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2 Examples of Offers Running on FB Without Fear of Being Banned (52)


04-21-2015 04:26 PM #1 vitavee ()
2 Examples of Offers Running on FB Without Fear of Being Banned

I recently replied to Eric's thread here where he asked if there was anyone making money with compliant campaigns .

I offered him to PM me to see an example of what I'm running. Since I've received many PMs I think it's a better idea to post the examples here for everyone.

Here is the 1st one - it's in the diabetic niche.

The example I show here targets diabetics reminding them all the good food they could eat before being diabetics, so my ads and lander insist on this point.

The ads look like this:



The lander looks like this:



And the thank you page looks like this:



I then promote the same affiliate product in the backend with 5 or 6 emails.

Here is the 2nd example - it's in the parenting niche.

The example here targets homeschool moms who want to teach their kids how to read.
It's an example I have already shared in another thread in video formats (where I build the campaign from start to finish and make profits from it in less than 24 hours)

The ad looks like this:



I then redirect them to a series of presell pages. On the last page there is an optin form.

The 1st presell page looks like this:



We don't see on this screenshot but at the bottom there is a link to the 2nd page.

These are 2 examples of ads/landers running without any issue on FB.


04-21-2015 05:51 PM #2 batou069 (Member)

What kind of offers are these? Network?


04-21-2015 06:20 PM #3 dynamicsoul (Member)

Looks like CB to me.. diabetesfree.org is smashing it on CB. Loads promote it through Taboola also.


04-21-2015 06:20 PM #4 sleenirvana (Member)

I was planning on doing something like this for my angle and offer. But something like this will have a big click lost due to a longer funnel. At the end if there are neg feedbacks, the account will still be banned.


04-21-2015 06:33 PM #5 franco12 (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by sleenirvana View Post
.....the end if there are neg feedbacks, the account will still be banned.
FBQueen proposed in other post to first create your FB fanpage. get likes in order to improve your FB quality score. then advertise.

Bonus idea: leadpages.net allows you to upload your landing page on your fanpage. when you advertise, you point to this page. FB likes that. you might save 5%-30% on your CPC (I've had all sorts of results).


04-21-2015 06:59 PM #6 vitavee ()

Quote Originally Posted by batou069 View Post
What kind of offers are these? Network?
Both are CB Offers.

Quote Originally Posted by sleenirvana View Post
I was planning on doing something like this for my angle and offer. But something like this will have a big click lost due to a longer funnel. At the end if there are neg feedbacks, the account will still be banned.
Look at this:



55% of people entering the funnel reach the 3rd presell page. 45% reach the CB offer.

And:



65% of those reaching the optin page subscribe to the mailing list. Plus those who reach the CB offer convert at a rate of 3.6%.

Plus the ads get lots of likes and shares.

And look at the relevance score on FB:



9/10 - excellent scrore. People love those ads

Everything is congruent. I give them what is promised in the ad. There is no reason for them to complain.


Quote Originally Posted by franco12 View Post
FBQueen proposed in other post to first create your FB fanpage. get likes in order to improve your FB quality score. then advertise.

Bonus idea: leadpages.net allows you to upload your landing page on your fanpage. when you advertise, you point to this page. FB likes that. you might save 5%-30% on your CPC (I've had all sorts of results).
I've used leadpages' FB optins and they're not working well on mobile. That was a big issue for me. Did you have a good experience with it?


04-21-2015 07:43 PM #7 stephen (Member)

genius thread!

think out of the box guys!!!


04-21-2015 10:18 PM #8 The Angry Russian (Moderator)

This is an example of a very smart marketer thanks for schooling all these kids showing them there is a world outside of rebills!


04-22-2015 05:19 AM #9 Mr Green (Administrator)

Respect sir!


04-22-2015 07:02 AM #10 stephen (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by The Angry Russian View Post
This is an example of a very smart marketer thanks for schooling all these kids showing them there is a world outside of rebills!
Noooo.

You're telling me you can make money outside of rebills?


04-22-2015 07:08 AM #11 gianishere (Member)

Awesome, thank you very much for the information.


04-22-2015 08:07 AM #12 bbrock32 (Administrator)

Solid proof that there is money to be made without cloaking on FB.

Cheers!


04-22-2015 08:55 AM #13 stephen (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by bbrock32 View Post
Solid proof that there is money to be made without cloaking on FB.

Cheers!
Takes a little longer to setup though.


04-22-2015 09:08 AM #14 batou069 (Member)

Sorry for noob question, what is CB?


04-22-2015 09:17 AM #15 stephen (Member)

Clickbank


04-22-2015 09:34 AM #16 h0mp (Member)

and guys.. please have mercy and don't pile up on diabetes and reading offers. CB has offers in some of the weirdest niches.


