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STM PopAds.net Blacklist (45)

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You guys all seemed to like the Decisive Blacklist.

So I asked the kind folk over at PopAds.net if they could share a list of the most frequently excluded publishers. They kindly obliged.

-----> https://www.dropbox.com/s/4ke08iop1q...opads.rtf?dl=0.

Try duplicating a few of your live campaigns and see if the exclude list increase your ROI!

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35886
55098

instablock on every campaign, absolute shit placements, no surprise to see these top of the list

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wow,very useful share,thanks Mr Green!

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This is awesome!
Will surely use it for my next upcoming campaigns!

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This Instablock you mention, do you use any sw/service/script for that? Have sent PM to you, thanks

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55098

I have always wanted to know what site that was.

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I needed this. Thanks Mr Green !

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That's an awesome one!

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Once you spend a fair bit they give you "VIP Status" in which they offer postpay and quicker approval (plus you get a tiny medal in the top corner which makes you feel all badass)

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Perfect timing. I'm running a bot test and so far it doesn't seem like this traffic source is infested like some others. Definitely makes sense to run your campaigns the way you normally would and run one with the blacklist to compare notes. Thanks Mr. Green!

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popads definitely has a good bit of bot traffic, probably 20-25%~ from what I've tested

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Perfect timing Mr. Green! I just launched something like 50 camps with them over the past week. Can't thank-you enough!! Will go apply that list right now!



Amy

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I had just blocked 55098 minutes before finding this thread.

Will definitely add it to the autoblock list.

Nice thread, Mr Green.

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55098 - actually that one works fine for me.

35688 - that one sucks..

Thanks for the list.

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Interesting thread.
But it still comes down to testing.
Theres a placement on that list that I've been running for the last month thats been making me up to 280% ROI on some days (generally 100% on average)
and another placement that on 1 day made 856% ROI then went negative for a few days so is still subject to testing...
As far as 55098 goes, I blocked that but am still curious about it..The plot thickens

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Ouch! I didn't know this post existed. Hmm I guess I need to search more in this forum for such golden nuggets!

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Thanks for bumping up this thread man. Didn't know such a thing existed. Now I need to scour this forum for related threads..

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The only other one I know of are the Decisive blacklists:

http://stmforum.com/forum/showthread...sive-Blacklist

If anyone knows of other blacklists that have been shared please post below!


Amy

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Thanks Amy. I think we should create some demand for other blacklists to push someone at the top to request more networks.

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^^ Make a wish, and we will try to make it happen!

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I just plucked an eyelash to make this wish(I promisseee!). One for the team.



Now that I know this is possible, I emailed PlugRush support to see if they can provide me with one. Their support is always so nice, but then since its a bit unfair to their publishers, they might not do it. Or the support simply might not have access to it. But then people "at the top" have insiders who can get stuff for them

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Let me know if you don't get any progress

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Thanks for that post MR. Green

this should Definitely help improve CR% , ROI and save a lot of $$$ and Time of finding the bad placements.

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Plugrush

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Zeropark is known for having tons and tons of placements - a blacklist may be too much to ask though (after all they work directly with some of their publishers - but perhaps they could provide a blacklist of some of the brokered placements?)


Amy

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any popcash blacklist?

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Green, I have been bugging their support and they told me yesterday that they cannot provide such a list.

Can you try it at your end?

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^^ for Plugrush? Let me give it a try.

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Yeah, for PlugRush. Thanks mister, you the man!

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If these sites are on their blacklist, you shouldn't be able to buy traffic from them anymore when you set up a campaign. Should be disabled automatically with maybe the option to enable it again (in case somebody wants to enable it; eg burning some branding budget, delivering clicks objective, etc). This will lead to better traffic for everyone and longer term relationships with their clients for PopAds

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Thank you Mr Green!

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It sound like a really efficient list. Thanks a lot, you save my time and my money

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I'm seriously impressed...Nothing held back...Thanks!

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Thanks for that awesome post MR. Green !

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looking for popcash blacklist too

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this post is really old..are their updated blacklists?

