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Too Much CASH - too little good media buying opportunities (please open and advise) (22)

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Yes,

It's rare - but the challenge we are facing now.

I went a bit lazy lately - and although we accumulated good cash reserves, we dropped in media buying.

Where do I find a capable media buyer with experience of buying at least 150k+ a month worth of ads - to come work for me?

My target market is men 50+ and it's challenge to get it on google and other conservative/with-a-bunch-of-rules places.

Thanks!

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I can't understand why an "experienced" media buyer would work for you. I'm pretty sure you are looking for someone is an experienced and successful media buyer, but if they are successful, they most likely already have a good cash flow and i'm guessing that they would want to work alone.

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well this can be a person who worked for another company previously for years and right now searching for a new opportunities...
or someone experienced but who didn't scale the business to this volumes
$150k+/mo ad spend should give a lot of space for earning $ for both sides

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Exactly, my funnel is wickedly effective and profitable.

Plus, he gets to play with my own cash... Not his own.

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Interesting. Well i would like to apply then lol. I am kinda experience. I've worked as an aff manager i've even owned a network (adclay.com) I was doing media buying with FB pretty heavy in the past

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Do you have any experience with 150k+ a month buys?

Because if I do 1mil a month in passive, I want someone who can at least triple it...
and then it gets different game than when buying media for $100-$1000.

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Nope. Never spent more than $150k a month, my max was 2 years ago $50k/ month sweepstakes offers. The reason why im interested tbh is to be able to play with $150k a month..Sounds too good but im know im not qualified for that

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Do you really think I'd let you "play" with it?

I have that term among people of skills who can then put it in calculated risk.

If I'd even consider giving cash to someone who isn't proven to do good buys... I probably wouldn't have earned that cash in the first place.

So -- 1) you're not qualified 2) yet you ask questions and mud the thread -- why?

If I'd see a thread you posted looking for fat chicks... even though I'd have my opinion on it - I wouldn't mess it for you.

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My bad. I apologize!

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If you had your network, had 50k months... and want some hobby buying, pm me - I like your character that recognizes a mistake, moves forward and focus on good stuff. I'll give you 10k - buy with it - let's see what happens. I have a good feeling about people who can say "my bad" -- because you don't stick to losing buys, you change direction as fast or as slow as it makes biz sense.

Sounds fun? pm me for skype.

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Just PMed you with my kinda small resume Thanks a lot for the opportunity, really appreciate it.

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Aaand... how it went?

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Lots of companies are now hiring media buyers and account managers in India. Not call center people, but really smart cookies. Salaries there for an A-class person are 20% of what they are in the states and europe. Do you have any experience with this?

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I gave him 10k budget.

He spent about 2-3k -- he didn't make it, but was fair enough to let me know and refund the rest.

You can spend millions on shitty traffic and you won't sell even a can of Coca Cola... or you can access premium, high quality traffic and demo target it until it works.

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Over the course of my lifetime I worked with around 110 Indian workers.

I am sorry if it will offend someone - but my conclusion is: "FUCK INDIAN WORKERS!"

It is my personal view based on my experience. After 110 people I'd call it statistically significant.

Your Average Indian Guy

You know what's their problem?

After negotiations and them explaining you in between "Sir"-s and other compliments... you give them your project
with 10 tasks...

they do 7.

You give them remaining 3...

... they do 2.

... and the final one, they never do.

I don't know, is it in the nation, culture, what's fucked up in them... but I never managed to get any intelligent work done by them.

Sure, if you need someone to copy and paste or write worse articles than google translate... then by all means, give them the job.

But if you need someone straightforward, who really gets the picture, avoid Indians.

MY opinion!

You don't like it? Good -- the math is on your side - out of what? 1 BILLION Indians there should be some smart ones. I tried 110 and don't plan on hiring another one - EVER.

Compare it to Russian guy -- if he gets it, he can get done amazing tasks - unless he goes lazy or drinks it away.

US guys -- are more expensive than your average worker, but work ethics, approach is kickass!

I could write a huge report about my experiences -- but the problem is, I tell it as it is -- not caring about what is politically correct, so it might backfire on me... and then - what for? You'll end up hiring Indian sucked in by small price and see it for yourself... OR you won't hire him at all and you don't need my report.

Best of luck...


P.S. I'd rather hire an awesome media buyer and pay him 200k a year so he takes over what we are doing and adds to it... than having to micromanage a bunch of morons. You know A-list guy? Recommend me in pm. Thanks.

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I think for what you are looking for you will have to pay more than $200k. Someone who can take over your media buying and run $150k plus/month in spend assuming a conservative 50% ROI will know his worth and be making more than that already. Maybe try offering a 50/50 split of profits on his traffic with you supplying the offer and cash and him handling the media buys?

Really you supplying the cash isn't that big of a deal for someone of this caliber. The headline number ($150k) may sound big but in reality there is never nearly that much at risk because you would cut placements if quickly if they weren't profitable.

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Hello,
I am insterest with your great opportunity, already send you a massage via PM my ugly CV

I am serious guy, work hard and have similar project before and I think I am fit with the requirement
and want to learn from you

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What does a media buyer at a larger scale do? Send emails? Cold call? Stalk founders/site owners?

I'm thinking -
Flying over to founders, asking them for coffee, wine & dining, whatever it takes to open up negotiations and ultimately close a deal.

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edit: nah

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I do primarily e-mail marketing and generate the most of my traffic by my own. Therefore i do not know media-buying that much myself. Just entered here yesterday to learn about it...

However i use Linkedin a lot to get in contact with direct advertisers for my offers i run on e-mail. I don't know how active you are at linkedin, but posts can be quite effective, if written in a attractive way. I know a couple of media buyers in the gaming business, who got their job through linked-in. Most of them relocated and are top motivated, even though they only make a small percentage of the money generated.

The problem is just about loyalty and people vouching for them, since linkedin became a place where a lot of people just connect up. However it's a good opportunity to gain a lot of readers, possibly many resumes and you can potentially see if they have worked with someone you know.

I met a lot of people there who do not fit under the: "conservative/with-a-bunch-of-rules places"

Good hunting.

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If you want loyalty you could always pay them a flat salary and do a profit share. "Employable" Media Buyers definitely exist, but I don't know why they don't do the shit on their own.

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