04-22-2015 09:42 AM #17 stephen (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by h0mp View Post
and guys.. please have mercy and don't pile up on diabetes and reading offers. CB has offers in some of the weirdest niches.
Hahahha let's create a Wso.


04-22-2015 09:48 AM #18 dynamicsoul (Member)

and don't go by gravity alone for picking offers.. it's means jack shit.

Gravity is a calculation based around the amount of affiliates promoting and converting it (can't remember the exact way its done).. which means, a high gravity product could be high gravity because 500 affiliates have made 1 sale each.. hence why the new "MMO" JV's tend to get high gravity right off the bat.

Over the years I've had great success with products in the 10 - 60 gravity range. Just needs a few tests to see if people are creatng order form impressions. One of my best campaigns on FB was running the Sterling Solar offer, which was always in the 10 - 20 range.


04-22-2015 10:04 AM #19 dynamicsoul (Member)

Infact, it might still be a good offer to test using the vitavee method above. Creating a landing page to warm up the visitors to an idea of getting "off the grid" for free etc..

Blast them with some useful info and warm them up to the offer. It used to convert well with interests like clean energy and self suffiient living etc.. and that was direct linked. (before I got FB complaints lol)..


04-22-2015 10:43 AM #20 black hand (Member)

Great post. Any similar examples for ecommerce?


04-22-2015 02:01 PM #21 Smaxor (Veteran Member)

First off Awesome post Vitavee. It's funny what is so prevalent in other worlds is earth shattering in CPA.

Most powerful thing about this whole post is everyone should be thinking about building an asset in their business.

If you stopped sending traffic today would you still be making money?

I have affiliate friends that have done these exact strategies and make roughly $250-800k/mo just emailing their lists. The golden ticket is if you can run traffic to something, capture that user and make them yours, then monetize them profitably with a 3rd party offer.

This way you build a list of all your customers as an asset inside your business. For those of you that have run 100's of thousands in sales. imagine if you had that list of people to retarget, then email. You have a very valuable asset that is now sellable and worth money to someone. Campaigns are only worth the cash flow they generate in the time being. A list is a valuable asset over time. Start building one today.

Check out http://www.digitalmarketer.com he has some great stuff on funnel building & emailing your list.


04-22-2015 03:52 PM #22 atom64 ()

hehe vitavee is kicking ass
you guys dont know who vitavee is, just google his name and you will see some awesome courses showing him banking in realtime. His content is always high quality


04-22-2015 04:46 PM #23 cmdeal (Veteran Member)

Hey there,

Nice first couple of posts! Welcome to the forum.

Just a minor point: given that the second offer you are promoting is for an English language literacy education product, you should make sure that your English grammar on landing page is correct.

Instead of

"Their development and education is extremely to us."

this should be

"Their development and education are extremely to us."


04-22-2015 05:45 PM #24 vitavee ()

Quote Originally Posted by cmdeal View Post
Hey there,

Nice first couple of posts! Welcome to the forum.

Just a minor point: given that the second offer you are promoting is for an English language literacy education product, you should make sure that your English grammar on landing page is correct.

Instead of

"Their development and education is extremely to us."

this should be

"Their development and education are extremely to us."
Yarks :-) Thanks!

Just fixed this


04-25-2015 06:00 PM #25 pain2k (Veteran Member)

Actually the english grammar is correct unless it was a case of using "they".


04-27-2015 05:15 PM #26 franco12 (Member)

I've used leadpages' FB optins and they're not working well on mobile. That was a big issue for me. Did you have a good experience with it?[/QUOTE]

No, never tried mobile. But good to know! Thanks!


05-12-2015 01:26 PM #27 EpicTrends ()

AWESOME this is gold, thank you!


05-12-2015 01:45 PM #28 allnblue (Member)

I'd be creating funnels... but FUNNEL FLUX IS CLOSED.


05-12-2015 02:45 PM #29 affiliaxeoran (Member)

Great post, thanks!!


05-12-2015 03:42 PM #30 dynamicsoul (Member)

You can try clickfunnels.. it's free for a trial I think.


05-14-2015 09:40 PM #31 zenmoney ()

Great stuff, always wanted to test something like this out but never got around to it. The only thing I'd say is you'll probably still eventually get banned seeing as how your Negative Feedback score on the ads are high... even though you have a 9/10 relevance score, FB seems to look at high negative feedback and hand out bans. If you could bring down that negative feedback should be good to go.


05-20-2015 09:33 AM #32 ari_ (Member)

zenmoney - have you seen negative feedback cause banning? over what time frame? I have ads that go all over the place - low to medium to high back down to medium and low for neg feedback.


