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Is there anyone around here making money with compliant stuff on FB? (28)

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Hi there,

i have read through a lot of recent threads and those mainly were about farming accounts, getting new CCs or how to cloak etc. So i was wondering if it is possible to make money on FB with completely compliant offers at all ?

Eric

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Hi Eric,

I do and have never had my account banned.

I usually send people to a presell page (or series of presell pages) with a squeeze on the last page.
I then promote on the thank you page and through the autoresponder series.

Sometimes I also send them directly to a squeeze page but I get better results with the presell pages.

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Thanks for your thoughts. I was just wondering if it is possible at all after reading so much about cloaking and non-compliant stuff here on STM.

So are you running your own products or offers from Affiliate Networks? just curious :-)

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Mainly affiliate offers.

You can send me a PM if you'd like to see an example.

EDIT: I've received many PM so I'll probably post a thread instead - it will be better

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Had a friend I met at a co-working space banking a few thousand daily profit off Teespring believe it or not. He never had an account banned, although there is certain guidelines even with Teespring such as not using names ect.

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@vitavee: thanks a lot, will do

@clubdrock: I was working as a freelance graphic designer and illustrator for the last 10 years, so maybe i should give Teespring a go finally. Thought about it a lot already... all those possibilities are mind blowing sometimes :-)

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Yes, of course.

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Please forget what I said above

I've received many PMs so I'll post a new thread instead with 2 examples for everyone - it will be better.

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I've just posted this thread with 2 examples:

http://stmforum.com/forum/showthread...f-Being-Banned

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Thanks, just looking through it :-)

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Facebook will ban your account whether you're running legitimate whitehat stuff or not -- it's all a matter of time. Just look around and most of the teespring people who were running "clean" have had their accounts disabled and then they act like the sky is falling down. Once your ads reach a certain threshold where enough people have flagged it as annoying, your account will get banned no matter what was running on it. I've had this discussion with plenty of Facebook reps, and they all say the same thing. If too many people flag your ads, the internal risk dept will shut down your account and there's nothing the sales team (FB sales reps) can do about it since they literally do not have the power to do anything but submit an inquiry into the risk department to re-look at the account. FB is quite serious about protecting the user experience. You could be running bad and annoying charity ads and if enough people are annoyed with your ads, your account WILL get shut down.

Learning how to adapt to this inevitability is the real skill of any Facebook marketer.

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Hmmm, I run my first campaign April 26, 2010 (yeah, I'm old!).

Same account ever since ...

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I have plenty of accounts that have never run much volume that have yet to be banned. My point was that if you are actually trying to run any kind of volume on FB, getting banned and getting new accounts is your biggest competitive advantage. I have one here that's older than yours but has only sparsely spent like $40k USD running "whitehat" stuff and has yet to be banned.



Does that mean that the statement "FB doesn't ban your account if it's running whitehat stuff" is true? No, it's just a matter of time -- and I know this because the other account I eventually switched to run this offer got banned after ~150k in spend with the same creatives despite the account being whitelisted personally by my rep back then.

There are millions of people advertising on Facebook. They have to rely on an algorithm to shut down uncompliant accounts, and the biggest marker of uncompliant stuff is when you piss people off with your ads. There is absolutely no account that's immune to this, they don't care if what you're running is "whitehat" or not. This is just my 2 cents based on information from 3 different employees at Facebook. What you choose to do with the information is completely up to you.

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Agree with Tim here. All Facebook cares is user experience.

If you are ruining it they will ban your account regardless of what you run.

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@timtetra That's when I shut up and take notes - thanks for sharing!

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Since when FB pay so much attention to user reports? I remember 3 years ago I ran campaigns spending 100k per month for bizop stuff and never got banned.

So, what's the solution, to spread the daily budget for the same campaign over multiple accounts?

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Does Facebook provide the information on how many people have reported your ad has annoying ?
Do you have time to cut the ad before it becomes a problem ?

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Hmm... This is super duper interesting!
I'm now buying 25% of a relative small geo on fb (over 50% of daily active). The frequency 2-4. And our relative score is pretty shitty. So people will sooner or later start mass reporting these as spammy.

Something to think about for sure... Anyone an idea how you can still prolong this when buying on mass?

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3 years ago on Facebook is like 30 years in the real world.

3 years ago they didn't even have mobile ads in their app and their stock was falling like a rock because they weren't able to monetize and optimize their eCPM higher than like $0.65 globally. In 2014 alone, Facebook's mobile platform rapidly evolved about 3 different iterations. To put that into perspective, that would be like 3 AM years -- because the same techniques that were able to get offers to work in January failed by late February, etc. For the rest of the traffic sources/industries in AM like PPV, adwords, or even Facebook's RHS ads on desktop -- it took at LEAST 6-8 months for a newly found technique of advertising to become irrelevant and obsolete.

The solution as I said is to get good at finding creative ways to get more accounts to run what you need to run. They've been sweeping lately harder than ever

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Age conversion calculator:

• 1 human years = 1 human years
• 1 dog years = 7 human years
• 1 Facebook years = 10 human years

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timtetra is 100% correct. Nothing you run on FB is safe. If your ads get complaints you will be taken down, it's that simple. You can be spending 5-6 figures a day on a complaint campaign and you will not even be able to talk to someone that has the power to keep your account on.

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That's kind of funny to see how nowadays Facebook has the same power than Google on people who work with them.

People try to get fake links to rank on Google and know they risk to be blacklisted, even if they do everything right (witch is impossible in a world with no established rules...).

Now people try to game Facebook with a lot of accounts trying to run campaigns knowing they will be ban, even if they do everything right (witch seems hard when no one respond and the rules changes every 2 weeks).

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There's one way to not get banned -- stop trying to do direct response marketing on Facebook. If you are Coke and you're promoting posts on your fanpage about some new contest you're running or increasing the visibility of Coca Cola, you are going to be fine. People will still see it's an ad, and people don't like ads, but it's so ineffective a message that it only mildly annoys them... and never annoys them enough that they would go out of their way to report the ad as being annoying.

As direct response marketers though, we have to ellicit a response out of people... and just like how Love and Hate are actually quite similar in that they're exaggerated responses to a specific stimulus... if your message is strong enough that people are responding in droves.... you better believe that for every idiot who believed your flog that the Rock used some male enhance product to get ripped and now they can get it too, 2-3 other people were so offended that you thought they were stupid enough to believe that... that they will go out of their way to report you.

My guess (although I admit this is unverified) is that if someone here were to run 300k worth of ads on an agency account to an ad that said "Eating food is one of the joys of life", you would probably not get banned.

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Are there any offers on CB that pays a little sooner than 30days? I have not worked with them in YEARS. Has the payouts changed yet?

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IMO, December 2013-Jan. 2014 sometime.

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Hi Vitavee,

can you tell me exactly how you do this by win a iPhone like
generate traffic by facebook
goes to optin lp
give more info page or win
than after received the email on the thank you page you set affiliate link to win a iPhone?

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The solution to reports. And its what I have been doing on the past 2 years. Is just check the record of "reports" the ad have and when ad ad accumulate 2-3 reports just pause the ad and create a new one. These will not warrantee the account live forever but it will make them live longer.

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How can I check the record of "reports"?

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