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08-30-2014 09:15 AM #1 lanbau (Member)
Go Mobile == stack that money, retire before 30, upgrade to a SLS AMG & Chill

Hello STM. this is my first ever follow along. And Yes I want to stack that money, retire before 30, upgrade to a SLS AMG (approx SGD$700,000) & Chill.
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thanks to caurmen for his Appetiser tutorial - clean cut & so straight to the point that it got me started.

Here are the details.

Offer
1. [WAP] Mobogenie direct download
2. Payout = $0.45
3. Country = BR
4. Angle = "Can't install Apps From Google Play Store?"
5. 4 Campaigns
-WIFI & Site
-WIFI & APP
-MOBILE & SITE
-MOBILE & APP

6. Smart CPM
- 1.5x 0.45(Payout) = 0.675
- Unlimited Budget
- Max Daily = $8

7. Traffic Source: Decisive

Here are the 8 banners that was uploaded.

Banners are non-animated & fugly?
(I just saw Mr Green's animated tutorial - will be doing that next)

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Current:
- Awaiting Approval
- Need some advice on my banners. I don't know if it's ugly enough?
- Is the offer already saturated?

Thanks guys.


08-30-2014 11:22 AM #2 constantin (Member)

reupload your banners as pics not attachments. way too annoying to click all those.

also, yes those are quite ugly.


08-30-2014 11:36 AM #3 Alexandre Moura (Member)

Also, your translation have a lot of wrong sentences. DO you use Google Translator ? If yes, stop using GT and use one service like http://onehourtranslation.com


08-30-2014 11:41 AM #4 atom64 ()

even the translation failed you should test it anyway, lets see how this convert


08-30-2014 01:53 PM #5 lanbau (Member)

yeah i used Google Translate. Reason is because stackman mentioned that google translate is better than proper translations. But of course, i will take your advice and try onehourtranslation after going through the whole process with these banners haha.

Sorry about the banner links. I copied and pasted a previous misplaced thread.

Here are the banners for those who want to view them

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08-30-2014 02:13 PM #6 afernald (Member)

Looking forward to seeing how this goes!


08-30-2014 02:37 PM #7 lior_o_o (Member)

wtf this car looks like Batman's car good luck bro


08-30-2014 03:34 PM #8 Alexandre Moura (Member)

So you will try run the campaign with those banners ? One word: you will put ur money direclty on trash. If you got any conversions is an miracle.

I'm brazilian so i will help u out with correct sentences cause if you run this banner man, 99% of the brazilian ppl will read this and think 'WTF? Some moron write this?', but next time in your creatives use onehourtranslation services. Also i see a lot of 'Install' an english word, so you are writing an CTA button with english and ur target speak portuguese. Also i really don't like your angle but this is just my opinion.

1 - Problemas Na Instalação de Aplicativos? Experimente uma maneira mais fácil.
2 - Baixar Aplicativos Mais Rápido - Instalar
3 - Download de Aplicativos Mais Rápido - Instalar
4 -Não Consegue Instalar Aplicativos ? Instalar -
5 - Aplicativos Mais Rápidos - Instalar
6 - Instalação.. Conheça a Melhor Maneira de Instalar Aplicativos
7 - Aplicativos Mais Rápidos Aqui - Instalar
8 - Aplicativos Mais Rápidos Aqui - Instalar

Just my 2c.


08-30-2014 04:33 PM #9 lanbau (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by Alexandre Moura View Post
So you will try run the campaign with those banners ? One word: you will put ur money direclty on trash. If you got any conversions is an miracle.

I'm brazilian so i will help u out with correct sentences cause if you run this banner man, 99% of the brazilian ppl will read this and think 'WTF? Some moron write this?', but next time in your creatives use onehourtranslation services. Also i see a lot of 'Install' an english word, so you are writing an CTA button with english and ur target speak portuguese. Also i really don't like your angle but this is just my opinion.

1 - Problemas Na Instalação de Aplicativos? Experimente uma maneira mais fácil.
2 - Baixar Aplicativos Mais Rápido - Instalar
3 - Download de Aplicativos Mais Rápido - Instalar
4 -Não Consegue Instalar Aplicativos ? Instalar -
5 - Aplicativos Mais Rápidos - Instalar
6 - Instalação.. Conheça a Melhor Maneira de Instalar Aplicativos
7 - Aplicativos Mais Rápidos Aqui - Instalar
8 - Aplicativos Mais Rápidos Aqui - Instalar

Just my 2c.
Wow. thanks bro you're a lifesaver.

thankfully, decisive doesn't make your ads active immediately unlike leadimpact.

Got them changed!

here are the creatives..

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Quote Originally Posted by lior_o_o View Post
wtf this car looks like Batman's car good luck bro
Here you go. thanks bro
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08-31-2014 03:10 AM #10 zeno (Administrator)

Quote Originally Posted by lanbau View Post
yeah i used Google Translate. Reason is because stackman mentioned that google translate is better than proper translations. But of course, i will take your advice and try onehourtranslation after going through the whole process with these banners haha.
Most people know that Google Translate can give better results, often because the odd/incorrect translation will get people's attention a little better.

