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05-18-2015 07:50 PM #1 diltsi (Member)
I love teespring but I can't make sells

Hello guys, I would really like to ask few questions from guys who are making sales constantly in Teespring. I'm sure that I'm missing that one little piece of information which would lead me to start making some cash with Teespring. I really like the Teespring thing because it's very white hat and I know I won't be screwing people over. So if you're experienced in Teespring I would really appreciate if you could try to answer these questions:

1. Do you use some sort of scraped custom audience? ( be honest here )

2. How do you proceed with increasing your bids in Facebook ads? I usually do 10$ per day until I have spend about 20$ and then I toss the design away.

3. Have you read/watched any Teespring course which really made you AHAA really hard? I really liked the Broad Targeting Formula by Jeremy R. Salem

4. Do you use PPE / CPC / Website conversion or what type of objective?

5. Any other tips & tricks you're willing to share?


Here's one of my campaign which I copied the idea from Tee Inspector campaign that I saw selling +300 shirts: http://teespring.com/usapatriotic
I have targeted it to people whose political orientation is conservative and they have interest in US Patriots, Nationalist Movement Party and to different kind of patriot apparel shops.

Needless to say, Zero conversions.

I have made also different campaigns targeting Veterinarian job titles who have interest in Siberian Huskies with cool designs and funny texts that hits both and still nothing. I understand that almost no one gets it right early on but I've been pumping campaigns everyday and continue to do so but it's getting really frustrating when I get no sells at all even though in my opinion my designs looks pretty cool and the targeting usually are good.

So what am I missing here?


05-18-2015 09:04 PM #2 rainmakr ()

I've sold over 1,500 shirts last year. Here are my answers:

1: No. Honest. I tried scraping first. Didn't have success with it. And then figured out TARGETING. You can't scrape fast enough to scale really big (I mean anything IS possible). But you can target MILLIONS instantly.

2. Only AFTER I had a few successful campaigns did I start with 50-100 on the first day. Just to get some data.

3. Everything I know I figured out myself, or WATCHED the market.

Search this in google: site:facebook.com teespring.com

*** This will show you teespring campaigns that have gotten indexed by google. If you use Teescover or other spy tools, don't forget that its easy to make your campaigns hidden from the them. (If you haven't done so already go to your account> settings> tick the box next to "Do not show any of my campaigns on google and other search sites"

OR

Put this in your address bar:

https://www.facebook.com/search/str/...word/intersect

*** This will show you all posts (that have been in your news feed, maybe others) that have teespring.com in the ad.

4. Mostly PPE. Because the more they share the cheaper the cost of clicks. Essentially free traffic.

5. Yep. See above. Also, make sure you're audience is LASER targeted. Use the Audience Insights Tool. And CUT away anything that wouldn't fit the market.

Just my 2 cents. Hope it helps.

-Rainmakr


05-18-2015 09:29 PM #3 diltsi (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by rainmakr View Post
I've sold over 1,500 shirts last year. Here are my answers:

1: No. Honest. I tried scraping first. Didn't have success with it. And then figured out TARGETING. You can't scrape fast enough to scale really big (I mean anything IS possible). But you can target MILLIONS instantly.

2. Only AFTER I had a few successful campaigns did I start with 50-100 on the first day. Just to get some data.

3. Everything I know I figured out myself, or WATCHED the market.

Search this in google: site:facebook.com teespring.com

*** This will show you teespring campaigns that have gotten indexed by google. If you use Teescover or other spy tools, don't forget that its easy to make your campaigns hidden from the them. (If you haven't done so already go to your account> settings> tick the box next to "Do not show any of my campaigns on google and other search sites"

OR

Put this in your address bar:

https://www.facebook.com/search/str/...word/intersect

*** This will show you all posts (that have been in your news feed, maybe others) that have teespring.com in the ad.

4. Mostly PPE. Because the more they share the cheaper the cost of clicks. Essentially free traffic.

5. Yep. See above. Also, make sure you're audience is LASER targeted. Use the Audience Insights Tool. And CUT away anything that wouldn't fit the market.

Just my 2 cents. Hope it helps.

-Rainmakr
Thanks man! I really appreciate your input and time used to make that post . I guess I just gotta keep pounding and pounding until something hits. Of course not forgetting quality.


05-18-2015 09:42 PM #4 diltsi (Member)

Also, should I have only dark posts like I have had now? I have a apparel page on facebook but none of my ads are published on the page. Is it worth the possibility of people spying me to get more trust from people in form of likes and such?
Also I think I'll try dropping out mobile ads and use only newsfeed just for testing purpose. I would guess not many people buy with mobilephones.


