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I've Got A Working Campaign! What Should I Do Now? How Do I Scale It? (11)


07-28-2015 05:21 PM #1 caurmen (Administrator)
I've Got A Working Campaign! What Should I Do Now? How Do I Scale It?

So you've got your first consistently profitable campaign? Congratulations!

This lesson will teach you what to do next - because the work, and the profit, is just beginning.


Don't Relax!

Here's the most important thing to know about having a successful campaign: you should not take this as a signal to chill out.

If you've got a successful campaign rolling, now's the time to milk it for all it's worth. Campaigns die as fast as they are created, and most of your campaign ideas won't work out - so when you have one that does, it's time to double down and push it as hard as possible.

And there's only one rule about scaling: if you think you've scaled as much as you can, there's always more to go.


Ways To Scale

There are tons of ways to scale - and you should investigate all of them.



And if you've tried all of those and think you've run out of ways to scale, come ask on the forums and we'll think of some more things to try!



Scaling Tips

Scaling's a bit of an art - here are some useful tips when you're getting started.



BONUS ADVICE - No, Really, Don't Relax! - Advice From A Super-Affiliate

"I would like to emphasize the importance of the "Don't Relax" rule.

It's easy to get this wrong! You've got a profitable campaign doing $1k a day for some time and you think you made it.
You start multiplying that number by 30 to see monthly potential income ( underline potential ) and sometimes that number by 12.

It doesn't work that way...

When you have something doing well MILK IT! It's not going to last for long , that's how affiliate marketing works.
It's way easier to scale a winning campaign then coming up with a brand new campaign doing the same numbers.

I have been guilty of this in the past, but not anymore. When I have a winner I put even more effort than when I test new stuff. "

- bbrock32


12-09-2015 02:37 PM #2 spartanen (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by caurmen View Post
[*]Duplicate! Clone the same campaign many times on the same traffic source. Many sources have similar internal traffic distribution algorithms. On many , just cloning the same campaign over and over with the same bid will give you a lot more traffic compared to a single campaign. Test and see!
That one is pure genius!!! The rest also offcourse but this one... goddamn!!


12-10-2015 01:02 PM #3 kepe95 (Moderator)

[*]Duplicate! Clone the same campaign many times on the same traffic source. Many sources have similar internal traffic distribution algorithms. On many , just cloning the same campaign over and over with the same bid will give you a lot more traffic compared to a single campaign. Test and see!
I experimented with this on pops/redirects when having big campaigns, trying to hit it as hard as possible.

Just duplicating it will drain the performance fast, because everyone is seeing the same lander much more often and right after each other.

What worked well though is doing those two things:

- Setting at different bids, one campaign very high bid, one medium, one low - all for the same targeting

- Using different angles for the same offer for the duplicates. Even if the angles are not as strong as your main angle, it will keep the angle from burning out.\


CAURMEN already mentioned some great gems here, in the end there are so many more little tricks and techniques that are being used out there, not just for scaling but for everything. Just be creative and try something new out. The great thing in AM is that we can just test a theory and see within days or sometimes even hours if our assumptions were correct or not. And if it works, you got one step closer to getting an edge.


12-10-2015 01:44 PM #4 spartanen (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by kepe95 View Post
I experimented with this on pops/redirects when having big campaigns, trying to hit it as hard as possible.

Just duplicating it will drain the performance fast, because everyone is seeing the same lander much more often and right after each other.
I tried it indeed and i noticed the same problem unfortunatly!

Quote Originally Posted by kepe95 View Post
What worked well though is doing those two things:

- Setting at different bids, one campaign very high bid, one medium, one low - all for the same targeting

- Using different angles for the same offer for the duplicates. Even if the angles are not as strong as your main angle, it will keep the angle from burning out.\


CAURMEN already mentioned some great gems here, in the end there are so many more little tricks and techniques that are being used out there, not just for scaling but for everything. Just be creative and try something new out. The great thing in AM is that we can just test a theory and see within days or sometimes even hours if our assumptions were correct or not. And if it works, you got one step closer to getting an edge.
Indeed and trying this out offcourse! Thanks for the tip! I also noticed since i am cutting that i get less impressions. I cut IOS because it wasnt performing and android was doing much better but now i get almost no impressions. Do you have a tip for this and how is this possible? I thought that i would have as much impressions but it only go's direct to Android but it seems its just cutting IOS and not redirect thos impressions to Android only...


12-11-2015 03:06 AM #5 caurmen (Administrator)

@spartanen - yeah, that's a common problem. It's comparatively easy to optimise a lot of campaigns to profit, but lose all your scale in so doing. That's why we tend to emphasise banner and lander optimisation and split testing first, since that doesn't lost you volume.

Having said that your specific case sounds weird. There should be plenty of Android impressions out there! Have you done a lot of optimisation other than that, cutting carriers or placements?


12-11-2015 11:50 AM #6 spartanen (Member)

@caurmen i think its because i had a low bid! I upgraded my bid now... (extra edite: upgraded the bid and did again a few cuts and got almost no impressions). Maybe its takes a while to kick in? (popads btw).

also now i understand why you need a higher bid because you get much more data to cut bad placements etc... i am a bit stuborn as you can see and needed to see/test it for myself! also i wanted to know if i could get green with a lower bid... yes i can... haha

I cut 5 websites and now i wanna start a seperate "campaign" on a few good performing websites. Is that a smart move and do you have tips for that?

furthermore i just cut mobile phones and only have tablet because i saw a much better conversions rate on tablets. Smart move?

And i cut a few browsers.


12-11-2015 01:17 PM #7 cbrughmans (Member)

1. Increase your bid and see what the effect is. Don't think in % but in absute $$$ terms. Its better to make 10% on a $50K campaign than to make 25% on a $10K campaign

2. Add more banners and landing pages and start bidding on those as well - get as much traffic as you can when you are in the green

3. Start testing out new (and comparable) traffic sources

4. Negotiate with your network to get more countries live or to get a comparable campaign in the same or different country. Test those out.

5. Don't sit idle - keep on working on your landers, banners and mediabuying strategy.

6. Work fast - every campaign will eventually die out so you want to make as much as money before it does. Focus on the upscaling, but keep on testing & optimizing along the way

7. Get your network to pay you weekly so you have good cash flow to fund your traffic buys.


05-17-2016 01:11 PM #8 iliass95 (Member)

Hi,
I've got a few profiting campaigns in the health niche doing xxx$ a day, but i can't scale anymore, i'm using bing ads. tried to use google adwords but they didn't accept my ads, tried using Sitescout and even some media buying in Adult sites but ended up losing my shirt! Any advice?


05-17-2016 01:14 PM #9 bobliu (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by iliass95 View Post
Hi,
I've got a few profiting campaigns in the health niche doing xxx$ a day, but i can't scale anymore, i'm using bing ads. tried to use google adwords but they didn't accept my ads, tried using Sitescout and even some media buying in Adult sites but ended up losing my shirt! Any advice?
Have you tried Facebook / Native?


05-18-2016 09:20 AM #10 caurmen (Administrator)

Yeah, Native would definitely be high on my list of things to try in that case.


08-06-2016 08:30 AM #11 ajax212 (Member)

Awesome read


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