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09-16-2014 07:08 AM #1 iAmAttila (Veteran Member)
[Pure Brute Force!] How to Run a Campaign, Find the Winners - FAST & EFFICIENTLY

[Quick, Straight To The Point, NO BS]*

From time and time again I see affiliates making the mistake that they test a geo/offer and if it doesn't work give up and say meh, affiliate marketing isn't for me.

Well let me show you how I run a campaign to get the maximum impact in the fastest time frame so I can bank HARD!

See what you can do as well to hit*a geo with many offers at once, using various angles, collect data and let it tell you which Angle (in this example case Browser Offer) is the BEST in that geo, so you can spend time horizontally scaling that fast and get to 1k+ a day profit FAST! Remember, BIG IMPACT, responding fast, and doing things efficient is key!

So this is what I do, and what you can do too.

Step 1) Decide what offer I want to promote

I decided on browser offers (DU Browser, UcWeb, *Dolphin, etc)

Step 2) Come up with GENERIC angles that work for ALL the browser offers out there

Step 3) Offer recon, see which one of my existing networks have browser offers and write them down in a table

using the following format

Network, Offer ID, Name, Payout, Tracking URL

here is a screenshot of my 'homework' *- NOTE:*I Hid the CPA Networks but if you want to know what they are contact me and I'll be happy to share - They don't accept just anyone at these Networks so that's why I need to talk to you to see if I can vouch for you or not! Thx for understanding

As you can see the payouts are up and down from network to network, I don't look at the payouts - I am after the highest CR! Sometimes a network that pays you 20 cents per install will have a better CR than one that pays you 30 cents for the same thing! So in the end the EPV/EPC for the one with the least payout will be HIGHER than the one with the HIGH payout. So again, I don't pre-judge or select based on payouts, I run some data and let the [data] do the talking!



Step 4) Organize stuff by GEO

I then take all the browser offers, organize them by geo on another spreadsheet. You might be wondering, what is the point behind all of this?

Simple answer: I want maximum impact, so I'm going to test every single browser offer available (different brand browser offers & same browser offer on different networks) under my test campaigns in a split test.

So some geos might have 8 different offers being split tested.

Here's how it looks like when done


Step 5) Look at the data after significant [data] has been collected, pick the winning offers, pause the losers and optimize from there. *

Hope that was educational, *I wanted to show you something quick that I use every single time I launch a new offer. *When I started doing it that way many months ago is when I started pushing $xxx,xxx revenue a month! * * *Get on the bandwagon of properly launching campaigns now and you too can make $1000+ profit per day!


09-16-2014 07:47 AM #2 acepowermarketing (AMC Alumnus)

how do u come up with working angles? the site anglesaurus is not working yet. research using vpn? any other alternative? any system like the one u just showed for testing angles? how to select the few angles like you did with offers?


09-16-2014 07:49 AM #3 andyvon (AMC Alumnus)

great post. a little bit of solid planning like this can go a long way and shouldn't be neglected because of the usual "just take action brah" mentality.


09-16-2014 03:15 PM #4 caurmen (Administrator)

There are lots of good posts on STM about angles and angle creation - here are a few to start with:

http://stmforum.com/forum/showthread...ghlight=angles
http://stmforum.com/forum/showthread...l=1#post132722
http://stmforum.com/forum/showthread...ghlight=angles
http://stmforum.com/forum/showthread...ghlight=angles

I'll be putting together an index on angles soon!


09-16-2014 06:42 PM #5 AffMaverick (Member)

Nice post Attila! 2 questions: How many banners do you create for each offer, and are you using landing pages or direct linking.


09-16-2014 06:58 PM #6 wealthy (Member)

awesome post as usual mate


09-16-2014 06:59 PM #7 iAmAttila (Veteran Member)

Quote Originally Posted by Cash Cowboy View Post
Nice post Attila! 2 questions: How many banners do you create for each offer, and are you using landing pages or direct linking.
5 to 10 banners that look different totally

on some sources direct, on some sources with landers
it always depends on traffic source

since CPI is all i do, i already know on what traff source i need to use landers, and where its ok to just DL


09-16-2014 07:38 PM #8 lior_o_o (Member)

thanks man this is really helpful , you start just with direct linking to collect data and to see who have potential and just after you find some winners you are starting with landing and more angels right?
EDIT : nvm didn't see the post above me


09-16-2014 07:41 PM #9 12as26 (Member)

all that is fine, but where actually to buy traffic for CPI offers is the real brute force


09-16-2014 07:55 PM #10 quantum27 (Member)

How much would you expect to spend on testing all these offers and geos?

Also, you say you only do CPI? Have you looked at:
- PIN submits, sweepstakes
- Mobile adult
- APK downloads and other non Google Play CPIs?


09-16-2014 08:09 PM #11 iAmAttila (Veteran Member)

Quote Originally Posted by quantum27 View Post
How much would you expect to spend on testing all these offers and geos?

Also, you say you only do CPI? Have you looked at:
- PIN submits, sweepstakes
- Mobile adult
- APK downloads and other non Google Play CPIs?
I only do itunes and gplay and apk. I attribute my success to focusing on this vertical and mastering it like a badass wow player.

I spend offer payout x2 per banner and 2x per lander

So if i was testing 3 offers id multiple the above by 3

Btw less data might be enough but jumping to conclusions too early and cutting creatives could leave a lot of potential $$ on the table.


