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02-02-2015 10:00 AM #1 phlong (Member)
Anyone got success with Pop Up Ads or Redirect-Traffic with SWEEPSTAKES?

Hi there,
I tried promoting Sweeps on Zeropark for a while in ZA but couldn't build a campaign yet that looked promosing. The country itself is competitive though.
I'll be promoting a German Shopping Voucher Lead Gen Offer soon. I'm just curious whether anyone ever got success with Sweeps on Popups and redirect traffic?
When spying I always find Anti Virus Landing pages in nearly every GEO.

Any tips where sweeps could work on? Obviously Facebook but I don't want to go through the whole process of buying, creating VCCs, getting banned and so on.
I'll probably try Display ads as well but I have huge problems with dsps due to the bot traffic I always get...

Thanks for any tips!

- Phlong


02-02-2015 07:01 PM #2 vaalion (Member)

I got sweepstakes working with those but a lot of GEOs dint work, most likely due to getting outbid a lot with the anti virus stuff (I also always find those when trying to spy lol) and I find with sweeps I am very limited by the advertisers, I tend to only have 1-2 offers per country that actually convert, all the other ones waste my money so it takes a lot of trying to find an advertiser with an offer that actually converts ...


02-02-2015 07:05 PM #3 phlong (Member)

Thanks vaalion for telling me your experience.
It's true, everytime I spy in every GEO I always see the Anti Virus Offers or some Apus Launcher Campaigns
I guess I'll try some display sources then.


02-02-2015 08:37 PM #4 mehdi (Member)

One thing to consider is that you can explore iOS/Windows traffic for sweepstakes, you won't find antivirus there

Also, always start with a winning offer, don't waste your money, ask your AM for their top converters and/or check their top offers reports.



Mehdi


02-03-2015 11:22 AM #5 vaalion (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by mehdi View Post
One thing to consider is that you can explore iOS/Windows traffic for sweepstakes, you won't find antivirus there

Also, always start with a winning offer, don't waste your money, ask your AM for their top converters and/or check their top offers reports.

Mehdi
The first part is a good idea to remember for some GEOs (especially the ones where I spy with android and see all thsoe anti virus...) , I have not thought about that but for the bigger traffic network campaigns I could go differently with lower bids for IOS and higher for Andoird to maximize ROI.

Also for me in sweepstakes I am not sure if asking AM is best advice for these (at least the pin submit ones), until I promoted my sweepstake offers they were very low in the "revenue" for the network, I had to try a lot of them for the GEOs that ended up working before I found the 1-2 that actually convert. Now they are significantly higher in the network so yeah, trying the top ones on the network is a good first step but if there is none for the GEO you want some can be hidden gems in my experience... I think this happens because anti virus/whatsapp etc pin submits / app installs are more $$ (or just easier) so most people are skipping the other offers for that traffic.


Besides a little facebook I haven't tried display for sweepstakes but probably some potential there ... Especially since the more "OMG YOU HAVE A VIRUS" banners aren't as easily accepted or you have to play with some harry potter magic.


02-06-2015 09:03 PM #6 stackman (Administrator)

Had sweepstakes works with pops, interstitials and redirects. I was running lots of volume on low margins.

The key for me was lots of landing page testing, and cutting 50%+ of my placements


08-28-2015 11:04 PM #7 Mr Yaz (Member)

Anyone here want to mastermind on running sweeps on DSPs? I'm looking for someone who has experience, currently running a lot of sweeps on pop traffic and looking to scale into some DSPs wanted to brainstorm with some folks on how best to setup the flow and make it work..


08-29-2015 07:48 AM #8 sebastian_r (Member)

Benelux, Nordics, UK, Australia, DACH

I wouldn't recommend Zeropark to anybody starting out with Sweeps. Couldn't make ZP work if my live would depend on it, while bringing home stable mid xxx/days with sweeps on other sources.

For lander: Aggressive is the name of the game, try every script in the book.

Match landers with OS you're targeting.

