is thrive better than voluum? (16)

What do you guys think?

when dealing with pops traffic Voluum might get too expensive for some of us

What's your experience with Thrive?

I didn't test Voluum. But definetly I'm in love with Thrive.

This software is ver flexible and is a fact that this app was developed for affiliates!

Cheers for Thrive!

The best option for affiliate marketers!!!

Voluum costs $0.03CPM. (0.00003 per impression).

Is your pop traffic that sensitive?

Voluum has a nicer UI - drill downs etc works better, cleaner etc, can do some additional sorts on things like mobile os versions etc which is valuable for optimizing.
I left them because I personally have had a few issues with their reporting not being accurate while "developers were working on it" I've also had click ids go out for one campaign and then fire conversions on another. The nice folks at Voluum assure me this isn't possible, however, this happened to me. It is a pain when you don't have access to the raw data. You're at the mercy of their tech support. That being said, I have friends who continue to use voluum throwing significant volume of pops to it, are quite happy with it, and have never noticed the issues I had - but after my personal experience I had to find something else.

Thrive is cheaper, but you keep your data and you can pull anything you want from it if you want to roll up your sleeves. It's all there in your own db. The reporting is a little light - for example if you wanted to see what your conversion rate was on Android 4.x versus Android 3.x versus Android 2.x you cannot do this from the UI and need to jump into the database and do a couple queries in mysql. The only graph they have is the 90 day rolling window of all your campaigns lumped together. While the graph is pretty, it's also pretty useless. The rest of the reports are just tables, so for the visual person, you need another tool to look at the data. But to be fair, most of the reports you do need are right there to make "most" of the decisions for optimizing your traffic. Also if you want to pull a day parting report on a zone / web id you cannot, it's either a zone report or a day parting report (whether or not there's a ton of value in that type of report is opinion, the fact is in voluum you can pull this, but in thrive you cannot.) I think over time they will offer more reporting functionality - but Voluum has a little more of this covered. If you run a lot of campaigns and a lot of countries, then Thrive lets you do some grouping and tagging on campaigns / offers / landers / etc which makes setup and analysis a little cleaner and easier.

If you're cutting over from voluum to thrive, and you use things like device name / device type / device model in your landing pages and get these passed to you from voluum, thrive passes the data a little differently than voluum so you'll need to get your javascripts updated in your landers.

From a speed of redirect / traffic forwarding aspect, I didn't measure it. They both pride themselves on being fast at forwarding the traffic, however, I don't know how to measure the speed and compare them but I think that would be an interesting test. Clearly the type of box you use for self hosting Thrive will impact the results.

Personally, I'm going to stay with Thrive, the tech support is responsive, and while the frequency is a bit of a pain, they're rolling out easy to apply updates on a regular basis and seem totally engaged with supporting and improving their product so it's only going to get better.

@gravityclicks

Thanks very much for the detailed feedback on this.

The guys at Voluum have built an awesome product, and I have to commend them for that. Thrive is the underdog right now, and we'll keep working hard to improve our product and services to compete and fill any need.

In response to a few things:
1) Drill down reports - yes, I know this is not as easy as it should be right now for drilling down on individual campaigns, but we will have that available soon. We can, however, drill down across any number of combined campaigns.

2) OS versions - we will have this within the next few weeks with a new vastly improved infrastructure.

3) We will be adding graphs in the next few weeks as well to each campaign to improve the visualizations.

Like you mentioned, we're very passionate about our product and will continue to improve it based on feedback such as this as quickly as possible.

Thanks for the support guys!

I could spend an hour or two writing a report on the pros and cons of both platforms. Overall, they are both remarkable platforms that blow the older tracking systems out of the water (at least in my opinion!).

Hoorah for tech/tracking evolution!

Can't agree more with everything that's been said. Indeed, some useful graphs are missing, such as campaign overview within defined time frame, but overall experience is really positive.

Originally Posted by gravityclicks

Voluum has a nicer UI - drill downs etc works better, cleaner etc, can do some additional sorts on things like mobile os versions etc which is valuable for optimizing.
I left them because I personally have had a few issues with their reporting not being accurate while "developers were working on it" I've also had click ids go out for one campaign and then fire conversions on another. The nice folks at Voluum assure me this isn't possible, however, this happened to me. It is a pain when you don't have access to the raw data. You're at the mercy of their tech support. That being said, I have friends who continue to use voluum throwing significant volume of pops to it, are quite happy with it, and have never noticed the issues I had - but after my personal experience I had to find something else.

Thrive is cheaper, but you keep your data and you can pull anything you want from it if you want to roll up your sleeves. It's all there in your own db. The reporting is a little light - for example if you wanted to see what your conversion rate was on Android 4.x versus Android 3.x versus Android 2.x you cannot do this from the UI and need to jump into the database and do a couple queries in mysql. The only graph they have is the 90 day rolling window of all your campaigns lumped together. While the graph is pretty, it's also pretty useless. The rest of the reports are just tables, so for the visual person, you need another tool to look at the data. But to be fair, most of the reports you do need are right there to make "most" of the decisions for optimizing your traffic. Also if you want to pull a day parting report on a zone / web id you cannot, it's either a zone report or a day parting report (whether or not there's a ton of value in that type of report is opinion, the fact is in voluum you can pull this, but in thrive you cannot.) I think over time they will offer more reporting functionality - but Voluum has a little more of this covered. If you run a lot of campaigns and a lot of countries, then Thrive lets you do some grouping and tagging on campaigns / offers / landers / etc which makes setup and analysis a little cleaner and easier.

If you're cutting over from voluum to thrive, and you use things like device name / device type / device model in your landing pages and get these passed to you from voluum, thrive passes the data a little differently than voluum so you'll need to get your javascripts updated in your landers.

From a speed of redirect / traffic forwarding aspect, I didn't measure it. They both pride themselves on being fast at forwarding the traffic, however, I don't know how to measure the speed and compare them but I think that would be an interesting test. Clearly the type of box you use for self hosting Thrive will impact the results.

Personally, I'm going to stay with Thrive, the tech support is responsive, and while the frequency is a bit of a pain, they're rolling out easy to apply updates on a regular basis and seem totally engaged with supporting and improving their product so it's only going to get better.

i like the object way of data handling in Thrive
you save your data once and use it on multiple places as much as you like later on
also its self hosted and has modern tech in the hood which totaly outperform cpvlab
everything looks organized clean really love it

Any chance Thrive supports - Traffic Source Timezone tracking? I.E. Voluum sets the account to one time-zone but then I can't exactly line up my costs b/c there's often different timezones my traffic sources operate in..

Originally Posted by Mr Yaz

Any chance Thrive supports - Traffic Source Timezone tracking? I.E. Voluum sets the account to one time-zone but then I can't exactly line up my costs b/c there's often different timezones my traffic sources operate in..

For newbies: Voluum > Thrive > P202
For experienced: Thrive > Voluum > P202

Is there anyway for Thrive to do a whitelist for the Cloaking option at this moment?

Originally Posted by edwinly

Is there anyway for Thrive to do a whitelist for the Cloaking option at this moment?

Originally Posted by ipyxel

As of the update we sent this morning, YES, you can!

You can whitelist or blacklist with any of the available rules now.

Originally Posted by atom64

hm i updated to latest version and dont see any difference ?
where is this setting ?

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