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06-12-2015 12:22 PM #1 jgjh151 (Member)
Mobile Sweep

This is my first attempt at a serious mobile sweep campaign after a bunch of little app installs and some email submits. I created some nice landing pages and my CTR is around 37% which sounds great, but the conversion rate is only around 0.12% which blows. So after one day here is where it stands. I'm not sure if I should should put more money into it and keep optimizing or move on. With a CTR that high I feel like it might be a good idea to keep going and try to get higher conversion rate. Towards the end of the $30 started blacklisting some site ids with high impressions and no clicks.

Day 1
Traffic: PopAds (Using STM blacklist from start)
Offer: Get the new iPhone 6, $2, Mundo
Geo: US
LPs: 3 (using beep)
Spend: $30 (Voluum isn't showing this much, using auto for cost in Voluum)
Rev: $6, 2 conversions
CTR: 37%
CR: 0.012$
ROI: -78.59%




06-12-2015 12:54 PM #2 pain2k (Veteran Member)

Does your lp have the elements of the popular landers that do work? Look at what they have and use it to improve yours.


06-12-2015 01:07 PM #3 cbrughmans (Member)

get a free trial account on whatrunswhere, look for landers that work, copy them, run again. You'll make money.


06-12-2015 02:12 PM #4 jgjh151 (Member)

I just don't get if 37% are clicking through the landers why the offer isn't converting higher. It's pop traffic, so after seeing the lander they're clicking the cta button and going to the offer.


06-12-2015 02:19 PM #5 cbrughmans (Member)

most likely because people click to click it away (banners are huge and covering a big part of the screen), CR is therefore on mobile always lower than on desktop


06-12-2015 02:32 PM #6 jgjh151 (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by cbrughmans View Post
most likely because people click to click it away (banners are huge and covering a big part of the screen), CR is therefore on mobile always lower than on desktop
There are no banners. Do you mean the popup window?


06-12-2015 02:34 PM #7 jack45 (AMC Alumnus)

That's a really good LP CTR, are you using any modifications to help achieve this? What is your bid position on PopAds?

Your priority is definitely to split-test offers (ideally from different aff networks).


06-12-2015 02:34 PM #8 cbrughmans (Member)

yes - fat finger problem :-)


06-12-2015 03:15 PM #9 jgjh151 (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by jack45 View Post
That's a really good LP CTR, are you using any modifications to help achieve this? What is your bid position on PopAds?

Your priority is definitely to split-test offers (ideally from different aff networks).
I'm using the back script, countdown, vibrate and audio beep. The lander themes are social media looking. I made them look very realistic to a few social media apps.

Popads postion is 31.


06-12-2015 03:19 PM #10 pain2k (Veteran Member)

Test the same offer in a few networks.


06-12-2015 03:25 PM #11 HenryW (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by pain2k View Post
Test the same offer in a few networks.
Can't emphasize this enough. Split testing at various networks can really help you out, plus you can always leverage networks against each other for payouts, caps etc. - Make the networks work for you!

Quote Originally Posted by pain2k View Post
Does your lp have the elements of the popular landers that do work? Look at what they have and use it to improve yours.
A strong call to action with a countdown, there's some great examples here on the forums of landers that really convert - but as someone above suggested, go hunting on WRW and you'll be able to expand what you're using, find some inspiration and continue to slit test.


06-12-2015 03:58 PM #12 jack45 (AMC Alumnus)

Quote Originally Posted by jgjh151 View Post
I'm using the back script, countdown, vibrate and audio beep. The lander themes are social media looking. I made them look very realistic to a few social media apps.

Popads postion is 31.
Setup tracking to separate the clickthroughs you get from the backbutton and those you get from your call-to-action.
Then you have a view of what you real LP CTR and Offer CR is for the users that clicked-through with an intention to complete the offer.


06-12-2015 04:00 PM #13 jgjh151 (Member)

Sounds good, thanks for all the info, getting offer approvals now. I suppose I could also do the same thing for more english speaking geos without having to change much.


06-12-2015 07:33 PM #14 luckskywalker (Member)

For all recommending wrw, its possible to see lp's? Or only banners? Sorry for asking in your thread op.


06-12-2015 08:33 PM #15 arunbasillal (Member)

I'm using the back script
If you use the back button script, your CTR will be high. Doesn't mean people are interested. Remove the back button script and check your CTR, that will be close to the real CTR.

Also, CTR means nothing. Show in a girl with a cleavage and your CTR will shoot up. Doesn't mean people are interested. They want more boobies, not your product in that case.

Keep testing man. Good luck!


06-14-2015 02:35 AM #16 jgjh151 (Member)

Today's results were pretty bad to say the least.

Day 2
Traffic: PopAds (Using STM blacklist from start)
Offer: Several iPhone 6 sweeps from a few networks , $1.60-$2.12, Mundo/F5
Geo: US
LPs: 3 (using beep)
Spend: $20 (Voluum isn't showing this much, using auto for cost in Voluum)
Rev: $2, 1 conversions, WTF
CTR: 38.86%
CR: 0.06%
ROI: -88.11%
Visits: 4,295
Clicks: 1,669

http://postimg.org/image/fdfzhg34d/
Todos:
Remove back script.
Make more landers.
Cut more shitty placements?
Going to try UK and AU as well when approvals come in Monday.


