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FB Account Sending limit. (35)

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Hi,

I have a doubt regarding daily spend limit.
People selling 500 USD daily spend limit account for 1000 USD to 2000 USD as so called Agency accounts on different forums.

I used and lost many personal accounts while doing FB ads, I manage all my accounts using Adespresso and adstage
In Adespresso many of my accounts show 1500 daily spend limit, yes some show 250 USD.
I spend 1500 USD in FB ads in last 20 days on the same account it was showing 1500 limit before loosing it yesterday.
I was running many ads with total daily spend budget 500 - 600 USD, but due to reach limit and slow delivery of ads account never exceeded 100 -150 USD daily spend. Although yesterday both account suddenly god banned due to unusual activity.

So my doubt is what is the difference between Agency accounts (with 1500 limit) and normal accounts (also showing 1500 limit).
The second account in the given picture with 5/5000 ads running, I bought it for less than 7 USD (PVA)and daily spend limit of that account is 1500.
So the people who are selling accounts are taking advantage of people ignorance and fooling them, or really agency accounts are special.



Thanks

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I am not quite sure what exactly your question is, but in any case, buying Facebook accounts is a high risk activity with a lot of scammers. That is why selling Facebook accounts is prohibited on STM.

As for what is the spend limit of agency accounts, it definitely is not $1500. If you run compliant activities with large clients then your account credit limit can be more than 100 times that amount. Just as a benchmark, our account limit on Facebook is ~$500 K but we reach about 10 percent of the population in some very large geographies.

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My question was 1500 Daily spend limit showing for my personal FB account And people also selling so called FB Agency account with 1500 or more daily spend limit.
SO what is the difference between these 2, I mean why should I buy Agency account If I can spend upto 1500 in personal or Agency accounts come with benefits othar than spending limit.

So If I spend high amount like 500-1000 USD/Daily using my personal account, is there are more chances of ban than agency account because sole purpose of agency account is being used for advertisement purpose.

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These are different types of accounts. They are 'marketer' or 'agency' accounts and are useful if you wish to run purely legit campaigns. However, please bear in mind regardless of your spend 'limit', Facebook has hundreds of algorithms in place to stop you spending without you even knowing. If you are risky, they don't like your ads, you're new, a new IP, you've created too many ads, the budget has increase too much, these can all stop you spending to your limit.

Don't buy an agency account, always create personals. If it dies, then recreate with another ID and a 'replaced' bank card from your bank after you 'lose' it.

When I create ad accounts (made a fair few XX amount), I use a new ID, a new bank card, new IP and clear cache. I run simple and purely whitehat advertisements for the first 2-3 days. I always do this with my currency set to anything OTHER than USD. As these accounts don't have incremental budget increases. They do have a secret budget / limit though. Which is why I run whitehat campaigns for the first two-three days and make sure I spend atleast $50 a day (It doesn't really let you spend more than $50 a day). After these two-three days receive full payment and no declined rejection from your card, the budget suddenly allows you to spend between $500-$1000 a day (If your audience allows you to and your ads are not limited secretly by Facebook).

Info: This is from my personal experience and may not reflect all accounts or other users experiences.

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Do u change billing address everytime ?
And for IP are u using proxies ?

Thanks

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Using a type of VPS that is based off GEO so it's run through my computer and always selects a local IP. This is to avoid any flags if any.

Billing address, I never submit a correct address as it will just blacklist your billing address. I suggest you select a PO BOX or a business address if you want to remain whitehat.

I have a total of 4 savings accounts with my bank, each have a VISA DEBIT card attached. I advise them that I lose them as my younger brothers use them and they take them to school.

No red flags there.

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Thanks for valuable advice.

1) lets say address xyz is attached to ur bank account (then automatically to ur cards also, lets say C1). Then u used card C1 for advertising purpose and after loosing the account u requested for new card C2 (again attached to address xyz), now u can not give wrong address to bank account. So now C2 is attached to banned address. Correct me If I am wrong, are u changing address every time after loosing account, in case yes my doubt is how ur giving wrong address.

