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10-17-2014 08:08 AM #1 mathaw (Member)
Mails - Send - what is the best way for scan mails ??

Hi , I scan 20,000 mails for the web , I would like to send mails to all the user, , what is the best way to do it ? appreciate any help...
are there any costs ??


10-17-2014 08:22 AM #2 zeno (Administrator)

Did these addresses come from users willingly?

Or do you mean you scraped email address from various web pages and so on?

Uhh in the latter case, if you emailed them, you realise that's spamming and there are harsh penalties right?

I would steer very well clear of that. You will also find it hard to get those emails delivered, as services like MailChimp, GetResponse will boot you in seconds if you're spamming - assuming you can even get the lists there in the first place.

If you did collect them legitimately, then use something like MailChimp, GetResponse, iContact, aWeber, etc. If you didn't collect the emails through one of these services initially, didn't opt-in properly, etc., you will have a really tough time.

And yes there will be costs. Internet marketing isn't free.


10-17-2014 08:35 AM #3 mathaw (Member)

Hi Zeno... yes scraped email address from various web pages
how can I legitimately ?? whnat is the best way to act here in this case ??


10-17-2014 08:55 AM #4 virosh (Member)

data hygiene services or just test bounce% yourself with throwaway SMTPs


10-17-2014 09:11 AM #5 mathaw (Member)

Tnx Virosh... do you know any data hygiene services online ??


10-17-2014 10:09 AM #6 cloudf (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by mathaw View Post
Tnx Virosh... do you know any data hygiene services online ??
Try http://impressionwise.com/


10-17-2014 10:57 AM #7 dalhaze (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by cloudf View Post
Impressionwise Doesn't filter hard bounces, they just do spam traps. I'd recommend siftlogic to filter your hard bounces.

It is more than likely cost prohibitive to pay for hard bounce removal unless those scraped emails are targeted though.


10-17-2014 12:22 PM #8 mathaw (Member)

how can do hard bounce removal?


10-18-2014 01:00 PM #9 dalhaze (Member)

Siftlogic or other data verification services, or mail to them yourself


10-19-2014 07:21 AM #10 zeno (Administrator)

I'm an email noob.

So, can someone enlighten me on how data hygiene (list sanitising?) services work when you have scraped addressees, have no opt-ins, etc.

Do you ping people > check for responses and only keep the active/responding recipients? In this case, I take it you'd still need to use delivery services that are happy to send out emails to people without opt-ins -- and I imagine they kick you post-delivery when you have high bounce rates (hence the initial cleaning)?


10-27-2014 12:47 PM #11 dalhaze (Member)

Zeno,

It is called a hard bounce, your servers get a SMTP response code that will tell your server that the email no longer exists and you then use that hard bounce list to purge your list.

The number of hard bounces you get is a fairly clear indicator of your mailing practices, because if you mailed your list regularly your list would never get above a 1-3% hard bounce rate.

Data hygiene service primarily filter out bounces, but some of the data agencies have enough data that they do other things such as pull only email that are known consumers, or remove emails that are known to complain amongst other things.

The reason you sometimes have to work with a hygiene company is if your bounce rate is high (10-40%+) then your own servers will start getting deferred, which means you can't even get SMTP response codes to clean your data, they are pretty much saying "whoa buddy, your data sucks so back off"


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