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11-28-2014 06:59 PM #1 webdev (Member)
How to build a team?

I couldn't find any tutorials on how to go about hiring people who are available for you to do a job when you need them online? I find the whole process of adding a job then finding a suitable person to work on your project on freelancing websites tiresome. I want to be able to build a team of designers and a writers who can work together and work exclusively for me and I can manage their work virtually.

Where do I start looking?

11-28-2014 07:21 PM #2 gameover591 (Member)

I would hire a VA/Recruiter to hire and manage staff. I am sure someone on Odesk or Elance can do something like this at a very low hourly rate.

11-28-2014 07:58 PM #3 DaveYount (Member)

You should talk to Attila! (IamAttila)

http://iamattila.com/cool-shiznitz/s...uying-team.php

11-28-2014 09:50 PM #4 stackman (Administrator)

1. It's HARD work managing a team of outsourced employees. There's no easy way around that.

Start with:
http://easyoutsource.com/

Hire a bunch of people for simple tasks and keep the good guys. That's the best way to start.

Hire 1 at a time, and slowly introduce them to eachother.

11-28-2014 10:57 PM #5 Mr Green (Administrator)

Bbrock32's speech in Bangkok covers every step of the outsourcing process!

11-29-2014 12:53 AM #6 webdev (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by DaveYount View Post
You should talk to Attila! (IamAttila)

http://iamattila.com/cool-shiznitz/s...uying-team.php
Wow really inspiring. You need balls to take that kind of risk if even you have cash. I guess once you get started like he did with mindset of not failing, you will get it right eventually.

Yes, hiring online and managing online is a pain. It only works for small one time jobs. I think hiring locally and have them come to your office to work is the way to go.

I need to ask IamAttila how he finds people? Kijiji?

12-01-2014 04:06 AM #7 John Jonas (Senior Member)

One way to build a great team (if you've hired freelancers before) is to keep track of the good ones. And once you have enough work for them, offer them full-time jobs.

That way you already know how well they work, they're already familiar with what you're like as a boss and you'd have some experience with how to manage them.

12-01-2014 04:12 AM #8 maynzie (Moderator)

http://iamattila.com/cool-shiznitz/s...uying-team.php

When I ran Clean Master global for example, I had 4 guys setting up Clean Master in every single geo, in every single banner size, in every single language. We had over 5000 campaigns up in 24 hours! I’d love to see a one man army do that
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12-01-2014 05:29 AM #9 angry old lady (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by maynzie View Post
http://iamattila.com/cool-shiznitz/s...uying-team.php



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my mouse hand hurt just reading that. holy

12-01-2014 07:52 AM #10 nt2000 (Member)

This thread has changed my approach to AM.

It's confirmed a few things mainly that doing this as a one-man army can only get you so far - possibly not very. You need either a partner or a team. Being a master at all the skills required to be successful is a flawed long-term strategy unless you know it is and have a plan.

I've realised one of my bottlenecks is creating banners and landers FAST. Whether a newbie likes it or not we're in competition with other newbies AND the PROs.

I'm going to try using outsourcers for the banners and landers.

12-01-2014 12:35 PM #11 bbrock32 (Administrator)

^ This business is changing fast and competition adapts quickly.
It's and evolve or die situation

12-01-2014 01:18 PM #12 webdev (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by bbrock32 View Post
^ This business is changing fast and competition adapts quickly.
It's and evolve or die situation
It was competitive in 2001 with ebay and then in 2005 with ring tones and it's the same today. There will always be opportunities for newbies to come and shine.

I don't believe that to make a decent coin in this business you have a to have a team or a partner. With decent I mean 2k to 3k a day on your own. You need a team if you want to create a long lasting business with good consistent turn around year after year.

12-01-2014 01:33 PM #13 HenryW (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by gameover591 View Post
I would hire a VA/Recruiter to hire and manage staff. I am sure someone on Odesk or Elance can do something like this at a very low hourly rate.
Funny mentioning Odesk, I used to be 'one of those' hired through Odesk as a free-lance writer working in public relations and other content and you learn a lot about how to manage people through the way you're managed.

That said, finding people to be part of your team and KEEPING them are two different things - it's can be very easy to find people that fit the structure you've got in place, but keeping them engaged and on board can be a whole different ball-game.

IF you're going to be outsourcing then make sure you're:
- Paying a fair rate
- Keeping your employee engaged
- Following up
- Setting realistic targets
- Showing your appreciation

Treating your VA or outsourced help with decency and as an actual human being can go a long way in keeping them on your side and productive for you and your business.

12-01-2014 04:10 PM #14 maweniaran (Member)

Is there any link to all the speeches from the STM meetup in Bangkok? Haven't found it anywhere. Thanks

12-01-2014 04:36 PM #15 Mr Green (Administrator)

Quote Originally Posted by maweniaran View Post
Is there any link to all the speeches from the STM meetup in Bangkok? Haven't found it anywhere. Thanks
Here you go http://stmforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=15084

12-02-2014 12:07 PM #16 nt2000 (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by webdev View Post
It was competitive in 2001 with ebay and then in 2005 with ring tones and it's the same today. There will always be opportunities for newbies to come and shine.

I don't believe that to make a decent coin in this business you have a to have a team or a partner. With decent I mean 2k to 3k a day on your own. You need a team if you want to create a long lasting business with good consistent turn around year after year.
2/3k per day is not to be sniffed at for sure. I'm sure any newbie would be happy with that.

Maybe I'm trying to run before I can walk as I haven't even hit a profitble campaign on my own. But problem solving 101, root cause of my current problem is I can't launch enough campaigns fast enough so either I spend time learning photoshop or I spend time/money getting an expert to make everything. I've got too many things to get good at to learn photoshop.

Which leads me to, how much direction do you give outsourcers in the very beginning? For banners: give sizes, frames and general look and feel? or more specific and tell them make variations? Is it the same with landers, give them an overview then ask them to rejig in as many variations?

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