Well just finish my $1000 funds at Adcash. Need to relook at my campaigns and do some study.
It paused all the campaigns until I add more funds.
FYI, l also launched 1 campaign in India (app install) on CPM (before the paused).
Spent : $267.40
Revenue : $46.53
ROI : -82.60%
App installs payout is kinda small. Wonder how to make it breakeven?
Even though is still in red, but I am motivated as conversions are coming in
Need to work much harder.
How are your landers going? How many have you tested? Any stand out ones?
I tested around 5, and realised one works the best. I need to test more landers.
But I realised decisive is really hard to generate conversions. Spent $100 and generate nothing.
I noticed I have 2 campaigns for Malaysia and India. Surprisingly I am getting 900 clicks on a US offer. Assume is bot traffic right?
Didn't run anything this week. Burst all my budgets. Need to clear some next week and resume again.
Plus this week in hometown to see baby and internet is not so good too.
Lesson learned. Have to control your funds, can't simply overspent. This is especially painful when it comes to managed buy when you can't really control like self serve.
Again, never give up 

Thanks so much Ruby 
Have you made any further moves here?
Thanks for checking up
Feel motivated 
I launched 2 campaigns yesterday. It's pop traffic (no banners).
Here's my stats:-
Offer : iphone6 pin submits
Target : Malaysia
CPM : $3.10
Traffic : Popcash
Daily budget : $12/day
Spent : $12
Revenue : $2.50
ROI : -79.17%
Offer : uc browser
Target : india
CPM : $5.80
Traffic : Popcash
Daily budget : $15/day
Spent : $15
Revenue : $0.60
ROI : -96%
I want to master popcash as the self serve platform. This is something I can test test test as it's lower budget/day basis.
I have set kinda high CPM. It burned all so fast :P
I can't block any site ids. Realised I don't have enough data. Maybe it's true that $12 or $15/day not sufficient to test.
Based on my traffic AM, CPM works better with pin submits. Thus, I am stopping app installs on popcash. Have to drive more campaigns and think out of the box.
Stay tuned.
P.S. Just submit 1 campaign to adcash. Waiting for approval.
I wonder how do I set my
I just want to see how much profitable I am. Else I have to manually check the revenue at
Any tips?
http://feedback.Voluum.com/knowledge...54-cost-models This should be some help for you man.
Thanks bro. By the way, what determines a CPA rate? That's something I can't figure out :P
My adcash campaign goes live. More to test 
I am going to work hard on coming up my own questionnaire page like this one
http://stmforum.com/forum/showthread...r-Your-Landers
Latest update
Offer : iphone6 pin submits
Target : Malaysia
CPM : $3.10
Traffic : Popcash
Spent : $27
Revenue : $12.50
ROI : -53.70%
I am surprised actually. I just added $15 to this campaign, and I got 4 conversions. ROI gets better, actually my 1st time hitting that ROI (even it's negative).
Anyway much to be tested, can't be based on pure luck.
For adcash cpm, here's my latest stats (no conversions yet)
Offer : iphone6 pin submits
Target : Malaysia
CPM : $3.50
Traffic : Adcash
Spent : $12.51
Revenue : $0.00
ROI : -100%
Weird, normally adcash will convert.
Anyway my lander is still the same before. I need to think out of the box and be creative here. Cheers.
Fewer than 60 days to go! You can do it!
Thanks cmdeal 
Today i learned how to setup CPI campaign. But based on traffic manager, no conversion detected. Guess I am on Hidemyass VPN + android phone, conversion is not happening. Gonna launch tomorrow if all good. Can't wait to see how CPI works 
Added extra $10 to the popcash malaysia campaign. It seems it's late midnight, the traffic seems to be slow. No conversions so far. Hmm...
Cheers.
Latest stats:-
Offer : iphone6 pin submits
Target : Malaysia
CPM : $3.10
Traffic : Popcash
Spent : $47
Revenue : $15.00
ROI : -68.09%
Conversions seem slow.
