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10-18-2014 02:11 PM #1 acepowermarketing (AMC Alumnus)
Shared hosting vs vps

Anyone did tests before to tell the difference? How much worse is shared hosting?

10-18-2014 02:31 PM #2 bbrock32 (Administrator)

Much much worse.

Avoid like the plague if you are serious into AM.

10-18-2014 03:03 PM #3 codexmal (Member)

It's like trying to start a racing team while riding the city bus.

10-18-2014 05:04 PM #4 acepowermarketing (AMC Alumnus)

even a cdn like maxcdn to serve the landers wouldnt save it?

10-18-2014 07:24 PM #5 fastlaner (Member)

Hey mon here's the best analogy I found..

Shared Hosting is Like an Apartment Complex. You are sharing the resources with everyone.
VPS Hosting is like owning a Condo. You are allotted resources but not shared by everyone.
Dedicated Hosting is like owning your own House. You have access to all the resources on the machine.

Choose Wisely

10-18-2014 08:13 PM #6 zeno (Administrator)

Quote Originally Posted by xavierfok View Post
even a cdn like maxcdn to serve the landers wouldnt save it?
No.

In most cases, shared hosting is fundamentally inappropriate for the things you want to do as an affiliate marketer.

A VPS is technically a type of shared hosting in that you have compartmentalised resources from a larger system that are shared with many other VPS.

But the type of hosting 'shared hosting' usually refers to is worse. You don't share resources at the hardware level, you share them at the OS level. And in any case, do you have root access? Can you make system-level modifications? Change PHP/MySQL/etc. configurations? Reboot the server? No. And this makes it unsuitable, even if it was on the fastest supercomputer in the world with 1 ms latency to everyone on the planet and a 1,000,000,000 TBit uplink to every city in the world.

Shared hosting has no place in any industry where performance matters.

10-18-2014 08:23 PM #7 panicore (Member)

The best thing about a VPS is you can scale it whenever your campaigns start to get big.

10-18-2014 09:11 PM #8 acepowermarketing (AMC Alumnus)

Quote Originally Posted by zeno View Post
No.

In most cases, shared hosting is fundamentally inappropriate for the things you want to do as an affiliate marketer.

A VPS is technically a type of shared hosting in that you have compartmentalised resources from a larger system that are shared with many other VPS.

But the type of hosting 'shared hosting' usually refers to is worse. You don't share resources at the hardware level, you share them at the OS level. And in any case, do you have root access? Can you make system-level modifications? Change PHP/MySQL/etc. configurations? Reboot the server? No. And this makes it unsuitable, even if it was on the fastest supercomputer in the world with 1 ms latency to everyone on the planet and a 1,000,000,000 TBit uplink to every city in the world.

Shared hosting has no place in any industry where performance matters.
I'm already in the process of migrating to a vps server. What do you mean by system level changes? I'm using simple ripped landers, why do I need to make this modifications? Why would I need root access?

10-18-2014 09:12 PM #9 acepowermarketing (AMC Alumnus)

Quote Originally Posted by panicore View Post
The best thing about a VPS is you can scale it whenever your campaigns start to get big.

How big is big? 10k clicks daily? 100k?

10-18-2014 09:31 PM #10 bbrock32 (Administrator)

Quote Originally Posted by xavierfok View Post
How big is big? 10k clicks daily? 100k?
Even up to 500k per day if you get a really good VPS.

10-18-2014 09:33 PM #11 acepowermarketing (AMC Alumnus)

I was sending 100k to shared hosting lols!

10-18-2014 10:54 PM #12 dennis (Member)

And never noticed any clickloss? (suspicous low CTR)?
A VPS is a part of the foundation that you need for serious internet marketing.
If you can't pay a few bucks for a decent VPS, than just stay away from AM all...

10-19-2014 03:11 AM #13 zeno (Administrator)

Quote Originally Posted by xavierfok View Post
I was sending 100k to shared hosting lols!
Sweet jesus dude!

As for modifications and root access etc., be aware that there are plenty of things you'd do on your server that need this.

Imagine I gave you a home workstation PC. Everything's going fine but then you want to install Photoshop. You try > screen pops up with an admin access notice and needs credentials > you can't install Photoshop. You ring me and say hey, I need admin access, and I answer "Why?". Because I want to install Photoshop. "Why?". To do design work. "Just use Gimp Portable, we can't let you install software that will effect everyone who uses the computer". Fuckkkkkk

There are literally 100s of situations where you will need root access to your server and it's OS. Installing a new tracking system > need to install pre-requisites. Server goes down and needs to be rebooted. Need to tweak PHP/MySQL etc. config for performance because it's dropping connections. Want to add domains/virtual hosts and not using cPanel because it sucks (sorry cPanel fans).

Even if all you are doing is hosting landers, you would want to optimise your stack to be as fast as possible, add headers for caching purposes, add SSL functionality if needed, etc.

10-19-2014 04:31 AM #14 acepowermarketing (AMC Alumnus)

Quote Originally Posted by dennis View Post
And never noticed any clickloss? (suspicous low CTR)?
A VPS is a part of the foundation that you need for serious internet marketing.
If you can't pay a few bucks for a decent VPS, than just stay away from AM all...
I'm pretty bad at details... So by the time I took notice I was already over loading it I guess? I thought the drop in ctr was due to banner blindness. But it couldn't happen within 24 hours right?

10-21-2014 09:57 AM #15 caurmen (Administrator)

@xavierfok - if you're running enough traffic to a shared host to slow it down, the drop in CTR will happen instantly.

10-21-2014 10:51 AM #16 acepowermarketing (AMC Alumnus)

Quote Originally Posted by caurmen View Post
@xavierfok - if you're running enough traffic to a shared host to slow it down, the drop in CTR will happen instantly.
how much drop are we talking about here? from 45% to??? 30%? i have drops from 47% to 43% so i did not really take notice, since i expected it to vary over time and drop.

10-21-2014 04:01 PM #17 caurmen (Administrator)

@xavier - Depends on how slow your server is. If it's slowing down enough, a drop of 90% or more would not be unprecedented.

You may find this post interesting: http://stmforum.com/forum/showthread...hlight=loading

10-21-2014 05:54 PM #18 acepowermarketing (AMC Alumnus)

thank you so much for the response, just wondering, how fast can a simple mobile lander be? im currently loading it in 0.6 seconds through a singapore connection, could it be any faster?

10-22-2014 06:05 AM #19 zeno (Administrator)

Quote Originally Posted by xavierfok View Post
thank you so much for the response, just wondering, how fast can a simple mobile lander be? im currently loading it in 0.6 seconds through a singapore connection, could it be any faster?
You'll be limited by network latency. Singapore to US (Dallas for example) latency is probably on the order of 200 ms, so 600 ms isn't too bad. Ideally lower - use a CDN where possible for the page and/or all static page content (images, CSS, JS).

10-23-2014 11:48 PM #20 Vrume (Senior Member)

Not to offend any here that utilize shared hosting but if you're going to start getting serious and driving hundreds of thousands if not millions of impressions daily. You really need to invest in some decent hardware to support your business. If anyone needs a good recommendation for a hosting company that provides great (and managed support) please pm me. Happy to put you in touch with the guys i have utilized for 8+ years.

11-20-2014 01:43 PM #21 BeyondHosting-Tyler (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by bbrock32 View Post
Even up to 500k per day if you get a really good VPS.
I just helped a customer the other day doing 8000 clicks a minute on our VPS4096. Thats 500k/hr.

Litespeed and our VPS4096

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