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Has anyone here seen some real success following the mobile cookbook? (14)

01-28-2015 04:16 AM #1 guillermo (Member)
Has anyone here seen some real success following the mobile cookbook?

Sup guys!

I might have missed some threads, but everytime I see mobile follow alongs , they pretty much fail for the most part.

Just wanted to know if there are some succesful mobile follow along that I have missed?

thanks!
Guillermo

01-28-2015 04:35 AM #2 mcsteve (Member)
Has anyone here seen some real success following the mobile cookbook?

I could be wrong, but I feel like the mobile cookbook approaches are to some extent designed to let you fail without blowing a lot of money, and maximizing what you learn from your experiences. Of course, you might get lucky and pick a great angle for a great offer straight up, and experience no technical issues or hiccups and find your campaign profitable. But in my experience, the learning curve was steep and kicked my ass -- simply getting the campaigns up and running properly was a battle.

The cookbook gave me the structure I needed to be able to learn how to launch campaigns on mobile. It also provides guidelines for how to optimize your campaign if it does look promising. But that's no guarantee that your campaign will be successful. It's still up to you to come up with an effective angle, solid creatives and to keep testing to enable you to optimize to profit.

01-28-2015 04:41 AM #3 peterpan (Member)

I'm still new, and I still have -ROI on my follow along campaigns so I don't have much room to speak. But compared to the other guys who are -90%+ ROI most of the failure from what I see is:

* no translation
* no landers
* no landers with decent format
* bad looking banners
* no tracking or tracking setup incorrectly
* switch offers too early
* not grinding out enough banners, landers, etc
* poor angles

01-28-2015 06:04 AM #4 jay_per (AMC Alumnus)

Are there any other threads like the mobile cookbook instructions on STM to follow for someone completely new to the affiliate marketing industry?

01-28-2015 06:10 AM #5 kepe95 (Moderator)

In my opinion any big exact guide like the Mobile cookbook Appetizer will work great to learn, but never to make great profit. And walking into it with the idea of making money is wrong, it is all about learning cheap and efficient, making tests and getting your feet wet.

If you have exact guidelines you can follow, even as a complete newbie - and everybody follows them - which results in hundreds if not thousands of people following the exact same instructions for the same traffic source and the same offers. Of course there is not much profit to be made...

\\ The Mobile Cookbook (Appetizer) is great and helped me so much in the beginning, and if I would have to start from scratch again I would follow it again. But after a month or two when you nailed all the basics down, you should try your own things using the skills you have learned.

01-28-2015 09:42 AM #6 caurmen (Administrator)

People definitely get to success just using the Cookbook approaches, at least judging from my PM inbox. I've had quite a few PMs to that effect, and if you look around the forums several people have mentioned that too.

However, I would encourage you to move to the Main Course approach as soon as you're comfortable with the Appetiser. Landing pages are a big deal, and they'll really increase your chances for success.

It's not impossible to reach success with the Appetiser approach alone - I've seen students do it - but the Main Course significantly improves your chances.

Also, as kepe95 says - definitely experiment and try things on your own too. There's no one right way to do AM, and breaking a couple of the "rules" might be just what you need to hit success.

In particular, don't be afraid to experiment with different geos, less well-known or popular offers, and different mobile ad networks. Remember, when you're starting out, you don't need to scale to $xx,xxx a day - experiment with smaller geos and narrower targeting too!

Oh, and remember - persistence is key. You will need to run a LOT of campaigns to succeed, even following the best practice in the world. That's true all the way up even to super-affiliate level.

As far as Follow-Alongs go: one thing that's worth remembering about all Follow-Along threads here is that people do tend to go quiet when they hit success, as - reasonably enough - they don't want to share all the details of their profits. If a Follow-Along just tails off, it may well be that the person writing it hit a major campaign. It may also be that they changed vertical or gave up, of course, but don't assume all FAs that go quiet are failures.

@jay_per - there are several other options on STM too, although they're generally not quite as detailed as the Mobile Cookbook. The Getting Started Guide, for example, lays out how to set up profitable campaigns with POF. Both Finch and Maynzie have written guides to adult in the recent / semi-recent past.

And bbrock, MrGreen and stackman have all laid out their approaches to things, including mobile, in the recent past - stackman's post-Bangkok breakdown of what he did last year is really worth reading, as is bbrock's survey post and MrGreen's post on putting together a Decisive campaign late last year. None of those are step by step guides but they all present good approaches and information to follow.

01-28-2015 03:45 PM #7 dr_ngo ()

Carumen's guide is good.

He has put a LOT of work into it, and it's the best mobile guide out there.