05-18-2015 10:17 PM #5 rainmakr ()

Quote Originally Posted by diltsi View Post
Also, should I have only dark posts like I have had now? I have a apparel page on facebook but none of my ads are published on the page. Is it worth the possibility of people spying me to get more trust from people in form of likes and such?
Also I think I'll try dropping out mobile ads and use only newsfeed just for testing purpose. I would guess not many people buy with mobilephones.
A couple points:

1. Don't just blindly POUND until something hits. Make smart moves based on DATA
2. Dropping Mobile ads might be the wrong move, I've had about 60-70% of my revenue from mobile. Again make decisions based on DATA not assumptions.
3. Dark Posts don't have organic reach. By NOT publishing the post you are leaving free traffic on the table. Especially with PPE ads.

Good luck man. Keep pushing!

-Rainmakr


05-18-2015 11:28 PM #6 diltsi (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by rainmakr View Post
A couple points:

1. Don't just blindly POUND until something hits. Make smart moves based on DATA
2. Dropping Mobile ads might be the wrong move, I've had about 60-70% of my revenue from mobile. Again make decisions based on DATA not assumptions.
3. Dark Posts don't have organic reach. By NOT publishing the post you are leaving free traffic on the table. Especially with PPE ads.

Good luck man. Keep pushing!

-Rainmakr
Again amazing tips, I would offer you a beer if I would live in Toronto


05-28-2015 11:12 AM #7 zeno (Administrator)

Published posts will benefit from organic distribution as rainmakr said.

However you should use a balance here. You need unpublished posts to test efficiently. But, at least one of your posts should be published or your page just looks barren - and you'll leave free exposure on the table.

So, publish one, or a couple, then use unpublished posts. Gather data, figure what works, then launch your best ads in published AND unpublished formats to get data on which ones make you more money.


06-02-2015 02:50 AM #8 melntak (Member)

Hi Diltsi,

I've been fulltime with Teespring, here's my 2 cents ...

1. Do you use some sort of scraped custom audience?
I did a couple of campaigns using scraped audiences early on but that’s it. Honestly - when you are trying to launch 5-10 campaigns a day it would take up valuable time.

2. How do you proceed with increasing your bids in Facebook ads?
I spend $20 and then cut it straight away. Monday and Tuesdays are usually slow for me so I usually launch with $10 ad spend and then cut after two days.
I've heard of others having success using the slow cooker method - $5 per day until $20 has been spent. This is meant to let Facebook 'warm up' and find the best prospects.

3. Have you read/watched any Teespring course which really made you AHAA really hard? I really liked the Broad Targeting Formula by Jeremy R. Salem.

I was a bit of a course junkie:

Donald Wilson - Facebook Ads Cracked
Demian Caceres and Matt Schmitt - Tee Profits Elite
Chris Record - Dark Post Profits
Matt Schmitt - AI Targeting
Matt Schmitt and Albert - Pi Scaled
Adrian Morrison - TeeAdvantage
Jeff Mills - Social Profit Academy
Peter Parks - DNA Wealth Blueprint

All of the names above I keep close and pay close attention to. Follow them on Facebook. There is a tonne of value in the FB groups for these courses. You will have already joined the FB group 'Teespring News' hopefully.

4. Do you use PPE / CPC / Website conversion or what type of objective?
Mainly PPE but I'm experimenting with CPC and WC.

5. Any other tips & tricks you're willing to share?

* If your just starting out I wouldn't go after the big niches straight away unless you really know the niche (Nurses, Veterans, Gun rights etc). These audiences are being served t-shirt ads daily and the quality of the designs is really high. Maybe think about 5 people that you know really well and list all of their hobbies/interests and go after those.

* With regards to published or dark post - always published unless I want to test copy or segment then I will dark post.

* Regarding "made you AHAA really hard" well there has been some interesting chatter lately about a t-shirt power seller 'sharing' his conversion pixel which has over 100'000 t-shirt conversions on it (Conversion Tracking > Actions> Share Pixel). He was given the green light by his facebook rep to do this (the rep actually encouraged it). The fee to 'tap' into this mega pixel was $997 or there abouts and although it has now closed the last com said that 120 people had signed up. Unfortunately for me I have many niche conversion pixels so have gone back to building one.

If the assumptions are true - i.e. building one massive collaborative intelligent conversion pixel for a specific product exists, then I'm a little worried. How will it impact those of us that are just plugging away on our own.

I'd be really interested to hear feedback from others that have done/are doing this. Perhaps the topic needs further discussion in the FB thread.


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