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05-05-2015 12:11 PM
#1
aushustler87 (AMC Alumnus)
Acceptable Mobile Lander Load Time?
Hey guys,
What's acceptable loading time for a mobile lander?
Is pingdom as good a place as any to test this or are there any better ones out there?
Also, a few threads ive read recommend that i gzip compression my landers for faster load times. Can anyone give me a quick, newbie friendly way to set this up? There'll be a "Thanks" in it for you 
Cheers!
05-05-2015 12:55 PM
#2
bbrock32 (Administrator)
100-200 ms is good enough when I test my servers from blitz.io.
For gzip read this article here :
http://gtmetrix.com/enable-gzip-compression.html
05-06-2015 08:23 AM
#3
aushustler87 (AMC Alumnus)
Cheers bbrock!
05-07-2015 11:04 AM
#4
aushustler87 (AMC Alumnus)
One more question, is 100-200ms when you test your lander by itself or when you test the Voluum link that redirects to the lander?
Blitz looks great, but is there a free service you'd recommend? Is Pingdom good enough for a newbie to start with?
EDIT**Also, can gzip be used with a CDN (which im using) or would i need a VPN?** - Just read another post that suggests that i cant use gzip with a CDN, is there another way that i can compress my landers a bit?
05-07-2015 11:18 AM
#5
caurmen (Administrator)
@aushustler87 - Blitz has a free trial offer which should give you enough credits to be going on with. I only got around to paying for their service after using them for about a year
Pingdom is also a lot, lot better than nothing. Uptrends is good too for international loading times.
Ask your CDN about gzip - if they have a quarter of a clue, they're probably doing it already.
05-07-2015 11:33 AM
#6
ssmarketers (Member)

Originally Posted by
aushustler87
One more question, is 100-200ms when you test your lander by itself or when you test the
Voluum link that redirects to the lander?
I'd also like to see the answer to this question
05-07-2015 02:20 PM
#7
ericchuawc (Member)
100-200ms, wow, that's fast. Mine is at least 5 seconds. My site size is 3.1kb and hosted at Rackspace cloud. Any idea how come you could achieve that fast?
Thanks yeah 
05-07-2015 06:15 PM
#8
aushustler87 (AMC Alumnus)

Originally Posted by
caurmen
@aushustler87 - Blitz has a free trial offer which should give you enough credits to be going on with. I only got around to paying for their service after using them for about a year
Pingdom is also a lot, lot better than nothing. Uptrends is good too for international loading times.
Ask your CDN about gzip - if they have a quarter of a clue, they're probably doing it already.
@caurmen - Thanks mate, i might have missed that part, ill have a look into it shortly!
I only asked about gzip as my lander is scoring between 400-600ms on pingdom and i'm not sure how to bring it down anymore. I don't have any images, its just html and css, and the index file is only 1.6kb. Would you mind if i out my lander and you can make some recommendations to get the load time down? And im sure there's other newbie's out there who'd benefit as well
It's at
http://moblander1.s3.amazonaws.com/AmazonLander2/1.html
Cheers!
05-08-2015 08:37 AM
#9
condorx (Member)
Hello,
I uploaded it to my VPS and tested with pingdom.Load time is 30ms.Lander is really fast.Maybe you should check your hosting settings.
05-08-2015 10:31 AM
#10
aushustler87 (AMC Alumnus)

Originally Posted by
condorx
Hello,
I uploaded it to my VPS and tested with pingdom.Load time is 30ms.Lander is really fast.Maybe you should check your hosting settings.
Oh for real? Thanks. Hmmm yeah i might want to double check them then. I woulda thought an Amazon CDN would be pretty straight forward - i'm even retesting the same locations on pingdom so it'll get cached locally, doesn't seem to make much difference.
05-09-2015 05:01 AM
#11
ericchuawc (Member)
I am going to give that a shot. Putting my lander on rackspace cloud cdn makes my lander in seconds, not even ms.
05-11-2015 09:45 AM
#12
aushustler87 (AMC Alumnus)
***UPDATE***
Ok, good news is i've sorted my loading times!! 
I ended up changing my CDN provider, and my loading times are about 4X faster now!! So not sure wtf was going on at Amazon but im now getting >100ms loading times when i was previously getting over 400, so im pretty stoked about this and keen to see how it affects my campaigns!
05-11-2015 10:07 AM
#13
ryanfuse (Member)