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I would recommend that you do your testing to build your own blacklists.

Based on personal experience, some of the sites on the blacklist can be profitable.

Yes, there are placements that are consistently full of bots and therefore convert badly. But then, many of the remaining placements will convert to various degrees. Depending on what you're running and how you're running, you may or may not be able to make each placement profitable.

By the same reasoning: There are so many advertisers targeting the same placements. For the same placement, some advertisers are making it profitable and some aren't.

So, it would make sense for some of the sites on the most-frequently-blacklist, to be the largest / highest-profile placements. i.e. Some of those placements only made it on the list because they are big and therefore made it on the radar of lots of advertisers and got cut - because there will always be a percentage of advertiser that can't make them profitable.

Don't know if I've explained this clearly, but hopefully I've given you enough incentive to come up with your own blacklist - for this and other traffic sources!

(Also keep in mind that a placement that converts like shit for wifi, can convert very well for carrier. So if you run a lot of carrier traffic, definitely start separate blacklists for wifi vs. carrier.)



Amy

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Hi Amy, by saying build your own blacklist. Do you mean using bot detecting trap to filter out placements with a bot traffic that is higher than a certain ratio? Or, do you mean building that blacklist by running real campaigns? Because, either way, we will be able to build that list. However, in my humble opinion, they come with different prices. For bot trap, it is faster, cost less, but you risk cutting off placements that could actually profit; for running through real campaigns, it takes longer, costs more, but you don't risk cutting off the placements that could still convert with a high amount of bot traffic.

Thanks!

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Yes both methods will work: Using a bot script or spending money on each placement and cutting the ones that aren't profitable after a certain spend.

You're absolutely right - the easier cheaper way has higher risk of cutting good placements, and the longer more expensive way has lower risk. This is a yin-yang arrangement where when you have more of one you have less of the other. I've talked about this concept of efficiency vs. accuracy in countless posts.

And - it would be up to the individual to choose a sweet balance, somewhere between the 2 extremes. Or you can choose one of the extremes.

i.e.:

1)Use bot detection and cut everything with % bot traffic above a certain cut-off value.

2)Cut placements solely based on profitability (or rather lack of).

3)A combination of both...

a)Use bot detection first, but set the cut-off to a high %, e.g. 80% of 90%. Then cut the rest based on lack of profitability.

b)Use bot detection first, and set the cut-off to a lower %, e.g. 50-70%, then cut the rest based on lack of profitability. Then, if the campaign ends up profitable, retest the placements you decided to cut based on bot detection.


Which of these roads you decide to take, will depend on stuff like:

-Whether you're running wifi or carrier (carrier has little/no bot traffic so probably no need to use bot detection, whereas wifi is full of bots)

-The traffic volume available (the less traffic, the more careful you need to cut)

-How quickly you want to reach profits (quicker but smaller profits, or longer but greater profits)

-How likely it would be for you to keep running in the particular geo/carrier (if you're planning on running there again and again, then it may be better to cut more carefully)

-How many placements there are (if you have tons of placements available, then NOT using bot detection and relying on cutting based on losses can get very expensive)


Hope that answers your question!



Amy

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Also - forgot to mention another option:

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c)Test a few geos and cut based on losses without using bot detection. Then run bot detection to find out % bot per placement. That way you can get an idea of profitability vs. % bot traffic, and choose a sweet cut-off spot.



Amy

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hi guys,
just getting started with Popads, while this list is 3 years old, do any folks here have any more updated list? Plus i am also looking for some mentors on pop ads,!

I exchange i can help on natives, have been doing for 6 months, and would say its turning out to b decent.

Cheers

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I wouldn't use a blacklist that's 3 years old.

And before you find that mentor, here are a couple of threads that may help you get started:

https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...-for-beginners

https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...re-Experienced

A bit outdated - but most of the stuff still applies.



Amy

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Also: Just wrote another post on how to run on PopAds - a good intro!

https://stmforum.com/forum/showthrea...aign-on-PopAds



Amy

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