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Why I don't do Adult (Need advice inside..) (37)

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I don't know some of people feel the same like me or not. But, I really need your advice guys

Okay, let's go straight to the point.

Adult is really profitable, one of the primary needs of human, many creatives available, high volume, lot of traffic sources, evergreen. Many affiliates can go from 0 to millionaires from adult if they hit it hard (I've read it in some forums)

But the problem is.. I feel uncomfortable with this niche. Why?
1. It's against the religion (of course)
2. I'm married.. it's hard to work with creatives (landers, banners, etc..) because I work in my home with wife. I'm sure she will get mad if she see nude / porn pics in my laptop (she didn't really know about adult / porn sites)

I've tried adult some times ago, split test landing pages, added more volume, with cut here and there (device types, day parting, hour parting) I can get nice profit. But I left it behind because of the reason above.

What do you think guys?
Why you do adult and why you don't? (besides about money)

Thanks

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If you feel as though something isn't right for you, for whatever reason, don't do it. Simple as that.

I can relate to a lot of those points and don't blame you at all. In fact, those are some reasons why I don't push adult offers myself. Same thing with rebills. At times I have even felt slightly embarrassed when turning down certain suggestions from AMs, especially when starting out. But there's plenty of money to be made here outside of adult.

With that being said, you don't necessarily have to run adult offers to run on adult traffic. Truth be told, the same guy who just got off a porn site may go look for something on google and click one of your ads. Of course, always make sure with your networks/clients that the adult traffic will be allowed and is backing out for them. I've run a fair bit of traffic on adult sources to non-adult offers, so it's certainly possible. Although my biggest campaigns have had nothing to do with it.

Guys like us may be in the minority in this industry, but we do exist.

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I use to kick ass in Adult gay anime, cartoon niche , even do i am straight..but your brain get used to it looking at hundreds of pics everyday ....I did it cos very less competition.

Against religion, well that is totally up to you how seriouse your about your religion. I dont have any advice more than try to follow your country laws where you are at.


My religiouse experince

I had more than 1000 Rebills with CCBILL on
BustyAmateurs.com at that time it was one of the largest amateur pay sites late 1997. The owner flipped out and got into Religouse Christian sect .. One morning i woke up and it said on the site that he found god, and closed the operation cos his god has spoken to him . from around 6000 a month to 0 over a night. The guy closed a 10m operation per month.

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Shit's uncensored upp in hurrr haha.

But yeah, if you don't like it, just don't do it. I don't do adult because I find the vertical too distracting.

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Perhaps if she starts to link your business to holidays and handbags she might come around

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It's called market research Zeno

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Just don't do it at Starbucks.

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Glad, I have a supporter here

Agree, there are plenty money outside adult, but adult is really tempting. People go to porn sites are in "horny mode" it's a bit hard to monetize them with non adult offers.

Thanks Integrity!

If I were you, my brain will explode.lol. Beware, you can be interested with a man soon..
Thanks for sharing man!

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this does not apply to my wife

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there is nothing wrong with porn sites, but the adult dating offers we promote have little real female profiles from my opinion, so people are kind of wasting their money.

On the other hand only small percentage of people actually end up paying for memberships, i don't know how exactly site owners monetize the traffic, they probably just sell the leads or promote to them some other products through email list.

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I like to live dangerously

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haha i like your style, i need to get more guerrilla with my work spaces.

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Content is just content, we're packaging it for marketing purposes.

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I enjoy mixing business with pleasure.

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I don't do adult because I do mobile exclusively.

About your concerns, you can solve them easily.

1) Hire a va to upload campaigns and do all the grunt work
2) Outsource getting landers/banners made, including finding images to split test on banners.

You can just talk to your 'team' in text, and never see porn. You can optimize campaigns by looking at again data in your tracker, and telling a worker what to cut, what to split test more of, etc etc.

Problem solved

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Good solution.
I would just have the VA install something like tahometer, so you can monitor their work activities and make sure they are not getting too distracted during the time you are paying them for.

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Sorry Cant give you advice about remote worker monitoring all my workers are in house.

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I think if you have any form of hesitancy about working with a vertical, for whatever reason, then you should find something else.

That hesitancy will be a competitive disadvantage.

I mean, sure, you could find work-arounds to avoid having to see porn every day, but I'm not sure that changes the fact that it's against your religion, and there's a clear friction with your wife knowing about it.

Where there is friction, there is usually procrastination.

I'd find something different that you can dive in balls-deep and guilt-free.

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Great post OP.

RE: rebill, the concept of "bad" vs "good" rebill comes down to expectations IMO.

If the consumer EXPECTS to get billed the following month, it's "clean" offer. Ex: rent, cell phone bill, gym membership, mortgage, etc.

If the consumer is "tricked" or has no expectation of getting a rebill, that's where grey becomes black.

I'm sure a lot of businesses try rebilling.. but the good ones let people cancel. The shady ones: "hello FTC" time


I'd love to hear what kind of vertical experienced AM-ers (who share the same sentiment as @mrchow and @zeno) run on.

