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08-15-2015 05:12 PM #1 jgjh151 (Member)
Pay per call tracking variables help needed

I could really use some help if someone has a few mins. I'm running redirect and ppv traffics to landers for pay per call offers. I don't know how set up tracking in Voluum and invova to know what's brining in the conversions. There is web hook in invova with variables but what to do with it?

Seems variables need to go from traffic to lander into invoca and back to Voluum after conversion.


08-17-2015 10:47 AM #2 yepmoney (Senior Member)

Did you tried to pass you clickid's into the ringpool of Invoca?
That way you can upload your clickid's into Voluum to do your optimizations.


08-17-2015 12:15 PM #3 jgjh151 (Member)

No, I thought Ringpools would not work with PPV and redirects because there will be too many to handle. I need to know what source ID and lander converted. Can I pass this into invoca with my campaign ID and get it to show up in Voluum? If so, can you show me how you have your links set up?


08-17-2015 01:07 PM #4 jgjh151 (Member)

Here is my paid calls web hook in Invoca (GET format):
http://abcd.voluumtrk2.com/postback?cid=<transaction_id>&p=<affiliate_payout_ localized>&txid=<original_order_id>

In Invoca, it is showing this for the conversions when fired:
X webhooks fired (X errors), the error is 400.

Campaign link example:
http://ad.domain.com/9e1d66f0-af16-4...2e94?sourceid=[sourceid]&match=[match]&carrier=[carrier]&mob_pf=[mob_pf]&country=[country]&cpc=[cpc]

Lander link:
http://lander-domain.com/en-offer-lp1/?s1={campaign.id}&s2={clickid}


08-17-2015 04:25 PM #5 ringpartner (Member)

You'll need to use RingPools to generate a link that you can use with Voluum.

The problem is that you may run out of numbers and you'll lose tracking.

Ask your network to talk with Invoca to get you "bulk" or "PNAPI" RingPools from Invoca to allow for more numbers. But, it still may not be enough if you have a lot traffic.

-Mike


08-17-2015 06:07 PM #6 talking50 (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by jgjh151 View Post
Here is my paid calls web hook in Invoca (GET format):
http://abcd.voluumtrk2.com/postback?cid=<transaction_id>&p=<affiliate_payout_ localized>&txid=<original_order_id>
Am I missing something, or is there a reason you're passing transaction_id in the cid variable?


08-17-2015 06:30 PM #7 jgjh151 (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by talking50 View Post
Am I missing something, or is there a reason you're passing transaction_id in the cid variable?
What variable from Invoca would go there?



08-17-2015 07:30 PM #8 talking50 (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by jgjh151 View Post
What variable from Invoca would go there?


I just signed up with ringpartner, so I can learn this along with you. But from my end it looks like you're passing your cid variable in the s2 parameter and then asking for it back as their transaction id number, which is why it's not working. From my brief look at their documentation, you need to pass that clickid as a custom value parameter. Have you setup your page to work with their ringpool api? It seems that you have to use this setup in order to pass a custom value like the Voluum clickid, if you don't use a ring pool, you can't pass custom variables.

I think....

I could be completely wrong

http://invoca.uservoice.com/knowledg...1-ringpool-api


08-17-2015 08:15 PM #9 jgjh151 (Member)

Here is screen in Invoca to make URL parameters. This look right?



I'm not really sure how to match up Voluum cid with Invoca conversion id...


08-17-2015 08:29 PM #10 jgjh151 (Member)

Here is where I'm at:

Invoca Webhook:
http://abcd.voluumtrk2.com/postback?cid=<subID>&p=<affiliate_payout_localized >&txid=<original_order_id>

Voluum offer link:
https://offernetwork.ringrevenue.com/c/332/232342342-234-?us=http%3A%2F%2Flander.com%2Fen-offer-lp1&t=33223&subID={clickid}

SubId's match up right like this?

