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Best Mobile Networks That Use Cake? (12)

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Today I sent 19k clicks to mobile app installs in 7 different countries (10 different offers) in a network using Hasoffers. I got 23 conversions only.

I spent $250 on traffic, got $7.50 back in conversions. Thing is all of the conversions came from Brazil. Then once I clicked to see the other countries' offers, I went to a blank page. I noticed some tracking domains were not working. I even asked a friend in the US to test some links, and these links didn't worked for him.

And this night once I tried to see Brazil's links, they were not working anymore. And I tested another network that uses Hasoffers, and this Brazilian offer link didn't worked.

I was doing really well with these 2 networks, and affiliate managers are really very helpful and responsive, so I won't judge the networks, and I definetly want to work with them again soon (I signed up with them referred by some STM gurus, so you know they're good).

But for now, as I learn mobile, I few more comfortable with Cake. Never had any issues with any network using it. So could you please tell me some really good networks that are good for mobile and that use Cake? It's even better if it is dedicated to mobile only (but not required).

Thank you.

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I can vouch for ClickDealer and Adsimilis!

Great AMs and they both run on Cake.

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What networks were these?

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You probably couldn't view the offers because of geo redirect

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Shouldn't be a problem with Hasoffers. Which network was it?
As for networks using Cake, there are a ton. I think you should solve the problem first.

Whats the click discrepancy between the traffic source and your tracker? And then from the tracker to your network?

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I didn't said which networks were to avoid prejudicing them, because I don't know yet if the problem is with them. PM servandosilva and lanza123 with answer btw.

@servandosilva

Yes. I'm waiting a contact from my aff managers.

I'm direct linking (using Appetiser). Conversions numbers are same in Networks and in Decisive.

Here are some numbers:

Russia Wifi App >>> 2,343 clicks >>> 0 conversions (UC Browser)
Russia Wifi Site >>> 3,269 clicks >>> 0 conversions (UC Browser)

Brazil Wifi App >>> 575 clicks >>> 7 conversions (Du Speed Booster)
Brazil Wifi Site >>> 927 clicks >>> 5 conversions (Du Speed Booster)

Sweden Wifi App >>> 1,045 clicks >>> 0 conversions (Go Launcher)
Sweden Wifi Site >>> 3,534 clicks >>> 0 conversions (Go Launcher)

For Russia I actually sent over 12,000 clicks counting this and other campaigns. Got 0 conversions. Double checked the links. They were same I got from networks.

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Ok time for a reality check; and sorry in advance if any of this comes across as harsh. It's nothing personal against you and I assure you that I've made the same mistakes when I first ventured into mobile marketing and also affiliate marketing in general. What mistake am I referring to? The one where you blame everyone and everything else for a failed campaign, when in reality the fault lies with solely with you. You're doing this because you're just starting out and you don't know better; but trust me it gets better with more time and experience under your belt.

The fact that you unsuccessfully sent 19k clicks to several offers spread out across several different countries, connection types, and ad mediums does not mean that there is a problem with cpa networks that use Hasoffers; and it also does not mean that there is necessarily a problem with the network or offer(s) in question. What's more likely is that you don't know how to run these campaigns and out of frustration from your bad results you're taking the easiest way out by blaming the first link in the chain.

Also just fyi, 19k clicks doesn't mean shit in mobile, and writing off a major/popular cpa network and/or tracking platform is probably the last thing you should be doing right now.


Moving to a network that uses Cake will not solve your problem. I'd bet my left nut on that, and probably my right one too. Although there are a lot of great networks that use Cake, if you run your CPI campaigns the same way you mentioned above, I can guarantee that you'll get the same results.


* This one comes even before #1 because it's the most obvious mistake you made. Did you split test the same offer from a different network? When first testing a campaign you should always have at least 2-3 offer links from different networks. With that being said, I'm highly confident that this would not have made any difference in your results. More on that now:

1) Direct linking UC Browser, DU Browser, and the various launcher offers is a big no no. For an initial test fine, but nothing more than that please. You can make it work but you'll have MUCH MUCH MUCH more success if you use a landing page; and make sure it's a good one! From this moment forward if you don't use a landing page consider every cent you spend as money going down the drain.....

2) Why in god's name are you not testing carrier traffic? Or did you mislabel your stats above? You can get these offers to work with wifi but more often than not wifi bombs a lot of the time. Also by any chance did you only set up wifi campaigns because the suggested click/cpm price was much cheaper than carrier traffic? Don't fall into this trap. I've bid as much as 5x or higher on carrier traffic and still made money. Wifi traffic is cheaper for a reason.........

3) Why did you stop your Brazil campaign so soon? If you kept your bids low (as you should always do for initial tests on wifi traffic) it looks like you would have been okay. What were you bidding? Is your CPA too high? Honestly speaking, 500 - 1000 clicks is not enough data to make any definitive judgments about the success or failure of a campaign, much less the credibility/quality of an offer, tracking platform, or affiliate network.

