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07-11-2015 11:04 AM #1 grayhatmarketer (Member)
Starting Adwords account with cloaking

Hi fellow marketers,

So to cut long story short I'm trying to run my campaign on adwords with cloaking.
I use Fraudbuster as a cloaking solution. What I want to know is if you can survive G hammer without using advance code option? The problem is that I should use domain that doesn't belong to me as a display URL, so cloaker will need to redirect bots/reviewers any way.

I also need suggestions about sustaining accounts without getting flagged.
Should I start with low budget like $50 and raise it every day or should I kick off with higher budget like $2k and keep it for good?

Are there any tips which could help me along the way?

My current setup is VM + 3/4G IPs (Do I need to get socks?) + different billing details for every Adwords.
BTW I don't need multiple adwords accounts, the only reason why I'm running them now is testing to get the perfect setup which can last for a few months.

Would it be a better solution to buy already fully approved Adwords account? Or changing billing details will trigger it for another review?

Thanks

07-21-2015 10:30 AM #2 er_amanbhatia (Member)

The exact query in my mind.
Experts should shower some light on these queries.
Where are STM Geeks.

07-22-2015 08:54 AM #3 presfox (Member)

Hey,

It really depends on what you are cloaking, the truly aggressive stuff wont last on adwords.

With grey hat, you might be running for a few weeks, althrough adwords is a tough nut to crack, and my experience with fraudbuster wasnt that great.

I have ran new accounts without much issue, although they may go into review pretty quickly to check billing info, make sure the adress you use matches the one on your creditcards.

Regards

06-11-2016 06:12 PM #4 nickwilson (Member)

Originally Posted by presfox

Do you know how they verify billing?

Do you just need the zip to match the card?

06-14-2016 08:59 AM #5 nickpeplow (AMC Alumnus)

Are you using a redirect as part of your cloaking method? Your clean page and dirty lander need to be on the same URL, as chrome reports back the path users take after clicking an advert

06-17-2016 08:25 PM #6 nickwilson (Member)

Originally Posted by nickpeplow

Are you using a redirect as part of your cloaking method? Your clean page and dirty lander need to be on the same URL, as chrome reports back the path users take after clicking an advert

If they chrome reports the path after user clicks ad then your cloaked page will always get back to them. Having them on the same url just buy you a little more time?.... Can you elaborate a little more please? Thanks

I have been having issues running with google ... getting banned over and over... last account spent 1500 and then I got suspended and they wont tell me why but policy violation.

06-17-2016 08:48 PM #7 jonemd (Member)

Originally Posted by nickwilson

I have been having issues running with google ... getting banned over and over... last account spent 1500 and then I got suspended and they wont tell me why but policy violation.

I think what Nick is referring to is file_includes or whatever it's called. Effectively both the safe and the money page use the exact same URL - example.com/folder/filename.php

Using that method there is no difference in the URL being reported back.

10-04-2016 05:16 AM #8 rostropowich (Member)

I have accounts lasting for 6+ weeks at 500+day with redirects. You are saying I could do better if I use the same URL for both safe/money page?

10-31-2016 04:38 AM #9 anthony_rner (Member)

guys which vcc you use? can you share with me?

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