Offer : iphone6 pin submits
Target : Malaysia
CPM : $3.50
Traffic : Adcash
Spent : $47.13
Revenue : $5.00
ROI : -89.39%
For adcash really weird, I already white listed the zones/carriers, etc, wonder how come the conversions so bad.
I have to work really hard to produce landers with angles. That's my limitation to be honest.
I wonder should I test more offers or optimize these existing offers first?
Looks like you’re making some progress with Popcash - keep optimising!
As for costs, I don’t generally use them on 

Here's my latest stats:-
Offer : UCBrowser App Install
Target : India
Payout : I am not sure whether is my payout to Adcash too low causing low traffic?
Traffic : Adcash
Visits : 244
Clicks : 33
Conversion : 0 (still 0)
Yesterday I have 228 visits, now it's just 244. Only 2 clicks per day.
Wonder is this because of low traffic or just my lander not good?
Offer : iphone6 pin submits
Target : Malaysia
CPM : $3.10
Traffic : Popcash
Spent : $93
Revenue : $17.50
ROI : -81.18%
Added $30, only 1 conversion. However I have added 3 new lander copies. No conversions so far. I have added another $20 and see how it goes.
Offer : iphone6 pin submits
Target : Malaysia
CPM : $3.50
Traffic : Adcash
Spent : $128.80
Revenue : $12.50
ROI : -90.30%
I have added the same 3 landers to adcash. No conversions so far.
Maybe I should test other offers than this one.
The 3 lander copies:-
- IQ test
- buy premium mobile content (guess this definitely won't work, but no harm testing)
- Win free iphone by answering 3 questions (see this a lot when spying)
My 3 lander copies, none of them convert. Ouch!
I have paused iphone 6 pin submits for Malaysia.
Launched few more campaigns at Adcash and Popcash.
I just finish $1000 at adcash, so already bought data at $2000. Ouch!
I realised for adcash, if want to run pins, you just can't direct link. It seems lander will do better here.
I am not really good in pins yet, and not so good in landers too. This one I have to improve.
I am controlling my funds and gonna spend more time on popcash.
At the same time, I am going to focus running more CPIs. Let's see whether I can break this game.
Here's my stats
Offer : Juicy Jam
Type : App Install
Target : US/UK/CA/AU (i guess i target too many countries)
CPM : $3.00 per country
Traffic : Adcash
Budget : $100/day (i thought it's like $100 for 4 countries, didn't know it's $100 per country)
Spent : $164.26
Revenue : $24.80
ROI : -84.90%
Note: Made mistake, I thought Android payout is at $2.00, realised it's at $1.20. Burnt!
Offer : DraftOps
Type : Pin
Target : US & Canada
CPM : $3.00
Traffic : Adcash
Budget : $100/day
Spent : $164.26
Revenue : $0.00
ROI : -100.00%
Note: I thought direct link can help, as their landers look good on mobile. However getting people to put credit card maybe turned people off.
Offer : RockyFroggy
Type : Pin
Target : France
CPM : $3.00
Traffic : Adcash
Budget : $100/day
Spent : $164.15
Revenue : $0.00
ROI : -100.00%
Note: Tested direct link, hmm didn't worked. Haha.
Offer : iPhone 6
Type : Pin
Target : Malaysia
CPM : $3.67
Traffic : Adcash
Budget : $100/day
Spent : $193.14
Revenue : $15.65
ROI : -91.9%
Note: Paused this. My 3 landers copies didn't work at all. Sad 
Offer : UC Browser
Type : App Install
Target : India
CPM : $3.50
Traffic : Adcash
Budget : $100/day
Spent : $167.83
Revenue : $22.11
ROI : -86.83%
Note: Have conversions, but can't keep up with the money spent. App installs with low payout aint' easy.
Offer : Whatsapp Wallpaper
Type : Pin
Target : Vietnam
CPM : $2.05
Traffic : Adcash
Budget : $100/day
Spent : $12.66
Revenue : $0.00
ROI : -100.00%
Note: Can't spend much money here, can't tell.