2) Also In case of using business address after loosing account it will also be banned so how are u using / planning to use same business address every-time.

3) Now this may be wrong information, but I see people saying ur card zipcode and fb login location zipcode should match. Whats ur take on this piece of information, because If this true then I am bound to use my current address only. And after getting that address banned I am left with no choice.

Please recommend the VPS service if possible.

Thanks

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Hehehe Vikram. When a credit card transaction in processed they do not match your banking address to your address entered on purchase. That information is private. Secondly, the IP does not have to match the post code as this isn't checked either. You could be browsing at a friends house, or mobile.

I use an Aussie VPS so you couldn't use it. There's a few out there that can suit. I use the VPS is solely an IP address but use the same machine, which is your own. It's more like a proxy of sorts.

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Thanks Man, u know ur stuff.
I got ur point but one clarification I am looking for is , When u say "Billing address, I never submit a correct ...." here what u are referring submit to. Is it giving address to bank, Facebook profile address , or anything else because I see only 2 places where address comes in picture, ur fb profile address and ur (payment system attached to fb) bank address.
What is ur experience these all above steps helped u to avoid bans short term or long term basis.

I hope u dont mind me putting too many queries. I just started with FB ads last month only made some profit , but in last 30 days lost 6 accounts. (Unusual activity)
I really do not know why it happened :-(

Thanks

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They tend to flag most accounts for unusual activity so you'll have to deal with that and keep sending ID's.

The address part can be beaten by sending ID that's a passport or gov ID without address attached.

Don't put a real address in your Facebook Account or Billing Information for Facebook. Just put somewhere similar/close/related to VPS

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What's the deal anyway these days, you guys just send in fake ID's to combat Facebook's bullshit roadblocks?

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How does the CC not decline with a different address used for billing then the CC actual address?

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I am pretty sure this is not correct ....

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only true perhaps with EU cards that are non-avs..
still curious to the ID's though

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I guess?


Totally depends on what PeakPerformance has mentioned.

Yes exactly. Sorry I didn't mention that my cards don't support AVS.

Non USA, Canada and United Kingdom VISA cards.

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Check PM for second question

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Hi tomcpalead ,

If u don't mind asking how are u getting new Id every time.
And when u create account in currency different than USD can we us USA based CC for that. I mean can I use Amex USA CC for account with default currency in Australian Dollar.

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Can't say.

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Yes that's fine

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So all strategy we discussed above is only viable when we use either Non USA, Canada and United Kingdom VISA cards or Non avs European Credit card, please correct me if I am wrong. I have CC with Amex, Discover, CapitolOne, Citi Bank..all US based, do I going to have issues with my address faking thing.

Also how to setup..either many IP(account) on same VPS or 1 VPS for each IP(account) alone. ?

In case anybody faced this situation earlier...I'll be more than happy to get ur thoughts on this. When ur timezone (lets say chicago) and currency (lets say Indian Rupee) is not from same country, whether it can be a cause to trigger manual review or ban. ?

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Yep, you're going to have a problem - all USA cards are avs as far as I know. Haven't done Facebook Ads for a good few months now but didn't they just ask for the zip code on the payment processing page? If that's the case still and you want to be extra careful just create your fb accounts with the proxies location matching the zipcode of your cards. Then again from what I remember, I could use USA accounts with EU cards and vice versa without problems so as long as they're asking for zipcode only you should be fine with USA cards..Facebook changes FAST though, so this might not be the case anymore.. If they request full address then yea, you need non-avs cards.

Didn't have problems with different currencies myself, but then again 1) facebook changes and 2) I don't think it's so much a matter of do x and get y result but more like the fraudscore% system cc processors use. You might have the currency thing right but due to a host of other problems = account is doomed. You might have the currency thing wrong but if the rest seems natural = you're good to go.

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Rhetorical question much? Fake ID's.. not sure though how well they react to "scanned" psd's. Probably best if you're holding the ID in front of the PC screen with your account on the background. Much more time consuming to do tho..
+from my tests they only unlocked about 40-50% of the accounts after sending in ID's. Tom, can you comment on this?