Is it going to take you from $0 to $1k? I don't know. It's not designed to do that.

It's meant for the person who has never launched a mobile campaign before, and to get them enough confidence to take action. Mobile is NOT easy for beginners, but following his guide is definitely a HUGE advantage vs someone starting with nothing.

01-28-2015 05:38 PM #8 infotainer (Member)

I will be launching my first mobile campaign and while I cant vouch for instant success as a result of the mobile cookbook, i can tell you that it is the most detailed "how to" guide out there. Paid or not paid. I've seen dozens of paid courses that don't come close to the detail I've seen in the cookbook. That being said and from what i have read in the follow alongs, lack of creativity from angles to creatives seems to be a common theme. Don't just copy past, Innovate. Innovation can come from inspiration from others doing well with your own twist. Try to make it better than what is out there and keep testing.

01-30-2015 02:40 AM #9 bigherb (AMC Alumnus)

Quote Originally Posted by kepe95 View Post
In my opinion any big exact guide like the Mobile cookbook Appetizer will work great to learn, but never to make great profit. And walking into it with the idea of making money is wrong, it is all about learning cheap and efficient, making tests and getting your feet wet.

If you have exact guidelines you can follow, even as a complete newbie - and everybody follows them - which results in hundreds if not thousands of people following the exact same instructions for the same traffic source and the same offers. Of course there is not much profit to be made...

\\ The Mobile Cookbook (Appetizer) is great and helped me so much in the beginning, and if I would have to start from scratch again I would follow it again. But after a month or two when you nailed all the basics down, you should try your own things using the skills you have learned.
^^^^^^THIS^^^^^

I would add that even when I cook actual food at home out of a recipe book, I use the cook book as the getting started point and once I get the idea I ask myself how the recipe can be improved. It seems in AM that is where the real money starts to get made by those that get successful.

01-30-2015 04:07 AM #10 iAmAttila (Veteran Member)

Of course it wont work but change the traff source from decisive to another.. change the offer so its not du speed booster battery saver etc rather something unique (get your own offer by doing some networking on linked in with app developers) apply what caurmen thought you and bam! A few hundred bucks a day profit easy!

01-30-2015 09:23 AM #11 Mr Green (Administrator)

There is a big difference between trying to learn the process and trying to profit.

You are building on sand if you are focusing on profit from the start. Things change so fast in the industry that if you don't understand why and how things work (the process), you will end up starting from scratch every month.

Whenever you read a guide or case study don't take it as is, be the "why guy". Ask yourself why each step was made.

Your road to until profit might be slower, but you will smash the guys out of the park who ignored the process in the long run.

01-30-2015 06:10 PM #12 shakedown (Member)

Yes, I have. My first REAL profitable campaign was done using stuff I learned from the cookbook. Like Attila says, you need to tweak certain things.

Last June, with stuff I learned from the Cookbook, I ran Opera Mini on Go2mobi and was making $100/day profit for a longggg time with no work at all. I did come up with an angle that, to my knowledge, nobody else was using at the time. I thought it was great cause it was "autopilot"...Of course, it wasn't really "autopilot", I just stopped testing waaay to early!! if I wasn't a newb, that was easily a $300-$500/day campaign if I knew what I know now .

My Advice: Use the cookbook to get into a "systematic mode of thinking". Then you can tweak it to your own style, offers and traffic sources. Once you do you can come up with your own system.

01-30-2015 10:30 PM #13 bigherb (AMC Alumnus)

Quote Originally Posted by shakedown View Post
Yes, I have. My first REAL profitable campaign was done using stuff I learned from the cookbook. Like Attila says, you need to tweak certain things.

Last June, with stuff I learned from the Cookbook, I ran Opera Mini on Go2mobi and was making $100/day profit for a longggg time with no work at all. I did come up with an angle that, to my knowledge, nobody else was using at the time. I thought it was great cause it was "autopilot"...Of course, it wasn't really "autopilot", I just stopped testing waaay to early!! if I wasn't a newb, that was easily a $300-$500/day campaign if I knew what I know now .

My Advice: Use the cookbook to get into a "systematic mode of thinking". Then you can tweak it to your own style, offers and traffic sources. Once you do you can come up with your own system.
I'm new here, but even I can pick up on the fact that this response is a golden nugget. Thanks for sharing Shakedown!

02-02-2015 05:24 PM #14 infotainer (Member)

Develop a "systematic mode of thinking!" That is right on point shakedown. Until you start running campaigns without your cheat sheet your still learning. Once you can launch campaigns at will, you have developed this systematic way of thinking.

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