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06-24-2015 07:18 AM #1 iAmAttila (Veteran Member)
How I went from $xx,xxx profit per day to $500, then back up to $xx,xxx /day

There's a saying "if you fall, get up again". Unfortunately, its easy to say this but way harder to actually do it when all bad happens.

I've been doing extremely well last few months, constantly pulling in $xx,xxx per day PROFIT. All was going great, and the usual until a traffic source blanked banned all my accounts, how they found them I have no clue.

Before, every week I'd lose one or two accounts and life would go on, but now I was dealt a big blow, and this is where most people would give up.

NOT ME. Every time I am dealt a blow, like last time thanks to fucking Google Developer Policy ending the fun with app installs (yea i stopped apps completely in November of last year) I just get and try again.. and become stronger, smarter,better at this game ... and you know what happens each and every time? I end up making way more money than ever before.

This is very important, if I would've gave up many years ago when I was dealt my first blow (back in the SEO days getting Google slapped... no wait, it was actually back in the dot com bust days .. anyway..) I would've never know what it’s like to travel anywhere I want to go, buy any car I want to buy for cash, or own multiples real estates all bought for cash. But guess what.... I go through the tough times each and every time.

Now that the intro is out of the way, let me share my little plan on what you can do when a traffic source screws up your great and amazing run - I did this many times and it works.

Here's What YOU can do to get up and become stronger than ever before when you fall down and need to get back up again!

If you are running an app install, and your CPA network says you can't run it any longer, what do you do?

You ask the rep, "so what kinds of offers are doing well that DON'T HAVE STUPID CREATIVE RESTRICTIONS?!"

They will tell you a bunch, maybe a dozen or two.

Now if you were MR 1 traffic source guy till now (it can work very very well if the traffic source is good), you might want to ask yourself - do i want to stand on more feet, or only one?
Answer is probably yes, because standing on one foot is more dangerous than on multiples.

Now that we know the best offers, let’s spy on them. I wrote a kick ass spying guide here, but in short, use WRW & SimilarWeb to find out where each of these offers ran the most (what traffic source is the Q we want to answer for each offer)

Open up an excel sheet, column 1 throw in offer name, column 2 put in offer URL, column 3 traffic source1, column 4 traffic source2, column4 traffic source3


Go through the list, and look up every single offer one by one and fill the sheet. After its done look for any patterns, and add up how many times the same traffic source shows up, do this until you narrow the top 3.

Now we have answered our question, where do these types of offers run most (what traffic sources). Great, we have a list of top traffic sources. This is the first place where I'd start.
Next question is to ask, what type of traffic sources are these? POPs? Banner? Native? Redirect? Text Ad? Search?

Determining a common type of traffic source where your offer type ran the most is vital in scaling and standing on more feet so you don't go from 20,000$ per day in rev to $500 overnight.

After you identify the type of traffic channel that seem to work best for this offer, the next thing to do is to build a list of traffic sources that match this type (of traffic source). I personally just hand it off to one of my workers in the office, and have them do it for me. But if you don't swim in the luxury of having workers on standby, then you can do it yourself quite easily.

I'd always consult STM first, to see list of traffic sources people posted. I'd also hit up my love/hate relationship partner - GOOGLE and search for that kind of traffic sources right there.

Once the list is complete, the next thing I'd do is sign up for an account on each of these.

Take my top creative that performed very well in other places (or if it’s a new offer, spy and take the top 3-5 creatives the spy tool shows) and make one campaign, using my BEST lander (proven by past data) and these creative. And I'd run a $50-$100 test on each of these sources. Making sure it spends the money to collect data.

If there are 37 sources for example, I'd have my team setup the same campaign in all 37 sources and let it run.

Remember affiliate marketing things happen super-fast, sure I'll be down $3700 in investment, maybe I'll lose 80% of it on some shit sources, but the chances are I'll discover what works best for this offer really fast, and then I can focus there and go crazy and scale, and maybe add in other geos, and other similar offers on that traffic source to get my money back and then some.

