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03-05-2015 10:32 AM #1 sharif (Member)

Hi reama92 is there any follow along campaigns that are not related to dating/adult?


03-05-2015 10:35 AM #2 caurmen (Administrator)

Have you gotten in touch with Exoclick and asked what's up? Chances are high that you're in some sort of approval process.

Incidentally, I'd stay far, far away from the big Exo placements whilst you're still learning. Your budget will be eaten in seconds on XHamster, for example, and you'll be competing against super-affiliates working on terms you can't possibly match.


03-05-2015 09:41 PM #3 reama92 (Member)

Hi Sharif, yes if you go in the traffic sources section and you select one of them other than adult you will be able those other follow along campaigns.


03-05-2015 09:43 PM #4 reama92 (Member)

Thank you Caurmen, I'm waiting for their response and I'll definitely stay away from the big Exo placemens thanks for the tip!


03-11-2015 03:35 PM #5 casual_dating_offers (Member)

Hey reama92! It's Alex from Together here. First of all, glad you chose to start your journey with our offers, thanks While I won't be able to share too many insights about Exo (there are plenty of experienced media buyers like caurmen who can share useful tips with you) I can def tell you that ESP offer isn't the best one and in fact we don't recommend affiliates to run these offers right now. So please don't waste your money on non-performing offers. For Tier-2 countries with less competition I could mention SE, NO, CZ, DK, FI, IT, BRA among the best converting ones atm. Are you in touch with any of our AMs? Can you ask them for guidance? If you need one please hit me up (see the signature for my contact details).


03-13-2015 02:41 PM #6 matuloo (Legendary Moderator)

Hello reama92

First let me wish you all the best in your AM journey.

And now, let me give you some pointers and advice for the starters :

1. Exoclick - definitely get in touch with exo support to find out whats going on, they are getting a bit too strict with new advertisers lately, so you might need to get through some approval process. Just dont create another new account, talk to them and see whats going on. Once you have it sorted out, proceed with caution with them, exoclick is the largest adult ad network, so they can really spend your budget in a few minutes. Always use daily caps for your campaigns, start with 1-2 impressions per day. Also use daily spend limits, thou they will shoot through it if you target a large demographics. Staying away from their large sites is a valid advice, when you are targeting large GEOs like USA for example, if you are going after small countries like Austria for example, you might actually need to go to the large sites tho, otherwise you wont get much traffic. Stay away from their RON traffic for now.

2. Togethernetworks - its a legit advertiser with good offers and they are also present here as you can see, so they are certainly a good choice. Make sure to get ahold of someone over there so they can point you to the best working offers. As a new affiliate thou, you might want to join a couple of affiliate networks like adsimilis, advidi, clickdealer ... this way you will get access to more offers from one place, more stuff to test etc ... these network also make your life easier in terms of cashflow, tho its gonna cost you some % of you revenue, as they are simply a middleman and need to make money too.

3. Banners / Creatives - using the materials provided by advertisers can surely work sometimes, but usually it wont. You need to make your own creatives or at least modify the provided ones somehow. Im not sure whether you have your own landing pages prepared, its kinda mandatory to have when pushing adult dating. Direct linked offers can work too, but they usually wont

Report back when you have your first campaign running, Im sure we can help you further

All the best.


03-14-2015 04:51 AM #7 reama92 (Member)

never mind for the BH setup, I've talked with them it's up and running. Now it's a matter of configuring a proper tracking.
I've read that Voluum is one of the best tracking software out there. Should I go with them?


03-15-2015 07:53 PM #8 iwarrior (Member)

Go for Voluum, is pretty much what everyone is using right now and they have a free version which will be enough for you at this moment.


03-23-2015 03:18 PM #9 iMonetizeIt (Senior Member)

Quote Originally Posted by reama92 View Post

Also since TogetherNetworks are using their own tracking platform I'm not sure how to set up the tracking part of my campaigns.
If you use your own tracker Together can set up your pixel on their end so that you get all the stats on your side.


03-29-2015 06:07 AM #10 darsdars (AMC Alumnus)

Hey dude,

There's two things here that stand out to me.

1. The LP CTR - ~14-17%. My question is, why is it that 85% of people who click on my banner aren't interested? Of course this depends on your placement - are you targetting in-video ads where accidental clicks are plenty? If so, then is it worth the 0.181 CPM?
If not, then I'd be asking why is it that these people are happy to click on my banner, but upon seeing my landing page they go NOOOOPE.

2. The need to look at the drilldown reports of each banner. CTR% is important but moreso the LP CTR% and CR% that entails each banner. To me, it gives me an indication as to whether or not my banner is relevant to my landing page and offer. I can then aim to capture this "relevance factor" and put it into my subsequent creatives (banner and landing page).

Hope you can draw some value out of what I see - Keep it up!