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Now it's just Zipcode they ask while adding payment method.
What u suggest Many( 1 account/1 IP) on 1 VPS or ( 1 account/1 IP)/1 VPS.

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Then again, I reckon that by now they're blocking accounts if card country doesn't match your accounts/proxies location. Cause even if your card is nonavs - they can still identify the country+card+bank by the 1st 6 digits of the card. (checkout bank identification numbers databases) I think my last accounts ran into this issue when I did fb few months back...

I don't see why you can't run multiple accts on 1 vps as long as your private+public ip + dns match up..

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Fake ID's? This is going to end well...

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lol.

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Well I wouldn't like to say 'fake' ID's. As they are not FAKE in any way, as I have not created any sort of physical replication, nor am I trying to imitate a real person. They are purely pictures for educational purposes which Facebook happens to accept as identification for my account which is not a real person and merely a fictional character that my split personality disorder requires me to create.

If you use the right type of 'picture' they accept it 90%+ of the time.

There's quite a few non-avs cards available in America. Payoneer for one.

You could also try creating an account in another country and depositing into it via Paypal

I only use the VPS/Priv Proxy to avoid the flag on new accounts, nothing to do with location.

As I've mentioned above.

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I like your way with words. Didn't know about Payoneer being nonavs, cool.

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Thanks Tom! You are sharing real great stuff here.

I have a few questions too as I'm starting to grow my very own Ads accounts now.

1) How much daily "activity" do I need and what should my daily routine be for the first few weeks before I do anything Ads related?
2) Most VPS-s only allow up to 2 IP ranges and all other IPs you can use are closely related (only different last or last two digits). How does this relate to Ads accounts?
3) How can I find out if my bank issues AVS or non-avs cards?
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No worries Tomsko

1. There's no requirement, you set up what you need and let it be. I'm very impatient however, I refresh every 10 minutes if I'm near a computer.
2. This is simply to avoid the flag of being related to previous accounts. I usually grab a private proxy IP and run it through a service on my own computer. Always making sure cache and such are not related.
3. It's totally down to country. It states most US and UK cards are AVS. I know that Payoneer isn't an AVS, as I've used it before. Other than that, you would have to test a purchase on a random website and use the wrong zip code to be sure it's non AVS.

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Thanks for the quick reply!

I think I might have not explained the 1) question well enough. I mean as I create a new identity for a new account (I go the extra mile and set up new virtual machine for each just to be safe) for how long time and how much do I need to pretend to be a normal person adding people, liking pictures and updating status? It sounds like you are jumping right into ads with new accounts or am I wrong?
2) Ok thank you, I'll just test and see how it goes!
3) Thanks will do!


My first two accounts (out of 5) I've been growing for 3 weeks are going Live tomorrow, wish me luck!

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Oh my. I never 'build them' to look like normal accounts. If you are running BH/GREY, you will get disabled no matter what, you can't fly under the radar forever.

If you are running WH, then you don't need a profile, you just need to run advertisements.

SO the answer is, I never do that. I make the account, I make 'fake' / 'test' ads to get past the initial flag test and then I jump straight into it.

I wrote a guide on this recently with my tactics and how I push killer short term campaigns and sold fair few copies (2.5k profit).

I'll PM you the download link and tell me what you think. Aug / Sep / Oct / Nov / Dec / Jan. I ran about 6 campaigns, each going for between 3-5 days. About 3k profit each time.

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Hi tomcpalead,
Do you mind sending me the download link for the guide ?
I started growing my 2 account on different still not attached payment methods and ad activity yet. Lets see what happens.

Hi tomsko best of luck, ur creating accounts for which country and currency ?

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Wow I didn't even know you can jump right into ads with fresh accounts!

Waiting for PM!

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Hey Tom, would you mind PM'ing me the link to your guide?

Thanks!

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Tom I would also like the guide please. If you can pm it to me that would be great Thanks!

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Also interested in your secret ninja tactics, could you pm me the link as well. Cheers

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