The reason for this post is because it really works, and I wanted to share my way how i got it done fast and efficient so you get try this, and see how well it works for you... because you deserve success!

-iAmAttila


PS: I was going to buy a pretty kick ass piece of property not far from my house here, after calculating the investment needed, the years it would take for the business to start going, factoring in the human resources problem (hard to find serious, dependable workers), I noted that it's best to just invest money into AM, and go at it full force, so me and my team are scaling towards 50,000$/day. - i don't sell any guru products, so you know its true.

In AM results are a matter of days, not a matter of years like with brick and mortar.

I don't know about you, but I don't want to grow too many grey hairs just yet.


06-24-2015 07:37 AM #2 epicskillz (Senior Member)

Really enjoyed your post about your office setup etc! Thanks for sharing this too, great insight into the thinking that goes on in the brains of higher level people like yourself.


06-24-2015 11:36 AM #3 impuls3 (AMC Alumnus)

Great post dude, thank you!


06-24-2015 11:41 AM #4 bitadd (Member)

Typical Attila style post ! Can't get enough of it. With great risk comes great rewards.


06-24-2015 12:20 PM #5 dynamicsoul (Member)

Attila's running this place.


06-24-2015 12:42 PM #6 iAmAttila (Veteran Member)

Quote Originally Posted by dynamicsoul View Post
Attila's running this place.
hah, I wish


06-24-2015 01:39 PM #7 affiliaxeguy (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by iAmAttila View Post
What YOU can do to get up and become stronger than ever before when you fall down and need to get back up again!
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Great Post Atilla i totally agree with that.

its reminds me of a famous Michael Jordan quote that is keep popping every now and then and can relate to the above as well


06-24-2015 03:26 PM #8 hlyghst ()

this is totally true attila. my biggest successes have directly followed followed my biggest failures. fortunately in AM you don't have to wait years, turn arounds can happen in days.


06-24-2015 03:57 PM #9 fishinseo ()

Interesting about the traffic sources. I have one traffic source that I can make work and that is Decisive (Even though I only do ~$50/day profit). I move to G2M or Adivity or other DSPs. Even though those other DSPs basically serve the same sites as Decisive, I lose money on them everyday. I CANNOT make other traffic sources work. Dont even get me started on Popads and Pop traffic.

Im a one trick Pony.


06-24-2015 09:43 PM #10 rianhafiz (Member)

So if you was stopping app install last year, what vertical is making sense to you now?


06-25-2015 04:51 AM #11 egor (AMC Alumnus)

Wow, I see a lot of gold here! Good job iAmAttila! Very inspiring!


06-25-2015 05:51 AM #12 timetraveller (Member)

I learn from you alot in the past,
including this one's "keep pushing"

it has been a while we didn't chat
nice to hear you stay on the top buddy


06-25-2015 08:27 AM #13 johner911 (Member)

Was this an adwords ban?


06-25-2015 09:28 AM #14 panthary (Member)

I live, i die, i live again!!!

Witness him!!!!!!


07-02-2015 10:59 PM #15 cmdeal (Veteran Member)

This should become a follow-along ... a no holds barred, updated daily, 100% transparent at going from just $500 profit a day all the way to the stratosphere, to the moon, and beyond.

I have no doubt you will achieve this, and I have no doubt that this will definitely become THE must-read follow along of 2015.


07-02-2015 11:49 PM #16 saveri0 (Member)

Thanks for sharing, Attila.

Business is not just about hitting home runs, but also being able to stand up over and over and growing stronger Love it!


07-04-2015 12:29 AM #17 vidivo (Member)

+1 for a Iamattila follow along


01-16-2016 07:31 PM #18 bobliu (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by iAmAttila View Post
PS: I was going to buy a pretty kick ass piece of property not far from my house here, after calculating the investment needed, the years it would take for the business to start going, factoring in the human resources problem (hard to find serious, dependable workers), I noted that it's best to just invest money into AM, and go at it full force, so me and my team are scaling towards 50,000$/day. - i don't sell any guru products, so you know its true.
Had a similar experience re real estate. Where do you invest? (would love to see a thread on this from you)


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