06-14-2015 02:58 AM #17 mehdi (Member)

Remove the vibrate script mate, it works well on scareware (antivirus etc) but not on sweepstakes, I spent days looking for a reason why my CR% went to shit, I forgot I added the vibrate, automatically thinking (noobie mistake) it will help as it did with my AV camps, turns out it doesn't ^^


06-14-2015 03:17 AM #18 rafael3000 (Member)

I was running a camp similar to yours and have similar results, to my opinion Popads isn't a very good source of traffic


06-14-2015 02:43 PM #19 arunbasillal (Member)

Dont you think the vibrate would work with a pop-up that says "Holy Shit! You can win today!" ?

Quote Originally Posted by mehdi View Post
Remove the vibrate script mate, it works well on scareware (antivirus etc) but not on sweepstakes, I spent days looking for a reason why my CR% went to shit, I forgot I added the vibrate, automatically thinking (noobie mistake) it will help as it did with my AV camps, turns out it doesn't ^^


06-14-2015 03:59 PM #20 mehdi (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by arunbasillal View Post
Dont you think the vibrate would work with a pop-up that says "Holy Shit! You can win today!" ?
Last time I did "think" as I said I ended up losing big $$$, don't think, test

From my tests, vibrate doesn't do well with sweepstakes, too scary I guess.


06-14-2015 05:39 PM #21 arunbasillal (Member)

Sweepstakes are not my thing, so I was just throwing it out there. Its interesting, one would always think that more gimmicks means more conversions, but in reality its not.

Quote Originally Posted by mehdi View Post
Last time I did "think" as I said I ended up losing big $$$, don't think, test

From my tests, vibrate doesn't do well with sweepstakes, too scary I guess.


06-14-2015 05:51 PM #22 pain2k (Veteran Member)

IF I was doing this, I'd use the vibrate stuff with a one message angle and audio dings. I'd use the notification audio you normally get on android phones.

Here, Galaxy S5 Oem audio - download


06-15-2015 12:49 PM #23 jgjh151 (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by rafael3000 View Post
I was running a camp similar to yours and have similar results, to my opinion Popads isn't a very good source of traffic
I ran same offer as above on PopCash and had same results. Going to try zeropark next too.


06-15-2015 01:06 PM #24 jgjh151 (Member)

Day 3
Traffic: PopCash
Offer: Get the new iPhone 6, $2, Mundo/F5
Geo: US
LPs: 3
Spend: $20
Rev: $2, 1 conversion
CTR: 7.7%
CR: 0.18$
ROI: -80.42%
Visits: 7296
Clicks: 564

This was same as original campaign setup on PopAds, just testing diff traffic source. Today I'm going to try to more landers/edits and geos.


06-17-2015 12:46 PM #25 jgjh151 (Member)

Day 4
Traffic: PopAds
Offer: iPhone 6 various offers, $2+, Mundo/F5
Geo: AU
LPs: 5
Spend: $10
Rev: $2.12, 1 conversion
CTR: 16.2%
CR: 0.56%
ROI: -75%
Visits: 1098
Clicks: 178

Added 2 more landers. Looked into WRW. Running UK now. Going to make more landers and add more offers into rotation.


06-17-2015 08:35 PM #26 jgjh151 (Member)

Day 5
Traffic: PopAds/MobiCow
Offer: iPhone 6 various offers, $2+, Mundo/F5
Geo: AU, US, UK
LPs: 7
Spend: $35
Rev: $2, 2 conversions
CTR: 21.20%
CR: 0.16%
ROI: -69.69%
Visits: 5900
Clicks: 1250

Today really blew. Voluum is showing one UK conversion for $7.10, but it is showing as a $0.13 conversion in Mundo as some international offer wall conversion. So stats are a little off. Kind of disappointed with today as I added a bunch of new landers and nothing is converting.

Most of the offers I'm splitting are the networks top iphone offers. I have some landers ripped from WRW that have been going for a while, then some I came up with. Something has to change to make this work.

1 - Do I just make/test more landers
2 - Move to new traffic source?
3 - Should I have all landing pages translated, stick with PopAds and give other geos a try?


06-18-2015 08:43 AM #27 beemarkt (Member)

Hi,
could you drop me a link where I can find '' (Using STM blacklist from start)''.

Thanks Buddy !


06-18-2015 12:16 PM #28 jgjh151 (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by beemarkt View Post
Hi,
could you drop me a link where I can find '' (Using STM blacklist from start)''.

Thanks Buddy !
http://stmforum.com/forum/showthread...pads+blacklist


06-18-2015 07:54 PM #29 jgjh151 (Member)

Day 6
Having my 7 landers translated to 3 other geos. Lower priced traffic than US, UK, AU and many offers to work with. Will post update as soon as traffic resumes. Man Fiverr people do not like/want to translate this stuff.


06-22-2015 07:11 PM #30 jgjh151 (Member)

Translations done, landers created, now just waiting for approvals.