Offer : Whatsapp Wallpaper
Type : Pin
Target : Malaysia
CPM : $2.05
Traffic : Adcash
Budget : $100/day
Spent : $14.39
Revenue : $0.00
ROI : -100.00%
Note: Can't spend much money here, can't tell.
Offer : UCBrowser App Install
Target : India
Traffic : Adcash
Visits : 342
Clicks : 45
Conversion : 0 (still 0)
Note: CPI nothing for 1 week. LOL
Based on my rep, once I got 1 conversion, then traffic will flow better. Just how to hit that 1 conversion. I have 2 landers which do well on CPM at Adcash, but didn't do well at all for CPI.
Offer : UC Browser & Whatsapp
Type : App Install
Target : Malaysia
CPM : $2.00
Traffic : Popcash
Budget : $10/day
Spent : $6.50
Revenue : $5.40
ROI : -16.92%
Note: This caught me by suprised that Whatsapp wallpaper does convert :P Need to test here more and see whether can turn to posit
Offer : UC Browser
Type : App Install
Target : Mexico
CPM : $1.00
Traffic : Popcash
Budget : $10/day
Spent : $8.60
Revenue : $0.51
ROI : -94.07%
Note: Low conversions
Offer : UC Browser & Toko
Type : App Install
Target : Indonesia
CPM : $1.00
Traffic : Popcash
Budget : $10/day
Spent : $9.20
Revenue : $5.50
ROI : -40.20%
Note: Not bad for a start 
Offer : UC Browser & Konga
Type : App Install
Target : Nigeria
CPM : $2.00
Traffic : Popcash
Budget : $10/day
Spent : $0.40
Revenue : $0.00
ROI : -100.00%
Note: Hard to get traffic for Nigeria. Maybe too low CPM.
Offer : UC Browser & Link
Type : App Install
Target : Philippines
CPM : $1.00
Traffic : Popcash
Budget : $10/day
Spent : $7.50
Revenue : $0.26
ROI : -96.53%
Note: Not sure why philippines has low conversion.
Offer : UC Browser
Type : App Install
Target : Vietnam
CPM : $1.00
Traffic : Popcash
Budget : $10/day
Spent : $10.00
Revenue : $1.20
ROI : -88.00%
Note: Same to Vietname, as the payout is really low. Note, my CPM is at $1.00 which is lowest I can set.
Offer : UC Browser
Type : App Install
Target : Russia
CPM : $1.00
Traffic : Popcash
Budget : $10/day
Spent : $10.00
Revenue : $0.00
ROI : -100.00%
Note: Russian spent the fastest and nothing back.
Next, I want to improve on landers.
At the same time, I want to sign up and test out landers on Rackspace Cloud vs VPS.
Is beyond hosting VPS recommended to host mobile lander? I have tested liquidweb and wiredtree, noticed their support and control panel were not so friendly as beyond. But I have seen reviews here on beyond, not sure. Any tips?
What kind of landers will do well for app installs? Like UC Browser and games?
That's all updates for today. Cheers.
I realised direct link beats my landers. This doesn't look right.
Now reading this
http://stmforum.com/forum/showthread...Angle-Revealed
I have launched over 25 campaigns. I realised direct link can convert, but overall negative. Thus, I am scraping the idea to do direct linking. Instead I will fine tune all the existing ones with landers.
Nice work on gathering all the data.
Did you do some spying before launching to get a benchmark of what works?
Nice, I think it's a good idea to focus in on getting some good landers going. Direct linking can give you a good idea of whether an offer works but landers are really how you'll sell it and boost your ROIs.
noted and thanks.
i will focus on landers + spying more.
After giving in some considerations and thanks to Ten's feedback as well, I believe I need to change the way I run my campaigns.
Instead I will stay focus on 2 app installs offers. Stay tuned, I will make my follow along more interesting. After all I am here to learn 
Cheers.
Hi Eric, are you doing any spying and seeing what others are doing to get their campaigns profitable?
yes, i am using mobile ad scout. and i am trying to get my hands dirty on manual spying.
