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04-30-2015 01:32 PM #1 acepowermarketing (AMC Alumnus)
Big money comes from paying customers

Why do customers pay in the adult industry? What do they pay for? I can see many cam sites. What makes the man pay? Again and again? What value does he get that he cannot get from a regular video site?


04-30-2015 01:38 PM #2 bbrock32 (Administrator)

I guess a custom experience?

On private sessions girls do what the customers ask for live in video.

I've heard from a few cam site owners they have customers that spend $100k+ per year.


04-30-2015 01:40 PM #3 Mr Green (Administrator)

^^ "I've heard from a few cam site owners they have customers that spend $100k+ per year."

I've heard that too!


04-30-2015 01:41 PM #4 acepowermarketing (AMC Alumnus)

Maybe I'm going to sign up and pay some credits for a strip show and see how it feels like. Is there like a report on psychology of these guys? Otherwise I think I'm really going to pay some $$$


04-30-2015 01:49 PM #5 bbrock32 (Administrator)

Lol not sure if something like that exists, but spend some money and write it off as "market research"


04-30-2015 01:53 PM #6 acepowermarketing (AMC Alumnus)

Quote Originally Posted by bbrock32 View Post
Lol not sure if something like that exists, but spend some money and write it off as "market research"
I'm sure my partner will be pleased with me watching porn at his expense


04-30-2015 04:22 PM #7 stephen (Member)

am I the only one who clicked on snapshot?


04-30-2015 04:36 PM #8 Mr Green (Administrator)

Yeah for those people in the 400k token range they would be spending somewhere around the 30k - 35k USD mark.


04-30-2015 05:19 PM #9 acepowermarketing (AMC Alumnus)

Is that monthly Stats or yearly or?


04-30-2015 05:38 PM #10 jennatalia (AMC Alumnus)

One tip


04-30-2015 06:14 PM #11 _mcr_ (Moderator)

Twitch (video game streaming) also brings in good money for cammers because it lets people subscribe for a fee in addition to tips, here's a $6969.69 tip:



By the way, Andy is really Mr. Green, he just goes by "Andy."


05-01-2015 04:56 AM #12 Finch (Moderator)

There's no doubt you can land some big fish that make you more money than 95%+ of your other referrals combined.

This is both a blessing and a curse.

It's very difficult to run straight arbitrage campaigns knowing that just one or two referrals might put you in profit. How do you judge a successful campaign until those big fish are caught?

It's one of the more difficult aspects of revshare.

Very difficult to track LTV of each customer.

And even more difficult to predict.

That's why you see cam sites being used as secondary funnels so often.


05-01-2015 08:37 AM #13 iAmAttila (Veteran Member)

I have 12 whitelabelled webcam sites I created over 6 years ago.
They still make a few k every single month and I don't update, or do anything with them or promote them.
They are well established in google, got tons of natural links and all that jazz
Only thing I do is renew the domains once a year for like $10 bucks each.

My trick? Every cam site is a niched cam site and has a catchy brand name.


05-01-2015 08:41 AM #14 jennatalia (AMC Alumnus)

I knew you had a midget porn site!


05-01-2015 09:05 AM #15 iAmAttila (Veteran Member)

Quote Originally Posted by jennatalia View Post
I knew you had a midget porn site!
I do and am proud midget cam owner!


05-07-2015 08:18 AM #16 walterwhite (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by Finch View Post
There's no doubt you can land some big fish that make you more money than 95%+ of your other referrals combined.

This is both a blessing and a curse.

It's very difficult to run straight arbitrage campaigns knowing that just one or two referrals might put you in profit. How do you judge a successful campaign until those big fish are caught?

It's one of the more difficult aspects of revshare.

Very difficult to track LTV of each customer.

And even more difficult to predict.

That's why you see cam sites being used as secondary funnels so often.
I think that's indeed the hard part.

I calculate the average spend per user and the free to paid user conversion. This is how I know how much I can spend per free signup (traffic cost).

Any other techniques ?


05-07-2015 08:43 AM #17 jennatalia (AMC Alumnus)

Find another measure to identify paid subscribers.

Geo?
OS?
Browser?
Use Facebook retargeting pixel to build an audience and look at the audience profile


05-07-2015 12:05 PM #18 acepowermarketing (AMC Alumnus)

i see sooooo many cam adverts, i wonder how are they making money? are they buying ads that no one else wants? is it the site owner themselves buying all all these ads because their profit is so huge?

how do u identify paid subscribers when there are going to be so little conversions? its like a revenue share


05-08-2015 05:22 AM #19 walterwhite (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by xavierfok View Post
i see sooooo many cam adverts, i wonder how are they making money? are they buying ads that no one else wants? is it the site owner themselves buying all all these ads because their profit is so huge?

how do u identify paid subscribers when there are going to be so little conversions? its like a revenue share
I think a lot of cam companies (newer) not only buy for profit, but also for marketing reasons. To get their name out and well-known.


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