07-17-2015 03:03 AM #31 jgjh151 (Member)

Launched an iPad campaign, it did better than the iPhone. Both are profitable with redirects. Tried duplicating the campaign on DNTX redirects and it didn't work at all. Then I tried DNTX pops, no good. I'll check for more placements tomorrow and look for another redirect source. A few people said try ZeroPark, I thought it would be great for the volume. I'm not sure why it bombed so bad for a converting campaign.

GEO: US
Visits: 3,878
Cicks: 2,033
Conversions: 65
Rev: $130.08
Cost: $34.15
Profit: $95.93
CTR: 52.42% (DNTX killed CTR and CR today)
CR: 1.68%
ROI: 280.86%


07-17-2015 03:16 AM #32 simon_89 (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by jgjh151 View Post
Launched an iPad campaign, it did better than the iPhone. Both are profitable with redirects. Tried duplicating the campaign on DNTX redirects and it didn't work at all. Then I tried DNTX pops, no good. I'll check for more placements tomorrow and look for another redirect source. A few people said try ZeroPark, I thought it would be great for the volume. I'm not sure why it bombed so bad for a converting campaign.

GEO: US
Visits: 3,665
Cicks: 1,898
Conversions: 62
Rev: $124.76
Cost: $32.45
Profit: $92.31
CTR: 51.79% (DNTX killed CTR and CR today)
CR: 1.69%
ROI: 284.44%
Killing it! I'm looking forward to more of your progress! I'm doing mobile sweeps right now as well but focusing specifically on zeropark.


07-17-2015 10:52 AM #33 caurmen (Administrator)

Very cool! $xxx is so close now - exciting times.


07-17-2015 11:49 PM #34 jgjh151 (Member)
Mobile Sweep

Zeropark redirects and pops didn't work for this. DNTX redirects didn't work either. It is still going strong on original source and there are no additional placements. Where should I try scaling now? (U.S. Geo) should I do up some banners and get on pocketmath or go2mobi?


07-18-2015 12:10 AM #35 Mr Green (Administrator)

Quote Originally Posted by jgjh151 View Post
Zeropark redirects and pops didn't work for this. DNTX redirects didn't work either. It is still going strong on original source and there are no additional placements. Where should I try scaling now? (U.S. Geo) should I do up some banners and get on pocketmath or go2mobi?
Mate give everything a go, no reason why you shouldn't try it on pocketmath and go2mobi too.

Have you tried AU on your existing profitable source? Typically it is one of the strongest countries for sweeps.


07-18-2015 12:12 AM #36 jgjh151 (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by Mr Green View Post
Have you tried AU on your existing profitable source? Typically it is one of the strongest countries for sweeps.
Currently waiting on approvals for AU, UK and CA on same source.


07-18-2015 02:54 AM #37 ted_tikoun (Member)

I think you need to have more data for your pops campaigns before to do a conclusion, few weeks ago, I was winning 200$/day on the same verticals and geo just on 1 website.


You need to scan more websites before to found good one.
Don't forget to know if you use the best offers for this.


07-18-2015 02:58 AM #38 jgjh151 (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by ted_tikoun View Post
I think you need to have more data for your pops campaigns before to do a conclusion, few weeks ago, I was winning 200$/day on the same verticals and geo just on 1 website.


You need to scan more websites before to found good one.
Don't forget to know if you use the best offers for this.
Open it up to more placements on the traffic source? Man I've been trying that for days now but nothing else is converting except for 2.


07-18-2015 03:10 AM #39 ted_tikoun (Member)

How many did you spent with popads with your winning LP and offer into the same geo ?


07-18-2015 03:55 AM #40 jgjh151 (Member)

GEO: US
Visits: 2,430
Cicks: 1,470
Conversions: 54
Rev: $111.48
Cost: $22.57
Profit: $88.91
CTR: 60.42%
CR: 3.67%
ROI: 393.99%


07-18-2015 01:19 PM #41 ted_tikoun (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by jgjh151 View Post
Open it up to more placements on the traffic source? Man I've been trying that for days now but nothing else is converting except for 2.
I doubt you've hit the traffic of each websiteID


07-20-2015 08:34 PM #42 jgjh151 (Member)

Tried to run this campaign today on MobiCow pops. 8k visits, 500 clicks, 0 conversions. Pure sh1t.

Been waiting all day for Go2Mobi to approve my campaigns. Gonna try some banners.


07-20-2015 08:54 PM #43 drpheks ()

Damn this thread is inspiring for me as a newbie keep pushing, awesome to see such a fast progress!


07-21-2015 12:39 AM #44 jgjh151 (Member)

Go2Mobi doesn't accept iPhone sweep landers. Anywhere that does where I can try banners? Edit - They do I just need to make some edits to get them to be acceptable.


07-21-2015 06:27 AM #45 oleg2014 (Member)

I would suggest you to talk with Go2Mobi AM directly, and ask about sweep landers. I think there should be at least one exchange that accept such landers. You may need to cut some missleading elements, but at least you may approve such lander.


01-07-2016 07:38 PM #46 mc2882 (Member)

Any updates here? It's impressive how quickly you got to almost $$$ profit per day in less than a month.


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