09-16-2014 08:10 PM #12 iAmAttila (Veteran Member)

Quote Originally Posted by 12as26 View Post
all that is fine, but where actually to buy traffic for CPI offers is the real brute force
If u made an android app where would you go to monetize your app?

Find the answer to that and start buying traffic there


09-16-2014 08:53 PM #13 quantum27 (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by iAmAttila View Post
If u made an android app where would you go to monetize your app?

Find the answer to that and start buying traffic there
So you prefer to pick placements vs going RON?


09-16-2014 11:40 PM #14 maynzie (Moderator)

Another great post here, setting up a KISS approach to leading up to launching campaigns is vital for consistent flow thanks Attilllaa!


01-18-2015 09:11 AM #15 vaalion (Member)

thanks Attila, love your stuff


01-18-2015 05:26 PM #16 Gabreeze (Member)

Great post


01-19-2015 03:32 PM #17 dlegia (Member)

great info here
thank Attila


03-30-2015 07:10 PM #18 estoninator (Member)

Awesome post Attila! Thanks!

I've found a similar post by stackman and I really like the idea, so I'm going to try to do a nice batch offer test.

The problem I run into is this: How/where do you find or think of "generic" angles?

That idea makes a lot of scenes to me, I would like to apply a bad but CONSISTENT angle to all my offers, thus allowing me to change one variable at a time. So I'm just curious how you go about getting/coming up with your generic angles. Thanks again for the great post!


03-31-2015 07:23 AM #19 bbrock32 (Administrator)

^ Replied on your other thread


03-31-2015 09:05 AM #20 stackman (Administrator)

Quote Originally Posted by xavierfok View Post
how do u come up with working angles? the site anglesaurus is not working yet. research using vpn? any other alternative? any system like the one u just showed for testing angles? how to select the few angles like you did with offers?
The anglesaurus doesn't exist because an angle is essentially an advantage you have on others, and if there was a 1 stop shop for angles, then it wouldn't be an advantageous angle.

Angle's come from browsing the internet in niches similar to yours and thinking what can you do different.

Also as proven by BBrock in a case study in 2014, you can make a survey website as a $100 campaign. With that $100 you can have your target marget choose their biggest issues/pain point with X topic and then make angles based on that!


04-22-2015 03:14 AM #21 kingrichards (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by iAmAttila View Post
[Quick, Straight To The Point, NO BS]*

From time and time again I see affiliates making the mistake that they test a geo/offer and if it doesn't work give up and say meh, affiliate marketing isn't for me.

Well let me show you how I run a campaign to get the maximum impact in the fastest time frame so I can bank HARD!

See what you can do as well to hit*a geo with many offers at once, using various angles, collect data and let it tell you which Angle (in this example case Browser Offer) is the BEST in that geo, so you can spend time horizontally scaling that fast and get to 1k+ a day profit FAST! Remember, BIG IMPACT, responding fast, and doing things efficient is key!

So this is what I do, and what you can do too.

Step 1) Decide what offer I want to promote

I decided on browser offers (DU Browser, UcWeb, *Dolphin, etc)

Step 2) Come up with GENERIC angles that work for ALL the browser offers out there

Step 3) Offer recon, see which one of my existing networks have browser offers and write them down in a table

using the following format

Network, Offer ID, Name, Payout, Tracking URL

here is a screenshot of my 'homework' *- NOTE:*I Hid the CPA Networks but if you want to know what they are contact me and I'll be happy to share - They don't accept just anyone at these Networks so that's why I need to talk to you to see if I can vouch for you or not! Thx for understanding

As you can see the payouts are up and down from network to network, I don't look at the payouts - I am after the highest CR! Sometimes a network that pays you 20 cents per install will have a better CR than one that pays you 30 cents for the same thing! So in the end the EPV/EPC for the one with the least payout will be HIGHER than the one with the HIGH payout. So again, I don't pre-judge or select based on payouts, I run some data and let the [data] do the talking!



Step 4) Organize stuff by GEO

I then take all the browser offers, organize them by geo on another spreadsheet. You might be wondering, what is the point behind all of this?

Simple answer: I want maximum impact, so I'm going to test every single browser offer available (different brand browser offers & same browser offer on different networks) under my test campaigns in a split test.

So some geos might have 8 different offers being split tested.

Here's how it looks like when done


Step 5) Look at the data after significant [data] has been collected, pick the winning offers, pause the losers and optimize from there. *

Hope that was educational, *I wanted to show you something quick that I use every single time I launch a new offer. *When I started doing it that way many months ago is when I started pushing $xxx,xxx revenue a month! * * *Get on the bandwagon of properly launching campaigns now and you too can make $1000+ profit per day!

Hello i just curios do you wait for ALL of the banners are done and Launched all of the campaigns in the same time?

Or do you just launched them one by one? The reason I ask is because with all of the translations and prepping it could take a bit of time.

So just like to know how you do yours? I am thinking all in the same time for organizations but also one by one so you're not wasting time is also good,,

Please shine some light on this particular part? I would really appreciated sir!


04-22-2015 07:06 AM #22 mauluc (Member)

hi Attila, nice info. I'd like to know how you organize all this campaign in Voluum. Do you have 2 campaigns one for dl and one for landing with multiple offers split tested inside each one ?


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