of my team, so those can go for 5-10x multiples.
Hit me up if you want to chat. I'm down.
-J
Nice one Adrian, very inspiring. I never realised you were a member here.
This has inspired me to take action on FB with a clothing brand I've been working for a while on so +rep for giving me a kick up the ass. 
Just out of curiosity, in the cases where it's not just Teespring type of stuff, do you guys buy your inventory and then handle shipping yourselves, or do you dropship?
Big Thanks to the OP, I've been thinking about getting into ecommerce a lot these few months, this thread has inspired me a lot!
Looking to revive this thread. Anyone else interesting in discussing?
I'm still here to discuss (see my post above) and you can add me on Skype - just PM me
I was dropshipping traditional shaving equipment and accessories. Ecommerce is a hassle, every time I had an order I had to phone up supplier to check if it was in stock or not. If it wasn't I would have to cancel the order and sent them an email saying why I couldn't send it. Every time I sent an order to my supplier, they would put my invoice in the package but it had un-delivered address to their company name and address as I was based in another town. So a customer could Google their address and find out their cheaper and buy from them instead of me.
The shop is still live but I've disabled my check-out. Also funny thing was I had a lot of new orders but then the customer would never repeat the order again. So I think I was being screwed over somewhere.
Right product + right targeting = $$$ and FB ads is the easiest way to bring traffic 
Originally Posted by shishev
This is really, really impressive. You are making 160K$ with 122K visitors. Hats off & big congrats!
Product to market fit is important for sure.
I like to let the experts handle shipping and customer service - so I outsource most of this.
It allows me to scale into the millions without a ton of overhead directly.
and further establish a solid relationship. Pushing legit stuff on FB makes them love you. And
you do not have to hold your breath everytime you login to your ads account.
Thanks,
John
Originally Posted by AdrianM
Originally Posted by AdrianM
eCommerce is one of the profitable vertical out there, its not easy but with hard work and some fails along the way you can generate crazy and most important steady sums.
great post AdrianM, I really enjoyed reading this
I have really been focusing on eCommerce using FB for reach, got 2 stores open at the moment. Not making nearly as much as you guys are doing but getting there. In the month of November made brought in about $11000 revenue at 100% ROI, this month has taken a dip, sitting at around $5000 in revenue.
I was wondering if you guys could help me out with a few questions that I have?
1: With regards to FB advertising do you find using a "optimize for conversion" FB campaign is always the best way to sell your products? Or is "clicks to website" FB campaign sometimes a better way to sell? The reason I ask is because the former option always seems to stop spending my full daily budget even with high CTR of 8% while the latter has no problem spending my daily budget at all.
2: Do you find that the "sweet spot" for daily ad spend to conversions and ad reach differs for each niche?
3: Which do you find converts better? Targeting a specific product? or having a eCommerce store that targets multiple products in the same niche?
4: Do you use any advanced tracking such as
5: Fb is changing to the new conversion pixel mid next year, how can i use just one pixel for different niches/stores? Any guides on this? Or any more advanced FB guides for eCommerce at all?
6: Can you recommend any eCommerce courses?
7: Just one more thing, been trying to automate more, any tips on automation tools/wp plugins etc? (I use WP sites for all of my online stores)
I apologize for any noob questions.
Franky
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