I cut as well more than 50% of placements. There are always only a couple working, I go full force with them. To find them, you need to run through lots of loosers. Sweeps with Pops can burn lots of cash till you find your winner.


09-28-2015 07:56 AM #9 exclusif (Member)

Most people seem to recommend Zeropark as a good entry point for sweeps. What sites have you had the most success with?


09-28-2015 08:25 AM #10 Finch (Moderator)

Problem with ZeroPark is that it's too good of an entry point.

Any platform that makes life so easy for affiliates is going suffer from competition (first entry points) and this will fragment any decent volume.

One thing I'd say about ZeroPark is that it's a good source for researching offers in weird markets via a redirect network.

E.g. Blasting a YTZ/BS campaign to 100 different countries and then picking out your winners from the data.

You can then drill down and see exactly which countries have offers worth promoting. A little reverse engineering will save you a lot of failed campaign launches.

As others have said in this thread, the best offer is fundamental to your success.

Nobody makes money in sweeps with the second or third best offer.


09-28-2015 10:17 AM #11 acepowermarketing (AMC Alumnus)

like finch said, top offer top offer!!!!

ok maybe traffic source like popads? or if you want to start small maybe mobicow? small traffic but thats some good quality


09-29-2015 01:07 AM #12 evasive (Member)

I lost loads of money on ZeroPark trying to promote sweeps. But was able to get a smaller european country to eventually make xxx/day, after blowing a lot of money. Wouldn't recommend sweeps if you have a low budget.


09-29-2015 04:31 AM #13 socceralien (Member)

What other pop traffic sources do you all recommend that can hit xxx ?


09-29-2015 01:51 PM #14 exclusif (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by Finch View Post
One thing I'd say about ZeroPark is that it's a good source for researching offers in weird markets via a redirect network.

E.g. Blasting a YTZ/BS campaign to 100 different countries and then picking out your winners from the data.
Thanks for your answer. By the way, how big a budget would it take to get enough data from 100 countries for this to be useful?


09-29-2015 02:02 PM #15 cbrughmans (Member)

IMO pop traffic is more for desktop download programs, e-commerce with very big brand names where you can basically drop the cookie and make the conversion at a later stage, and pay per call traffic. Also VOD does pretty well if you run pops on streaming/filesharing/torrent sites. Regarding the big brand names, they usually dont allow pop traffic for the very reason it works (the cookie conversions) or they'll limit your cookie time to 24/48 hours instead of 30 days


09-30-2015 09:38 PM #16 lanikai87 (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by cbrughmans View Post
IMO pop traffic is more for desktop download programs, e-commerce with very big brand names where you can basically drop the cookie and make the conversion at a later stage, and pay per call traffic. Also VOD does pretty well if you run pops on streaming/filesharing/torrent sites. Regarding the big brand names, they usually dont allow pop traffic for the very reason it works (the cookie conversions) or they'll limit your cookie time to 24/48 hours instead of 30 days
This thread is in relation to mobile pop.


10-01-2015 05:49 AM #17 coconut (Member)

How much budget do you need to test sweeps with pops? Any rough gauge?


10-01-2015 06:30 AM #18 Mr Green (Administrator)

Quote Originally Posted by coconut View Post
How much budget do you need to test sweeps with pops? Any rough gauge?
I would highly recommend studying our on-boarding guides http://stmforum.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?62-The-Onboarding-Zone
. We cover all these kinds of foundation questions.

If you have your foundation skills and knowledge sorted than you only need roughly mid $XXX to get sweeps working on pops.


10-01-2015 02:33 PM #19 coconut (Member)

Hi Mr Green!

Alright! Great to know! Thanks!


10-09-2015 06:36 PM #20 fluent (Member)

I've never had or seen success with Zeropark on Sweeps. I would avoid Zeropark for Sweeps like others have suggested. (note this pertains mainly to the US)
For those looking for the best sweeps in the US - hit me up and i'd be happy to assist. Feel free to PM or hit me up on skype - tim.antoian


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