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I don't do adult mainly because Porn is the #1 cause for erectile dysfunction (ED)

http://yourbrainonporn.com

http://www.reddit.com/r/NoFap/

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This is absolutely not true. There are at least a dozen medical conditions that can cause it and apart from that there are another few dozen lifestyle habits that are bigger causes.

The whole ''no fap'' movement was started by religious fanatics who feel threatened by pornography

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Ok let me rephrase that. The #1 cause of ED for men in their 30's is porn. I saw a doctor say this, tried it and now I believe it and have gone a porn diet and it works.

porn related ED on Dr. Oz

http://www.doctoroz.com/videos/can-p...sfunction-pt-1

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not talking about the whole ED discussion specifically, but please do yourself a big favor and don't take anything dr. oz says as actual medical advice.

he's pretty much the impersonation of a shady diet rebill landing page and every year miraculously finds like 100 new "magic cures" for instantly losing fat etc., conveniently combined with some product that he profits from of course.

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Sorry if didn't understand it well, specially knowing your are one of most knowledgeable mobile guys here, but why do you think adult and mobile excluye each other? in fact mobile is huge in adult and the current main money maker both for adult media buyers/affiliates and for the direct publishers/website owners. Mobile devices including tablets used to be 5% of total adult traffic and now it's over 50%.

We have been doing exclusively adult and mobile for the past 4 years and growing non stop. Now we are also getting into mainstream but just to try new things and to expand our business, not because adult is going down at all in mobile, it's the other way around.

Totally agree with you on that, you don't need to enjoy porn yourself or even to watch it too much to do it, it's just marketing a product. I used to be a super affiliate for online gambling years ago and I haven't ever played in an online casino nor i have any interest on it.

Of course if you like and enjoy yourself a product, it's easier to market it, to write creative angles, etc but it's not a must, else most of us wouldn't be able to market anything other than our hobbies.

We had an ex-sales director from one of the top mainstreams companies in the world to come over to our office recently for a job interview and he admitted that he was initially reluctant due to us having a porn past, but that he was greatly surprised to see 100 employees working and none of them had porn in his screen, just excel sheets and web stats.

If the problem is religion believes, ok, nothing we can't advice mrchow about that, I'm not religious myself but respect those that are.

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I respect your guys opinion but for me personally, eliminating alot of porn from my life has improved my sex life 10x (personally experiencing ED where I had a hotass girl naked in my bed and couldn't do it) so that is why I don't do adult because I personally have seen the positive effects of not having porn in my life.

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This thread

#TooMuchInformation

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ha ha.

dr. oz is indirectly responsible for making affiliates a lot of $$$. all the garcinia cambogia guys had him on their sites before he started sending them c&d's .

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If you don't like it or have a moral issue then def don't do it... I have worked in the adult biz for 14 years+ and now all the adult images come across the screen and it's just like the matrix screen. Just all lines of code to me haha!

Anyways good luck with your porno endeavours! :-)

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Having promoted mainly adult offers over most of my affiliate marketing career, I continue to be surprised by this perception over the past few months that adult is "easier", or a quick path to $1 million plus. While I don't deny there is money to be made in adult, I wouldn't say it is any easier to make money than any other vertical in this industry. In fact, my most profitable, and probably "easiest" campaign, was in a non-adult vertical.

My advice: Find a large vertical you are comfortable with, and maybe even interested in. Then study it, test campaigns, work harder than your competitors, network within it. With this approach, I don't think you will make any less money, than you would have made should you have been "comfortable" with adult.

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maybe mainstream/causal dating offers? i run some. no porn/hardcore stuff. and works well.
but, of course, do what you like
my2cents

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and you blame that on porn and masturbation? couldnt it be anything else?
Look, it's not uncommon for you to not be able or feel comfortable having sex with a girl regardless of how hot she is, this happened to me a lot and I guarantee you it's not because of porn, its due to social anxiety, having too much to drink and overall around that. If I knew the person I was having sex with well I wouldn't have problems, mainly the randoms that I couldn't.

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To the OP, how about I give you one of my $XXX,XXX per month adult campaigns to swipe and run with? Will you put behind your principles and take up the offer?

The bottom line is if you train your mind to be professional and focused, your brain will follow suit and you wouldnt fall prey to the 'ladies of the night ...er online porn'

Find your sweet spot, not your girfriend or wife's sweet spot.

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On one side of the equation you've got some ethical/religious hangups yet on the other you'd basically consider throwing those issues out the door for the money.

So whats it going to be? Just pick a side and get on with it mate.

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Get rid of your religion and your wife. Problem solved?

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Lately people outside of the Adult word act like it's just easy money there for the taking. This couldn't be further from the truth.

It's a cut throat industry that changes daily. It's also full of very intelligent people who've created efficient operations to push out their competition.

If you have any hang ups whatsoever holding you back, you're going to get eaten alive in adult.

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For sure!

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Spot on mate.

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