03-29-2015 09:41 AM #11 vorlian (Member)

I think you need to make some new banners that are new not copied from someone , ctr is not so low but LP ctr is awlful , im getting 40-50% CTR On my LP . Did you made those banners on your own or you just steal them ? :P


03-29-2015 12:22 PM #12 reama92 (Member)

@darsdars, I've been asking myself the same question about the LPs but didn't focus too much on that, cause I've read some other follow along campaigns and case studies and some replies were indicating that the CVs for an lp was the the thing focus rather than the lp ctr. I'm running my ads on xhamster not in video next to vid 315x300

@vorlian, I'll be testing other LPs for sure. I made the Tinder ones myself


03-29-2015 01:24 PM #13 johnnyclean (Member)

I'm not sure if you've already applied this, but: http://stmforum.com/forum/showthread...ight=photoshop following these steps and applying them to your banners can really help your banner CTR.

I added borders (make the border color the main color of the site you're targeting) and upped the saturation and hue, and it actually improved my CTR by about ~20%. Not bad for just a few minutes work in photoshop!


03-30-2015 04:35 AM #14 reama92 (Member)

@johnnyclean takes for the tip, i implemented it and got ~5% more clicks and better conversions. I'm very pleased with the overwhelming support here at STM even among newbies. I hope I'll be able to help with some tip or anything in return very soon.


The LPs CTR are still awful
I added two new LPs CTR was great for the first 60min then it went south, real bad. Although I think the CR is not that bad

today I was running four LPs CTR was at 15.10% and the CR at 5.66%

Day5
Visits: 1755
Clicks: 265
CTR: 15.10%
Conversions: 15
Revenue: $63.75
Spent: $154.91
ROI: -41%

Today I made a rookie mistake... no surprise... I increased my CPM bids to see if I could get more clicks... shit went crazy spent $46.14 in one hour for only 2 CVs for $8.50... Like the old saying No PAIN no GAIN hahaha

Let's see what tomorrow brings.


03-30-2015 07:30 AM #15 vorlian (Member)

Snice you are using ripped LPs try to make some tweaks to them... change colors, text size, some images if there is .Last night i hit my first 200$ from adult dating been running this for more then month i test like 28 LPs.There is post about Lander pages made by Finch , i think it will help you alot try to find it.
I saw that your banners are Gif? What placements you using? get some none animate, use some different colors from white?


03-30-2015 10:57 AM #16 reama92 (Member)

@vorlian congrats wish you hit the double today!!
I actually started to make my own LPs. I made the 2 LPs that i was talking about yesterday. I've added a timer, 3 questions one milf pic and I even added underneath the +25 question a line that says that "women on this doesn't want to deal with men younger than 25 , because of bad past experiences". I know it's nothing new but I know it is important to have them and the other two questions are about the STDs and using a condom +the rules to not publicize and all that...

I'll be testing more n more, so far I've tested 8 LPs


03-30-2015 05:10 PM #17 vorlian (Member)

Keep changing images on the your LP till you find the one that is killing, on my LP i got video with very hotchick and LP is generating Profit but still needs optimization , making 30-40$ profit a day so i need to tweak it little and i think i can scale it up ..


04-05-2015 02:27 AM #18 reama92 (Member)

Sorry for the late update again...

Day 6
Visits: 350
Clicks: 48
LPs CTR: 13.71%
Conversions: 1
Revenue: $4.25
Spent: $25.50
ROI: -83%

Day 7
Visits: 560
Clicks: 95
LPs CTR: 16.96%
Conversions: 5
Revenue: $21.25
Spent: $45.21
ROI: -53%

Exoclick lost the 315x300 NTVA placement to TrafficJunky, maybe a good thing. I don't know probably it was time to kill that campaign and start a new one
Thou, I now see why some people say Exoclick is a hit or miss. Sometimes during the day I'll be getting good CTR and good conversions and then cut dead banners, keep the one that converts and boom shit goes south. Maybe it's just how AM goes.

But I know people are making with that traffic source so I'll make sure to master it and don't bitch out and run to another traffic source until I see green numbers

so that being I started a new campaign this time I went with another Geo: Switzerland
For the first two days I ran two offers but the lowest payout one converted better at $2.69

Day1
Visits: 101
Clicks: 43
LPs CTR: 42.57%
Conversions: 1
Revenue: $7.00
Spent: $7.42
ROI: -6%

Day2
Visits: 244
Clicks: 100
LPs CTR: 40.98%
Conversions: 3
Revenue: $12.38
Spent: $21.56
ROI: -43%

Day3
Visits: 238
Clicks: 94
LPs CTR: 39.50%
Conversions: 7
Revenue: $18.83
Spent: $20.43
ROI: -8%

I was in the green for most part of the day from midnight to 9:00 AM I hit $18.83 of revenue after spending $11.64 but then didn't any conversion and now it is 10PM Eastern Time
Now looking back since day 1 of this campaign only 2 conversions was made after 12PM Eastern Time which is 6 PM over there. I don't know if it is a trend over there for men to watch porn while everybody else is sleeping or simply top affiliates outbidding me
it probably is the the latter LOL since on F5media I saw that the offer im currently running was number 1 in the afternoon

Oh well, I'll make sure to maximize as much profit that I can during the early hours
split-test banners and LPs
at least this offer converts very well. We shall see from now

1 question for bidding thou: Is there any techniques I should learn other than bidding higher and see if I can get more traffic and more conversions ?


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