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THRIVE - Cloud Managed Service Available (18)

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A lot of people still think that THRIVE is only self-hosted.

As a reminder, THRIVE has an amazing Managed Service where we put you up on our super optimized Amazon cloud setup so you'd never have to worry about server/hosting. We handle everything and deal with any issues that come up personally for you.

• Handles massive volumes of over 10 million clicks/day per install
• We will always beat any competitor in pricing. At high volumes, it is up to 50% lower in pricing
• It is all inclusive. Our add-on modules such as our cloaker will all be included in the pricing
• Priority in feature requests, and we go out of our way for customer support

The pricing starts at $299/mo, and we give you a flat monthly rate based on your needs, which can be scaled at any time. The minimum is at that level since we only want serious marketers for this and so we can provide great service.

In terms of the issues with custom domains, we do not CNAME. We use A Record, which points to a specific IP. You do not share this IP with anyone else so your domain would never be flagged because of anyone else's traffic. Even if it gets flagged, we can switch IPs/domains at any time.

Please contact us if you are interested in our Managed Service with your traffic needs, and we will get you setup personally.

We have a bunch of happy customers from STM and look forward to having more!

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Hi Tom. Do you have multiple datacenters, or just 1? And where are your datacenters located?

I'm currently a Voluum user but I'm considering switching to Thrive so I'm testing it on a VPS. If I were to switch to Thrive I'd likely use your managed service. One of the things I love about Voluum is the redirect speed, which no doubt, is in large part due to their multiple datacenters. Currently this is my primary hesitation in switching to Thrive.

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What does the pricing schedule look like beyond the "starter" plan?

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We're doing this based on your custom requirements. The higher the volume, the cheaper it is. In the millions/day, we are up to 50% less expensive than our competitors. Please contact us about the Managed Service directly.

We use Amazon, so we can place your installs at any data center. With Thrive, each individual installation is in 1 data center, but in comparison, your install is never shared with any other users. Your installation has dedicated resources just for you, and you would never share the same domain, even via CNAME.

Instead, you get your own IP address per installation and we use A Record, so accounts are completely unlinked. If you wanted multiple installations, we can make that happen as well and put them in multiple data centers, at a discounted cost.

I guess there is always trade offs with the options, since we can't give every user their own distributed network of servers across all data centers. However, if you've already got a fast lander setup via CDN, that is most of the speed savings right there, and Thrive's Managed Service, as proven in one of the other threads, can achieve blazing fast speeds. If you have specific questions about your situation and setup, please contact us directly, as every case is different. Our guys will be able assess it for you, and we never BS.

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HI Tom. So I have been using Voluum for a while. I really like their granular tracking. But there are some downsides. So I looked up info on thrive and found great reviews. Heres a few questions.

1) How granulated is your data compared to Voluum ( im assuming you guys did tons of research prior to designing thrive)?
2) How does the cloaker in compared to some of the top cloakers in the market?
3) Is there a there a set price for tracking and cloaking; or is cloaking only an add on feature?
4) Does thrive track multiple paged funnels? ( that's the biggest downside for voluum as they do not)
5) What are some other add on besides the cloaker?

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Hello, answers below:

1) How granulated is your data compared to Voluum ( im assuming you guys did tons of research prior to designing thrive)?

Do you have a specific case you're wondering about? We have all the common variables like device, ISP, OS, browser, etc. Plus, you can see day-parting and week-parting data.
One difference I believe is we can run drill down reports across multiple campaigns and there is no limit on the date range you can pick.
If you have the add-on module enabled, we also provide separate detailed reporting on the bot and cloaked traffic.

2) How does the cloaker in compared to some of the top cloakers in the market?

Most of the cloakers are not really considered compliant as they target specific traffic sources and their approval teams.
Thrive's cloaker has all the capabilities that you'd need in a cloaker, but we are not in the business of maintaining a database of FB approval team IPs, for example. We want to stay compliant and off the radar. We may partner with a 3rd party in the future to integrate this service, though.
This is a do-it-yourself cloaker that essentially allows you to run your own customizable cloaker. We'll be adding more features to the cloaker as we've only just launched it.
You can see all the different rules you can create in the blog post:
http://ipyxel.com/the-cloaker-bot-fi...now-available/

3) Is there a there a set price for tracking and cloaking; or is cloaking only an add on feature?