05-21-2015 02:02 AM #33 zenmoney ()

Quote Originally Posted by ari_ View Post
zenmoney - have you seen negative feedback cause banning? over what time frame? I have ads that go all over the place - low to medium to high back down to medium and low for neg feedback.
I recently had one of our above board agency accounts banned running mortgage leads using an advertorial page. I had 10/10 in terms of relevance score, but I had high positive and high negative feedback. I'm assuming the high negative feedback led to the ban but I could be wrong, I'll have to contact fb and see why they don't want me promoting mortgage lead gen lol.


05-21-2015 02:43 AM #34 vitavee ()

Did you check the frequency your ads were displayed to the same people? They complain more when they see the same ad multiple times over a long period of time.


05-21-2015 02:59 AM #35 zenmoney ()

Quote Originally Posted by vitavee View Post
Did you check the frequency your ads were displayed to the same people? They complain more when they see the same ad multiple times over a long period of time.
Frequency is 1.02 -- all ads approved by FB, no funny business whatsoever, banned message says for Policy Violations, only things I ever ran on this account were Car Insurance Lead Gen and Mortgage Lead Gen, very large demo of 26,000,000.


05-21-2015 03:14 AM #36 vitavee ()

Not sure but for car insurance leads wouldn't you fall into their subscription service policy requiring a "subscription required" mention in the ad?
https://www.facebook.com/help/128776380545106


05-21-2015 03:34 AM #37 Finch (Moderator)

It's good to see affiliates are still finding 'white hat' ways of making FB work.

I haven't touched it in a long time now.

Props for exposing your campaigns to the pack!


06-04-2015 11:09 AM #38 impuls3 (AMC Alumnus)

What are you using to mail CB offers? Mailchimp etc hate Clickbank.


06-04-2015 12:45 PM #39 vitavee ()

I've been using aweber as well as this wordpress plugin + Amazon SES.


06-08-2015 11:26 AM #40 23999 (Member)

Hi, It sound you are so mature on FB ads, and I am wondering if you could figure out there is a spy tool, which could give more details,like likes, ages or habits and more important: the facebook account information about your ad's audiences?! I used to use it , but nearly forget the tool's name. could you help me a hint or recommend?
THX!


06-11-2015 09:00 PM #41 wildfing (Member)

They don't look negative in my eyes. There are people saying "Why would people take stupid pills to do such and such" but thats not negative as in calling out Scam and reporting the ad though


07-02-2015 07:14 AM #42 hlyghst ()

Quote Originally Posted by Smaxor View Post

I have affiliate friends that have done these exact strategies and make roughly $250-800k/mo just emailing their lists. The golden ticket is if you can run traffic to something, capture that user and make them yours, then monetize them profitably with a 3rd party offer.
man that's the dream


09-03-2015 11:37 AM #43 vitavee ()

I've posted a follow up thread with more details:

http://stmforum.com/forum/showthread...nel-Looks-Like


09-08-2015 04:59 PM #44 beastmode (Member)

How are these 2 offers going for you?

I had my "compliant" offer banned after 6 months. I had something similar, so I'm interested to know if yours are still live and kicking.


09-08-2015 05:48 PM #45 vitavee ()

I'm not running those 2 anymore. There have been several copycats after I showed them.


09-09-2015 07:39 AM #46 beastmode (Member)

How long did you run it for? Cos it took me like 6 months to get banned.


09-09-2015 07:41 AM #47 hlyghst ()

funnel flux is open now


09-09-2015 07:44 AM #48 vitavee ()

Just checked my reports, the "diabetes" campaign a little bit over 4 months. The homeschooling one, much less than this as I was recording myself and showing the data in real time. So it got copied almost immediately after I started it.


09-09-2015 07:44 AM #49 vitavee ()

@hlyghst yeah it's open


10-23-2019 02:42 PM #50 lukeexperience (Member)

These are two very good examples of running offers on FB with no risk of being banned!

Negative feedbacks can always happen, so it’s still advised to qualify the FB page to improve the quality score before starting the campaign (even if it’s not mandatory).

It seems that the main logic is:

  1. Find a niche you reckon it's profitable;
  2. Create something valuable for your potential customers;
  3. Create a FB campaign and offer them something interesting that doesn’t claim anything false, while avoiding aggressive approaches;
  4. Capture their emails;
  5. Then… offer them whatever you want! $$$$$


10-23-2019 09:19 PM #51 pacmancam (Member)

This post is almost from 5 years ago! Are people still doing this method? Does it still work today?


10-28-2019 06:12 AM #52 vortex (Senior Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by pacmancam View Post
This post is almost from 5 years ago! Are people still doing this method? Does it still work today?
I don't see why not!

Both are very "innocent" whitehat niches.



Amy


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