4) Did you look at the app id's for your Russian and Swedish campaigns? I bet you have a small handful of apps in each country that sucked up most of your budget. Russian traffic can be especially tricky depending on the ad format and network..... You need to be on top of the bad app id's, especially since you're running low payout offers.

5) Some campaigns are just going to bomb no matter what you do. It could be the country, offer, ad format, ad network, somebody with a voodoo doll replica of you on the other side of the world, device type, device manufacturer, connection type, etc., etc., etc....... In your case you can't blame any of these. You need to go back to the very first steps and rethink and recraft your entire campaign.

You just need to keep chugging along; and from here on out and please refrain from even entertaining the thought that it's some outside force or factor that's causing your campaigns to fail. It's your campaign so accept 100% responsibility for it. Trust me, in the beginning when my campaigns failed or shit hit the fan it I was probably worst than 99% of you out there. Just like you I'd blame everything and everybody else. Here's some of my highlights:

- fuck CPA network XXXX their offers don't convert
- fuck ad network XXXX their traffic sucks
- fuck tracker XXXX I'm switching to tracker ZZZZ and then I'm sure I'll see conversions
- fuck AM XXXX they must have ripped my campaign
- fuck unknown affiliate XXXX for ripping my campaign

100% of the time my paranoia was unfounded and quite ridiculous. Btw, I rarely have these thoughts anymore but when I do I try to be rational about it, which usually helps to bring things into proper perspective.


Just fyi, most CPI offer links are a BIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITCH to access; even when using a VPN and accessing the link from the proper country. A lot of the ad networks I run with can't even access the links lol. So therefore I never even bother to check offer links anymore (with my proven go-to cpa networks). Don't beat yourself up over not being able to get to the google play store page. If it's a major network and a big offer like UC Browser, DU Speed Boost, etc., chances are that other people are running it and the link works just fine. Just make sure to set your initial daily spend cap to something low and also make sure to split test offers from different networks.

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I'm having this issue right now, do you just send the ad networks to the google play store for approval instead? Then switch the links after approval?

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Not to the the Google Play Store homepage, but rather the Google Play Store page for that particular app. So let's say you're running UC Browser and they can't access the link; then they're going to want to see a page like this: https://play.google.com/store/apps/d....UCMobile.intl

If this is a common issue with that particular offer and ad network (it almost always is) then it's up to you whether you want to show them that page from the get go, or whether you want to wait for the first campaign disapproval email......

If you know your tracker and its functions like the back of your hand, and make use of them accordingly, campaign disapproval emails will be few and far between.

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Can you read the future? You'd won this bet. It was EXACTLY what happened today: 6k clicks to an offer in a network using Cake. US UK ZA. CPI. 0 conversions.

So problem was not Hasoffers.

* No. Lesson learned.

1) Lesson learned.

2) I was testing Wifi because it had the highest volume. Will use carriers.

3) I actually was testing sending $10-$20 to each campaign to see which offers were doing well. And I was also bidding high (higher than Decisive average) traffic came in a few minutes. It's the best country so far in mobile venture. On top of that, I'm from BR (it can means more angles/more spy opportunity) so I think I should stick to it?

4) What do you mean by App ID? I tested 3 apps for RU and 1 for SE. Right again, they spent 70% of money together. No conversions from those 2 countries.

Awesome. Took the day to rethink mobile campaigns, make landing pages, learn about tracking and read your posting. Thanks man.

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Ah ok I see. From here on out try testing both wifi and carrier. It's a little bit more work to set up the extra campaigns but the payoff is usually worth it. If you want to target countries with more carrier traffic the general rule of thumb is the larger a country's population, the more traffic they probably have. Note that this will vary by ad network, country, and ad format.

If I were you I'd definitely stick with Brazil for now. You being native to the region is a huge advantage, and also Brazil has a huge population so there's plenty of room to scale; and also lots and lots of nice offers available!

Also as far as bids go, if it's a new country, ad network, or ad format, don't be afraid to set up campaigns at multiple bid levels. I forgot where it is but Mr. Green made a good post about this somewhere in the mobile forum. At the very worst if takes a few extra minutes to set up the campaigns; but you can save a lot of money doing this. I usually only bid higher when I "know" the traffic and/or I have a proven campaign or offer and I want data a bit faster. In your case you still have a lot to learn so I'd take it slow and try to make sense of everything before spending more on traffic.

Ah, you're probably running on Decisive and bidding on single apps....... App ID = App. I do mostly RON testing (testing thousands of apps per campaign) so I don't really focus too much on individual apps in the beginning. With that being said, in your case I would probably only test an app for maybe 3 - 5x offer payout price per campaign. So for instance, If you don't see conversion by then it's probably not going to work. For your Sweden campaigns, since go launcher has such a low payout I would have cut them at $1 - $2 ad spend; Russia around maybe $2 - $5. You spent way to much on a single app...... For apps that are going to work you'll usually see multiple conversions within the first $1 spend. Definitely check out Caurman's posts on statistical signicficance; he explains it 100x more clearly than I can.

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Boom!

Thanks for the massive info drop zero!

Every newbie should read this thread and that post because this situation is something that most people go through with mobile traffic.

One for the newsletter for sure!

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