Self-hosted is set pricing for the tracking, and set pricing for any additional addons. You can see http://thrivetracker.com/pricing.
For our Managed Service, please contact us for pricing for your specific case. All add-on modules are free for Managed Users.

4) Does thrive track multiple paged funnels? ( that's the biggest downside for Voluum as they do not)

Yes, it does. Funnels of any complexity can be tracked through Thrive. You'd just add additional "landing pages" as offer pages and use our Branches feature.
This post goes over how that works:
http://ipyxel.com/create-multiple-br...single-funnel/
It may be worthwhile to go over the other 2 tutorials on upsells first as this is slightly more advanced.

5) What are some other add on besides the cloaker?

The next one we will be launching will be multi-user access controls, so if you have multiple people in your organization you can create roles that have certain restrictions such as not seeing certain campaigns or not having access to certain features.

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Tom,

When you say you can put Thrive on multiple data centers... How does that look from a link perspective? Do i have only one campaign link (with some sort of load balancer?) or would i have to decide which server/geo/Thrive install i want to setup a campaign on?

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With multiple installs in multiple locations, you'd have to decide which link to use. If you're running huge volumes we could setup load balancing for you. I would first compare the speeds via Pingdom first. The tests we've done suggests that the difference isn't big.

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Why? Amazon Route53 has geoDNS capabilities. So all you'd have to do is synchronize the servers. Digital Ocean has some great tutorials about how to do this. I would encourage you to look into it. If you could offer multiple datacenter capabilities and still match or beat Voluum pricing, you would make an even more compelling argument for switching.

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The main reason why it gets expensive is because every user would need a setup that includes an instance in every location Amazon has.

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I was just suggesting that you have this as an option, not make it the default setup for everyone. You wouldn't need to put an instance at every location Amazon has, just where the client wants one.

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How many domains can we A record in? This is one of the biggest limitations for me with Voluum Cause I always need to add more domains.

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Additional domains would need to be CNAME'd unless it's a separate installation. This is the biggest problem they have since essentially all their users share the same domain via CNAME.

With Thrive, at least only your own domains would share the same domain. We can also have separate installations, then you would be able to point A Record individually.

In other words, each individual installation would have their own dedicated resources, not shared with anyone else. You can CNAME additional domains to this install, or we can setup separate installs for you.

If you CNAME, since they're all tied to the same IP/domain, their reputations can affect each other, as you can see with what transpired with them.

Please feel free to contact us detailing your specific needs and we will come up with something that works for you.

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Synchronising a system as dynamic and database-heavy as a click tracking system is no easy feat. This is a huge ask!

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there are 2 things which need to run dynamicly, its the instances of the application itself and the instances of the database.
The application part is the simpler thing as the code isnt changed often and updates can be published to all instances. The database is a different story as it is already some cluster setup in most cases high availability and this need to be run in multiple geos aswell oh boy.

A simple solution for this is to have subdomains assigned to different datacenters and having clones of instances on them separated.

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Quick question - Is it possible to migrate a Thrive database from my own server to the Managed platform so that I don't lose any data?

Also do you have any ETA on when you are launched V2 of the Managed Service?

Thanks,

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It's a lot more work to migrate the database, so we don't do it all the time but it's possible. The amount of work depends on the size of the data. If it's not a huge amount of data, we'll do it no problem, and we'll do it for free.

Just contact our support (through https://accounts.ipyxel.com/support or email support@ipyxel.com) and request it

Regarding our new infrastructure launch, we haven't made public announcements yet but please also ask about this to support.

I'll just say we have started putting users on the fastest redirect speeds worldwide

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Just updated real time data refreshes to 1-5 min for all users. Now Thrive will track clicks from all corners of the world via our hundreds of click tracking servers and will perform the usual caching so the data pulls are super fast all within a few minutes.

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