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12-26-2014 09:57 PM #1 jaguar team (Member)
is blackbulkmail a good option to get around 500/day gmail outgoing limit?

hello email experts,
first off, i'm not a spammer at all and my questions have nothing to do with email spamming

we all know that hotmail and gmail etc have a daily limit of 500 outgoing emails and for most people it's good enough. at time, i need to send out multiple emails in a day from my gmail account and the 500/day limit becomes a problem.

i happened to find blackbulkmail.com the other day but didn't like it simply because of the words "black" and "bulk". i guess it's developed specifically for spammers. but i noticed on their website they say they don't send emails thru SMTP, just in browsers like you normally would do.

i'd like to know:
1) is it a good option to get around the 500/day hard limit by gmail and hotmail etc? any other alternatives?

2) if i use it(or other similar programs) to send more than 500 emails a day, will my email account get banned(or any other risks)?

3) how does the program work if they don't use SMTP?

any help would be much appreciated!

12-27-2014 03:24 AM #2 zeno (Administrator)

Can you not just use Google Apps for Business or a Hosted Exchange e.g. by Office365 and send through them? If they have a 500 send limit you could just email support to get this lifted. 500 emails a day is a paltry sum for a receptionist sending out stuff to workers, for example.

12-27-2014 09:45 PM #3 jaguar team (Member)

thanks zeno but i don't use my personal gmail account for business.

i just hate the hard limit of 500/day. I usually don't send that many emails everyday but sometimes i do need coz i've got quite a few contacts in my address book. that's why i asked if it's a good program to use and if there're better options.

12-27-2014 10:29 PM #4 mvaneijk (Member)

If you need to sent out THAT many emails we all know it's not personal, meaning it's for Business.

Which should lead you to options such as;

https://sendgrid.com
http://aws.amazon.com/ses/

I am not sure what you are emailing out on your gmail account that requires over 500+ but I bet you also want to look a little more professional than just CCing a bunch of emails in one go.

Other options you might want to look for are;

http://www.getresponse.com
http://www.aweber.com
http://hello.mailjet.com

Instructions on your initial post are very unclear and I just murdered a cat.

12-28-2014 12:40 AM #5 jaguar team (Member)

thanks mvaneijk but your reply makes me look like a big liar no?

normally i only send/reply 10-20 emails a day but sometimes, especially during the holidays Christmas new year etc, i send out greetings and a few funny pictures to all my contacts back and forth (friends, acquaintances, ex-colleagues etc etc) and it all adds up....mind you i've got close to 200 contacts in my address

so again, it's not for business, and not for spamming either.

12-28-2014 01:20 AM #6 mvaneijk (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by jaguar team View Post
thanks mvaneijk but your reply makes me look like a big liar no?

normally i only send/reply 10-20 emails a day but sometimes, especially during the holidays Christmas new year etc, i send out greetings and a few funny pictures to all my contacts back and forth (friends, acquaintances, ex-colleagues etc etc) and it all adds up....mind you i've got close to 200 contacts in my address

so again, it's not for business, and not for spamming either.
It completely depends how you see it... I never implied you are lying here.

What I actually said was that there is a little chance you would ever get any issues with gmail or hotmail for sending out some xmas love.

Now what I don't understand is that YOU yourself just said you got close to 200+ contacts while stating gmail/hotmail won't email over 500+ contacts, which makes your question here kind of irrelevant does it not?

I even went as far as linking you to services which might suit you better but since it's all just for the holiday spirit I don't see a reason for you not to separate all your contacts one by one and make them feel extra special

12-28-2014 01:55 AM #7 jaguar team (Member)

thanks but i think i said pretty clearly in my first post that the limit is 500 outgoing emails/day, not 500 contacts

Now what I don't understand is that YOU yourself just said you got close to 200+ contacts while stating gmail/hotmail won't email over 500+ contacts, which makes your question here kind of irrelevant does it not?

12-28-2014 02:13 AM #8 mvaneijk (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by jaguar team View Post
thanks but i think i said pretty clearly in my first post that the limit is 500 outgoing emails/day, not 500 contacts
Oh wait, obviously you also want to answer all your 200+ friends which is adding up to the 500 outgoing emails! I I apologize man!

You might also want to re-read what I just said regarding your own answer since you implied that you ONLY want to sent out emails to your "200+" contacts which does not add up to 500 outgoing emails at all...

Actually this is the first time I hear someone complaining about not being able to sent enough emails for personal use and I want to congratulate you for being the most social person I know!

12-28-2014 02:16 AM #9 jaguar team (Member)

no your all right, no need to apologize

12-28-2014 02:52 AM #10 mvaneijk (Member)

Well 3) there is no such thing as sending email without SMTP ( is a TCP/IP protocol used in sending and receiving e-mail.)

Obviously you can sent email without using the direct SMTP from gmail or hotmail and use external SMTP servers which will most likely "depending on what you use" hit the fucking spam box.

Now instead of trying to be all mister white hat you could have simply asked the question you seek the answer to which is; I found some method where this dude is making good cash out of just spamming the fuck out of emails and I wonder how he does it?

A little eye opener for you; "spamming" 500 emails per day might get you 5 clicks with luck and if your funnel is optimized to the bone probably not a single sale/lead.



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12-28-2014 04:47 AM #11 zeno (Administrator)

Well this is escalating haha. Let's abate the back and forth, gentlemen.

@jaguar team - I'm still no entirely sure what solution you're after here. If you want to send email to business OR personal contacts, a hosted Exchange or Google Apps for Business account will cost $5/mo and do just fine. I highly doubt they have hard 500/send a day limits, that's just unreasonable given then service they provide.

If you are sending out emails in bulk e.g. to a subscriber list or set of customers, just use something like GetResponse/Aweber or Mandrill in combination with whatever other service/client.

500-1000 emails a day isn't anything on a spam scale so I don't see you having too much trouble here. I mean, 1000 emails a day is only an email every 90 seconds or so.

12-28-2014 07:08 AM #12 jaguar team (Member)

a bit confused here...why's that? why the emails to my contacts wouldn't add up to 500 outgoing emails? i don't get it.

since you implied that you ONLY want to sent out emails to your "200+" contacts which does not add up to 500 outgoing emails at all...

lol can't believe it's so hard to convince others that i'm not a spammer.
i don't know how to spam and have zero interest in learning how to do it, period.
yes i'm curious how they could get around the 500/day rule. but my perspective is "is their method safe? will google ban my gmail account if i use that program?" instead of "seems they're making good cash out of spamming and how can i do it myself too". that's a big difference.
Now instead of trying to be all mister white hat you could have simply asked the question you seek the answer to which is; I found some method where this dude is making good cash out of just spamming the fuck out of emails and I wonder how he does it?
A little eye opener for you; "spamming" 500 emails per day might get you 5 clicks with luck and if your funnel is optimized to the bone probably not a single sale/lead.

thnks zeno i'm aware of the google apps $5/mo solution. it's recurring monthly payment and i don't particularly like it if i have other options. if i can pay a flat one-off fee to blackbulkmail and if it works without the risk of getting my gmail account banned, i'll be happy. if it's a program specifically designed for professional spammers, i'll stay away.
I'm still no entirely sure what solution you're after here. If you want to send email to business OR personal contacts, a hosted Exchange or Google Apps for Business account will cost $5/mo and do just fine. I highly doubt they have hard 500/send a day limits, that's just unreasonable given then service they provide.

oh btw i'm not having a heated argument with mvaneijk and nothing is escalating lol. any comments welcome

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