Moving on to 250$/day profit in adult niche in next 3 month. (13)
Moving on to 250$/day profit in adult niche in next 3 month.
Hi Everybody,
I already work in adult media buying near half year. Right now my profit near 50-100$ per day. I plan to reach more then 250$ per day before June. In June i will go to long trip in Asia. During/after trip I plan to start work in mobile media buying. Actually before I planed to start quickly in adult and move to mobile. But after I gain some experience in adult. I decide to focus on it first and after move to other vertical.
In this thread I'll shared my experience and hope to get some feedback.
Traffic Sources:
ExoClick
AdXpansion
TrafficJunky
Star-Advertising
That's all now but i plan to start using others too.
Offers
Right now i work in 4 GEOs. Main profit i get from one offer for 2 GEO. I get bumped payouts one time. And for more bump AM ask me to increase quality of leeds.
For 2 other GEOs i have few campaign on ExoClick on RON traffic. I'm looking for good sources. It's already have positive ROI. But i need to optimize and scale it.
So i plan to report here statistic for different GEOs because in some GEO i have different offers. I'll use numbers for them:
1. My main offer here.
2. Same offer as in first GEO. But Country smaller and payouts bigger.
3. In this Geo i try Offers in web and wap. And get traffic from ExoClick and Star-Advertising.
4. Just started GEO only web offer in test. Need to try more creatives here.
At this forum I found really good ideas, some of them I used in this week. And as my main problem right now is quality so I done this (Thanks to Finch for awesome post on this topic ):
1. Start to send younger traffic to other offer.
2. Remake my creatives and stop to use - "Free", "No CC" and etc. Before i used mostly ripped banners. Right now my GF make bunch of banners with different angles. Some of them show better results then ripped. And it without optimization.
3. Start to use same offer in different networks.
4. Synchronize time in tracker (
Plan for next week:
1. Optimize creatives for GEO 1 and 2.
2. Rip some creatives and make my own for GEO 3 and 4.
3. Make separate Campaign in ExoClick for GEO 3 for wap and web.
4. Try to resolve some tracking issues. With postback url to traffic sources.
5. Try to store demographic data from LP. Something like this.
6. Restart my campaign for GEO 2 as i pause all campaign in GEO 1 and 2, before i make new creatives for test.
I'll post my statistic every week because my main offer is DOI. So pixel fired with delay sometime. So better to wait day or two before post it.
Hey good luck, Waldemar.
One thing which I find confusing is why you would want to target younger visitors as opposed to mature visitors. I currently aim for 35+ and yield a solid lead quality with such visitors according to my AM. Am I missing something?
Originally Posted by waldemar
No, i just send +25 visitors to main profitable offer. And younger to other with smaller payout. So i hope it's increase quality a little bit in my main offer.
I try to target more older visitors with mature women on banners and text like "+ 30" or some angle about wife.
So here my stat for last week.
GEO 1
ExoClick:
Cost: $451.93
Revenue: $389.8
Profit: -$62.13
ROI: -13.7% ROI
In ExoClick I tested my all new creatives and tried CPM campaign in some sites. Some of banners show good result on start some not. So I optimize all creatives and I give them 2 more days at this week, after I'll stop bad creatives. And I hope come back to positive ROI.
I also stopped CPM for while because on those sites where i try. CPC looks better.
AdXpansion:
Cost: $120.7
Revenue: $288
Profit: $167.30
ROI: 138.6% ROI
In AdXpansion I used best creatives based on Exo test. And most click comes to best converted banner. So ROI on new banners 2x-3x better than on old one.
TrafficJunky:
Cost: $145.99
Revenue: $78
Profit: -$67.99
ROI: -46.6% ROI
I'm not so experienced in TrafficJunky and tried not all my new banners. Because mostly I need to remake it for them. Make my gif more slowly. But on this campaign I found one good source. So I create separate campaign for this.
So i'll remake my banners and try again later.
From redirect to other offer of -24 visitors i get $21.60. But to bad I don't track them right now.
GEO 2
AdXpansion:
Cost: $13.65
Revenue: $43.25
Profit: $29.6
ROI: 216.8% ROI
I just start it before end of week. So not so much data. But at this week I'll scale it to other sources.
GEO 3
ExoClick:
Cost: $191.37
Revenue: $189.75
Profit: -$1.62
ROI: -0.8% ROI
So here I need to optimize my campaign and separate my big campaign to wap and web campaigns. For few week i collect good data and have some ideas to try.
Star Advertising:
Cost: $30.83
Revenue: $46.4
Profit: $15.57
ROI: 50.5% ROI
GEO 4
ExoClick:
Cost: $98.65
Revenue: $148.35
Profit: $49.7
ROI: 50.4% ROI
First green week for this geo. Want to try bunch of new creatives in this week at this geo.
Stats by networks:
ExoClick:
Cost: $776.75
Revenue: $758.90
Profit: -$17.85
ROI: -2.3% ROI
TrafficJunky:
Cost: $145.99
Revenue: $78
Profit: -$67.99
ROI: -46.6% ROI
AdXpansion:
Cost: $134.35
Revenue: $331.25
Profit: $196.9
ROI: 146.6% ROI
Star Advertising:
Cost: $30.83
Revenue: $46.4
Profit: $15.57
ROI: 50.5% ROI
Profit at this week: 148.23$
Not so much, but it's because of testing. Hope this week would be better after I'll choose best creatives. And I really hope that i can increase quality of leads.
Good work man, Im pretty suprised to see you had such good results with adxpansion, I stopped using that network after a series of tests with horrible results.
Looking good! You're clearly testing widely enough - nice mix of green and red there.