Originally Posted by
aushustler87
***UPDATE***
Ok, good news is i've sorted my loading times!!
I ended up changing my CDN provider, and my loading times are about 4X faster now!! So not sure wtf was going on at Amazon but im now getting >100ms loading times when i was previously getting over 400, so im pretty stoked about this and keen to see how it affects my campaigns!
Mind telling us which CDN provider you're using now, and the geo you're testing from (using pingdom or blitz?)
05-11-2015 11:46 AM
#14
aushustler87 (AMC Alumnus)

Originally Posted by
ryanfuse
Mind telling us which CDN provider you're using now, and the geo you're testing from (using pingdom or blitz?)
Rackspace, USA, pingdom.
05-11-2015 12:11 PM
#15
Chunk (Member)
Awesome, I have another question:
As i am running a survey: the first content is loaded/shown within 200 ms. The rest of the page takes longer than 4 sec.
This is ok too right?
05-11-2015 12:14 PM
#16
ryanfuse (Member)

Originally Posted by
aushustler87
Rackspace, USA, pingdom.
Thanks!
05-12-2015 02:30 AM
#17
zeno (Administrator)

Originally Posted by
aushustler87
@caurmen - Thanks mate, i might have missed that part, ill have a look into it shortly!
I only asked about gzip as my lander is scoring between 400-600ms on pingdom and i'm not sure how to bring it down anymore. I don't have any images, its just html and css, and the index file is only 1.6kb. Would you mind if i out my lander and you can make some recommendations to get the load time down? And im sure there's other newbie's out there who'd benefit as well
It's at
http://moblander1.s3.amazonaws.com/AmazonLander2/1.html
Cheers!
1.6 kB should take virtually no time to load.
With gzip, you can a) enable this through your webserver e.g. nginx, apache, or if using a cdn you can b) make sure it is enabled there.
Last I recall, Amazon Cloudfront had some nuances with support (or lack thereof) with Gzip.
Best bet in this kind of situation is to simply test other CDNs and see if they are better, which I see you did - woot!

Originally Posted by
ericchuawc
100-200ms, wow, that's fast. Mine is at least 5 seconds. My site size is 3.1kb and hosted at Rackspace cloud. Any idea how come you could achieve that fast?
Thanks yeah

It's not normal for this to happen with a CDN and there's a number of things that
could affect the results, e.g. the testing system constantly doing cold lookups, the test traffic not causing your content to be pushed to the CDN edge node, etc. The latter can account for terrible results but wont reflect real-world performance.
In any case, best to test multiple CDNs and see what works better for you.

Originally Posted by
Chunk
Awesome, I have another question:
As i am running a survey: the first content is loaded/shown within 200 ms. The rest of the page takes longer than 4 sec.
This is ok too right?
Does it take 4 seconds to download? Or render? Or is there some animation for example that takes a few seconds to visually go through?
05-12-2015 07:16 AM
#18
Chunk (Member)

Originally Posted by
zeno
Does it take 4 seconds to download? Or render? Or is there some animation for example that takes a few seconds to visually go through?
These are the test results. I let someone look at it and he says that first page is loaded in about 200 ms. There is no animation on the first page, only one logo. However, on the other pages, there is animation, and more pictures to be loaded.
https://www.evernote.com/shard/s449/...cd94f619954a47
It says: waiting time: 209,4 ms
He also said that there is not much i can do extra and i should be proud of what i have ;-). But, maybe you guys have an idea ;-)
05-12-2015 08:00 AM
#19
jakefallon (Member)

Originally Posted by
caurmen
@aushustler87 - Blitz has a free trial offer which should give you enough credits to be going on with. I only got around to paying for their service after using them for about a year

FYI Looks like the only option is $30 a month minimum now. No free credits at all.
05-12-2015 11:26 AM
#20
caurmen (Administrator)
@jakefallon - Ah, balls. Another one bites the dust.
Oh well. Fortunately I have a tutorial coming in a couple of weeks explaining how to do far better load testing than Blitz offers, for less money 
05-12-2015 02:21 PM
#21
Chunk (Member)
@ Zeno, you can find my restuls if you scroll up.
05-12-2015 03:31 PM
#22
ericchuawc (Member)
zeno, what other CDN do you recommend other than rackspace cloud (which I am using now)?
And I don't really needs any VPS like beyondhosting to host my lander (html files) which images/css/js can be hosted on CDN?
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