Invoca shows "Webhook URL has unknown replacement parameters: <subID>"


08-17-2015 10:31 PM #11 talking50 (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by jgjh151 View Post
Here is where I'm at:

Invoca Webhook:
http://abcd.voluumtrk2.com/postback?cid=<subID>&p=<affiliate_payout_localized >&txid=<original_order_id>

Voluum offer link:
https://offernetwork.ringrevenue.com/c/332/232342342-234-?us=http%3A%2F%2Flander.com%2Fen-offer-lp1&t=33223&subID={clickid}

SubId's match up right like this?

Invoca shows "Webhook URL has unknown replacement parameters: <subID>"
It looks like SubID is reserved for capturing your ringpoolID, try moving your click id to the s2 parameter.

https://offernetwork.ringrevenue.com/c/332/232342342-234-?us=http%3A%2F%2Flander.com%2Fen-offer-lp1&t=33223&subID=&s2={clickid}


08-18-2015 12:20 AM #12 jgjh151 (Member)

Thanks

When I place this in Invoca:
http://asdasd.voluumtrk2.com/postback?cid=<s2>&p=<affiliate_payout_localized>&t xid=<original_order_id>
It says:
Invalid entries in this form prevented changes from being saved. Please fix the following: Webhook URL has unknown replacement parameters: <s2>


08-18-2015 12:55 PM #13 jgjh151 (Member)

Since Invoca won't let me use <s2> so you think I need to use <dynamic_number_pool_referrer_param1_value> becuase that will be the first paramter being sent into Invoca?

https://f5media.invoca.net/help/tran...ba3111&popup=1

So
http://asdasd.voluumtrk2.com/postback?cid=<dynamic_number_pool_referrer_param1_ value>&p=<affiliate_payout_localized>
and
https://network.ringrevenue.com/c/222/3433-1121-?us=http%3A%2F%2Fmydomain.com%2Fen-offer-lp1&t=33234&subID=&s2={clickid}


08-18-2015 01:09 PM #14 jgjh151 (Member)

Ah, this might help:
https://invoca.uservoice.com/knowled...eb-integration


08-19-2015 12:17 PM #15 jgjh151 (Member)

Since Invoca says <s2> isn't valid, what should I do with the links? dynamic_number_pool_referrer_param1_ is right one?

http://asdasd.voluumtrk2.com/postback?cid=<dynamic_number_pool_referrer_param1_ value>&p=<affiliate_payout_localized>
and
https://network.ringrevenue.com/c/222/3433-1121-?us=http%3A%2F%2Fmydomain.com%2Fen-offer-lp1&t=33234&subID=&s2={clickid}


08-20-2015 10:38 AM #16 jgjh151 (Member)

Anyone have a contact at Invoca?


08-20-2015 11:17 AM #17 xentaa (AMC Alumnus)

This might help as well: http://www.premium23.com/preview-ult...bles-tracking/ . Note, it's a premium post so you would have to subscribe (you can subscribe for 1 month, not expensive).


08-20-2015 03:55 PM #18 ringpartner (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by jgjh151 View Post
Anyone have a contact at Invoca?
Have you tried emailing questions@invoca.com? They're usually pretty responsive.

-Mike


08-20-2015 03:56 PM #19 jgjh151 (Member)

Thanks!


08-24-2015 05:10 PM #20 jgjh151 (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by ringpartner View Post
Have you tried emailing questions@invoca.com? They're usually pretty responsive.

-Mike
Emailed them 4 days ago and no response.


08-25-2015 04:33 PM #21 ringpartner (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by jgjh151 View Post
Emailed them 4 days ago and no response.
Hmmm....add me on Skype - RingPartnerMike or email me at mike@ringpartner.com.

Let's figure this out!

-Mike


09-03-2015 09:43 PM #22 talking50 (Member)

Finally got up and running with an approved campaign at ring partner, did you guys get this figured out? Care to share with the rest of the class?


09-08-2015 06:14 PM #23 hypertargeteric (Member)

You need to create a ringpool with custom variables and make "s2" one of your custom variables, then use the substitution parameter as you've been doing for the webhoook. s2 doesn't exist unless you create a variable for it.


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