If you're only using two offers I would also suggest you get each offer from a couple of networks - for one reason or another sometimes the exact same offer converts better on one network than the other.
You're right about the high payout = high budget. Personally I would stick to the low payout offers for now as you're going to have to spend a hell of a lot more to get worthwhile data for such high payout offers.
Also, the 1 euro sign up thing is bound to make things harder for you (which I'm guessing is why it's balanced with a high payout).
I like the heat-map exploration you're doing. But in saying that, I personally wouldn't focus my energies there (and I never have). It's great for those insights like you're saying about the yes/no buttons, but maybe this is something for more in-depth optimisation later down the track.
If I was you I'd first focus on the performance of landers - spend that extra time testing heaps more landers. Once you've tested a looooooad of landers, you're more likely to come out with a killer one, which you can then further optimise (with such tools as your heat-mapping).
That would be the way I would approach this at least anyway 

Those landers are all pretty busy - there's a lot going on and not much whitespace.
Try reducing the amount of stuff on the page a bit - you want your viewer's eye to be dragged to exactly where it needs to go!
On the "all click no" lander, your headline seems to be "Discover Our Last Winners" (I think - my French is pretty rusty) - I don't really see why that would appeal to most of your audience. What's the sales appeal there?
I'd also definitely recommend using a lower-payout offer.
Good work on getting all this stuff tested, and keep it up!

You are absolutely correct in that it's good to convince your targets that other people are already having success winning phones - adding credibility to your offer.
However, as Caurmen said - this isn't what you want to be using to initially excite your audience.
Think of this as an example. Two ads come up on your screen...
Ad1: "Click here to see a screenshot of $1,000 in someone's bank account!"
Ad2: "Click here to add $1,000 to your bank account!"
Which do you click? You're selfish right? You don't really care about someone else's $1,000. Screw them and their cash. Tell me I won $1,000 instead.
Stand back and think about what a user will think about your page.
Past winners are great however in adding credibility that yes, the user may have actually won something real! A lot of landers do this with a comment section at the bottom of the page with Sally saying how she can't believe she actually won an iPhone from this offer etc.
Great that you've found a way to spy on your competition - take note of common themes and offers you see here and try figure out why they're good.
Most of the sweepstake offers I've done well with are probably around $2 payouts, although it varies.
I realized when I first started out that I really wasn't giving enough spend or duration to my initial campaigns. I was basically afraid of losing money. But that's really all I accomplished because my data was useless. No decisions that could be made from the info I generated. So good idea sticking with a few offers. Even if you don't make money, you'll at least be able to learn something. And then you can continually optimize and integrate your learning into future campaigns.
Thanks guys
I will improvise my landers for sure as well as focus on 2 offers.
Since I am from Malaysia, I want to focus on Malaysia offers. If I can't do well in Malaysia, I wonder how could I succeed in overseas :P Anyway I am also lack of budget to test too many offers :P
Thus I am aiming 2 offers
- win iphone
- whatsapp wallpaper
I launched 1 campaign yesterday at popcash
Offer : iphone6 pin submits
Target : Malaysia
CPM : $2.00
Traffic : Popcash
Daily budget : $7.50/day
Spent : $7.50
Revenue : $2.63
ROI : -64.93%
Lander 1 - 1 conversion
Lander 2 - 0 conversion
Actually my bad, I actually add crazyegg (2 months free trial, after all nothing to lose as it's free for 2 months). I see most people are not clicking on my buttons/links on Lander 1. As for Lander 2, which I imitate facebook style, no clicks too. I have to improvise my CTA buttons.
I have to pause the above campaign. Once I fixed the above landers (plus the suggestion from Ruby as lander 3), I will resume at popcash and launch at popads 
Cheers.
If you have access to it look for the offer Mobile Academy in Malaysia with the carrier Celcom. It converted really well but I had very little traffic for it...50%-75% ROI direct linking with banner traffic and stock creatives...If you can spend any kind of decent money on that one carrier it's definitely worth a look.
Edit: Matomy has both ios and android versions.
Hey is this follow along still active?
Still trucking along Eric???