Great to see a Follow-Along targeting multiple traffic sources, too!
Wow yeah man thats great update there,
praying you're not sending Adxpansion RON to that campaign, it leads to quality kicks 90% of the time I've found.
Also, Star Advertising, message your rep they may have some placements for you behind the scenes
Originally Posted by matuloo
After analyse of my new creatives. I decide to change my tactics. Before i use same creatives on big bunch of sites in white list. But it's looks like not so productive. Because some creative work at one site and other at other site.
As in my GEO have enough traffic. I decide to split campaigns for big sites.
And maybe later when i'll need to increase quantity i would use white lists (of smaller sites) again.
Actually I heard many time from big affiliates. That you can't just copy winner campaign to different traffic source. But need to optimize different traffic sources.
It's looks like big sites works better as I planned. Before I afraid of higher price in premium sites, but with bigger price my offers still green or so. And it's more easy to optimize it then bunch of small sites.
But with some sites, i can't get traffic even after I set highest bid at CPM. I get traffic only in few hours in day. After i check this site with VPN. And found that at this spot banner link looks like this:
http://banners.pickupcloud.com/track....exoclick.com/.................
So it's looks like somebody buy flat rate right?
It's not problem now I just start to bid at NTV B instead NTV A. But just interesting because I want to try later direct buying or flat rate at exoclick.
Come to late at this week. So here my statistic for last week (2-8 march). For this week I'll post a little bit later.
I asked my AM about quality and possibility pay bump. He said it's possible and quality ok, but i need to increase quantity. So last week and this week I focused at scaling GEO 1. Mainly on ExoClick. At TrafficJunky i was near break-in but need to work on banner because most of my winning banners are animated but i need to make static for them. So before scaling traffic there I need to test more new banners.
GEO 1
ExoClick:
Cost: $1176.54
Revenue: $969
Profit: -$207.54
ROI: -17.6% ROI
I started to work with premium sites and I like it. Not all premium sites work good. And as I create many different campaigns. I can optimize different funnels for them. Because some creatives work good at one site and don't work at other.
And at premium spots work with CPM more easy than I try before at same selected sites from RON.
I loose 200$ but I learned a lot and get a lot of data for analyze and optimize.
AdXpansion:
Cost: $186.35
Revenue: $347.80
Profit: $161.45
ROI: 86.6% ROI
TrafficJunky:
Cost: $132.44
Revenue: $120
Profit: -$12.44
ROI: -9.4% ROI
Near green but i decide to stop until I make some new banners.
From redirect to other offer of -24 visitors i get $55.20.
GEO 2
AdXpansion:
Cost: $83.5
Revenue: $218
Profit: $134.5
ROI: 161.1% ROI
Profit at this week: 131.17$
I stopped GEO 3 and 4 for a while.
So here statistic for last week. I continue to test a lot of new spot at Exo, some of them work and some not.
GEO 1
ExoClick:
Cost: $3231.95
Revenue: $2338.9
Profit: -$893.05
ROI: -27.6% ROI
I continue to testing a lot of new spot at Exo, some of them work and some not. I found a lot ways to scaling my offer. At this week i paused red campaign, so for next week it's must be green. But with much lower volume.
And i'm not sure but it's looks like some of my creatives burn out at few spots.
AdXpansion:
Cost: $86.95
Revenue: $131.3
Profit: $44.35
ROI: 51.00% ROI
TrafficHunt:
Cost: $63.55
Revenue: $30
Profit: -$33.55
ROI: -52.8% ROI
Just start to work with this network. Some of creatives shows not bad conversion. but I want to collect more data, before turn off bad one.
From redirect to other offer of -24 visitors i get $145.30.
GEO 2
AdXpansion:
Cost: $79.75
Revenue: $234
Profit: $154.25
ROI: 193.4% ROI
Profit at this week: -617.75$
I increased quantity at GEO 1 and switch all traffic to one network. And ask my AM about pay bump but his not online from Monday it's sucks.
I plan to do at this week:
1. Slow down with testing new spots and optimize winners.
2. Make more creatives, my offer is for WEB but accepting mobile to and some landings optimized for mobiles. I testing it at mobile traffic and it's work, but i need to create more LPs for mobile. And also i need to create some banners (static) specially for trafficjunky.
3. Tracking answers for questions at LPs. (I plan to do it at first week of follow-along topic)
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Statistic for last week.
GEO 1
ExoClick:
Cost: $1970.35
Revenue: $1873.5
Profit: -$96.85
ROI: -4.9% ROI
Near break-in. But still red. I turned off most of bad campaign.
AdXpansion:
Cost: $116.1
Revenue: $257.7
Profit: $141.60
ROI: 122.00% ROI
TrafficHunt:
Cost: $112.13
Revenue: $90
Profit: -$22.13
ROI: -19.7% ROI
Already better.
From redirect to other offer of -24 visitors i get $92.30.
GEO 2
AdXpansion:
Cost: $64.8
Revenue: $161.25
Profit: $96.45
ROI: 148.8% ROI
Profit at this week: 211.37$
Not so much, but i comeback to green. This week must be much better, because more data and better optimization.
Still get no answer about pay bump of GEO 1. But i get pay bump for GEO 2. So at this week i restarted campaign for GEO 2 at Exo.
As GEO 2 much more smaller payout higher so I plan to try again TrafficJunky next week. I think it's must be easier.
What i done at this week:
1. I start to noting all changes at every campaign. Before I noted only major changes. It's really help because right now I have a lot of campaign so it's hard to remember everything.
2. Testing new creatives.
3. Found some coder who can help me with javascript and php.
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