Own (your own) Mailchimp / Aweber / GetResponse etc. (11)
Hellos to fellow email marketers.
Earlier this year I wrote a few posts about my email marketing progress. All is going super good - 2000k hourly clicks make life a lot more interesting 
Anyways, if you're reading this, you probably know that aforementioned services charge a lot for bulk sending and are very trigger-happy when it comes to importing your own lists into their systems.
After a few months struggling with tons of VPS and manual setups that would die off quickly, I've finally come across a great guy who sets up high volume email servers with the following tech specs:
Server Side:
- Power MTA as Mail Server with all Inbox validations [DMARC, SPF, DKIM, Domainkeys]
- IPs registration in Major ISPs to forward Spam Complaints to your Mailing Software Installation to prevent decrease of our IP Reputation and increase the Inbox ratio
- Virtual MTA Technology Implementation
- Complete BackOFF rules to prevent Mail Ratio Blocks
- Bounce Routing
Frontend Side:
- Interspire Email Marketer Mailing Software (latest licensed version)
- Multithreading: To speed up the sending process
- Multiple MTA with IP Monitor
- Spinning: To generate unique content with URL masquerade
- Feedback Loops: To process all the Spam Complaints received and remove from System
- Remote Bounce Processor to analyze or capture 100% of bounces from ISP's
If you try building such setup yourself, you might get to around 15k for the whole thing, these guys make it for a fraction of that.
Ping williamsdan777@gmail.com and tell him that you're from sergein and he'll give you the full picture.
May the new year of your life be sunny, funny... and since there is no better rhyme, may it bring a ton of money!!!
Originally Posted by sergein
Earlier this year I wrote a few posts about my email marketing progress. All is going super good - 2000k hourly clicks make life a lot more interesting
So 2 million clicks an hour?
48 million clicks every 24 hours?
Even on 20% open rate and 5% click through rate, that is like ... 4.8 billion emails sent a day?
Wowsers.
Where did you get these numbers man? My db is around 24000000 emails. With various offers and average open rate of 1% and ctr of 10%, I get around 20k daily.
Update: Ah, lol... Now, I see
That should read like 2k or 2000
I am using a 512 ip pool for that
Sorry but reading that you're on interspire made me throw up in my mouth a little. Is that what you are using? I've been there, done that.... You can make money with it but it is riddled with tons of problems that will prevent you from scaling. Your guy must have optimized the hell out of the install and your server. How much mail are you able to get out a second? Minute?
I'm VERY skeptical of anyone claiming they have good IEM + PMTA setups because their are foreigners all over odesk and freelancers claiming they are "email experts" when they infact don't even know what an SBL and they give you a POS setup. I know because that is where I started.
Get in touch with me and i can make some much much better recommendations that come nowhere near $15k. I rode on that side of naivety for too long so I'm willing to show you some proper solutions 
Originally Posted by dalhaze
I will be glad to learn from you. I have sent you a PM.
dalhaze, what are the solutions you recommend? Could you share here so everyone can benefit?
sergein, I don't see any posts about your progress. Could you share your results?
_mcr_, great moderation here... I will make a write up during the next week about my progress in the email area...
dalhaze , pls share you experience i'm also interesting in testing new setups
Hey Sorry for the delay, January was an extremely busy month for me and it still hasn't let up.
There is no simple answer to what mailing platform or ESP to use. I have used probably close to 10 in the last year and they all shined at different things.
It really depends on what strategy you will be using when mailing. Contrary to popular belief, and other misinformation put out there including by members of this forum... you can infact legally send email to people that did not optin to your messages or did not request your solicitation. CANSPAM is actually a magnificent piece of legislation. What I'm getting at here is that there are 101 different strategies to mailing, just like there is with affiliate campaigns. It is just one source of traffic and there is many different ways to exploit it:
If you want to take a targeted list you bought, load it in to an ESP (getresponse for instance) and send with no remorse you can probably make back more than the ESP account cost you. This isn't very sustainable but i'm trying to make a point.
Strategies can become much more developed though, you can filter out your most engaged users by tracking openers and clickers, and use things in your email's to try and drive down spam complaints to retain proper metrics and keep from getting kicked off an ESP
A typical mailer of the nature I'm experienced with will zero in on a particular mail provider an figure it out (yahoo, AOL, hotmail, etc...) then scale off that knowledge. This is often times using their own IPs.
Sendy has a pretty simple interface, without many options but it can send at 5-10x the speed of interspire on a VPS. send-safe.com is another one I can recommend as well as deliverability agent, though they are pricey you need to know what you're doing. Sendy is the only one that is low cost. But you get what you pay for. The list goes on and on. The mailing industry is vast and there is many ways to do it. Another one is octeth oempro, it is a decent piece of software and much more reliable than interspire.
I have fiddled with interspire and heavily modded and optimized versions and I will probably never touch it again, it had some serious issues that i couldnt deal with such as sending a single user the same email 15+ times.... you can't be having that. The main point of my post was to warn those interested to be weary of this "solution" that many "experts" tout will do anything they need and imo 95% of the time is total shit software. Most of my mailing friends cringe at the idea of anyone using it. It really all depends on what you're trying to do. If you have a double optin list where sending speed is not important then interspire might be a fit. If you are anybody else it is not worth your time.
dalhaze, it looks like you've had a really bad experience, so I understand why you hate Interspire. Not sure if you were using a nulled or hacked version or what. However, I have been using it myself for several years, and it's really a great piece of software. I even tweaked it to add some variables that I need, and I installed plugins for MTA management and for spinning domains even. I use it in conjunction with the top ESPs as well as my own install of PMTA.
I've sent as much as 100,000 emails per hour, with room to send much faster. I never had a down day with it to be honest except briefly when I was modifying the source code.
I know the email marketing space fairly well and Interspire is a great value for people who send a decent amount of volume. If Sendy's working well for you though, no need to deal with running Interspire.
Have you guys tried arpReach? How does it compare to Sendy?
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