It is not better than OneHourTranslation, or literally any other translation service that involves a human.


08-31-2014 12:59 PM #11 afernald (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by zeno View Post
Most people know that Google Translate can give better results, often because the odd/incorrect translation will get people's attention a little better.

It is not better than OneHourTranslation, or literally any other translation service that involves a human.
Seems legit 👍


08-31-2014 01:40 PM #12 lanbau (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by zeno View Post
Most people know that Google Translate can give better results, often because the odd/incorrect translation will get people's attention a little better.

It is not better than OneHourTranslation, or literally any other translation service that involves a human.
cool. thanks for your view. will be using onehourtranslation for future campaigns. (:

Just a question. If google translate can give better results due to gaining people's attention, that would mean higher CTR for my banner?

Isn't high CTR something that i should be aiming for to have cheaper traffic? Just curious.


08-31-2014 01:52 PM #13 constantin (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by lanbau View Post
cool. thanks for your view. will be using onehourtranslation for future campaigns. (:

Just a question. If google translate can give better results due to gaining people's attention, that would mean higher CTR for my banner?

Isn't high CTR something that i should be aiming for to have cheaper traffic? Just curious.
If the user has no idea what you're writing then they cant understand your angle you can't convince them to convert on your offer. Google translate could get someones attention because its wrong, but its by no means something that should be part of your 1st batch of banner tests.


08-31-2014 03:16 PM #14 stackman (Administrator)

Quote Originally Posted by zeno View Post
Most people know that Google Translate can give better results, often because the odd/incorrect translation will get people's attention a little better.

It is not better than OneHourTranslation, or literally any other translation service that involves a human.
YEP

I've had multiple test where i saw no real conversion difference between google translate & real human translations.
Note: I've only tested this with very short copy


09-02-2014 01:52 AM #15 lanbau (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by stackman View Post
YEP

I've had multiple test where i saw no real conversion difference between google translate & real human translations.
Note: I've only tested this with very short copy
Thanks for the clarification!

Anyway the RESULTS ARE OUT!

Wasn't expecting much but had a little data

WIFI + Site = 4 conversions in total

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CTR = 1.89%, 1 conversion
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CTR = 1.77%, 1 Conversion
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CTR = 1.75%, 1 conversion


Mobile + Site = 2 conversions in total
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CTR = 1.56%, 2 Conversions


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CTR = 0.47%, 1 Conversion

WIFI + App = 0 conversions in total

Summary

Revenue = $3.15
Cost = $60
ROI = -94.75% (is this the right calculation?)

To Do
1. Pick another angle for the same offer
2. Use onehourtranslation.com

A Few Questions
1. Any expert advice on whether i should reuse my banner designs?
2. how should i improve my campaign?
3. is there a way to check what time were the conversions on decisive platform? i know you can check that with cpvlab. not sure about this one. -> so that i can start my next campaign around that timing.

Thanks guys!


09-02-2014 06:12 PM #16 caurmen (Administrator)

Congrats on the conversions! Yep, your ROI calculation looks about right.

I suspect you'll end up wanting to test more offers, but definitely try the second angle as the next test. What were your CPCs (costs per click) on that campaign?


09-02-2014 10:53 PM #17 lanbau (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by caurmen View Post
Congrats on the conversions! Yep, your ROI calculation looks about right.

I suspect you'll end up wanting to test more offers, but definitely try the second angle as the next test. What were your CPCs (costs per click) on that campaign?
Hi caurmen! thanks for the reply.

here are the CPCs for this campaign

WIFI + Site: $0.01
Mobile + Site: $0.02
Mobile + App: $0.02
WIFI + App: $0.01


09-03-2014 05:14 PM #18 caurmen (Administrator)

OK, cool. CPCs are reasonably low, so there are no obvious problems there. Onward!


09-03-2014 05:45 PM #19 bbrock32 (Administrator)

First, congrats on taking action, good job!

You got some good feedback above, the only thing I would like to add is to split test more offers.

Mobogenie still works but it's not at it's peak anymore. Ask your AM for top offers in brazil and test 1-2 more.


09-03-2014 05:59 PM #20 ivancy (Member)

Might sound a stupid question, but did you target only Android devices?
Don't see it mentioned in your thread, and mobogenie is for Android devices only.

I would also say that mobogenie was good when it was new months ago, but it's probably saturated already.


09-04-2014 11:06 AM #21 lanbau (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by bbrock32 View Post
First, congrats on taking action, good job!

You got some good feedback above, the only thing I would like to add is to split test more offers.

Mobogenie still works but it's not at it's peak anymore. Ask your AM for top offers in brazil and test 1-2 more.
Awesome. just curious, you meant "Split test more offers" means using different offers (same type of product like antivirus) or the same offer from different cpa networks?

oh man.. is there a way to find out when did the app appear on the market? Maybe that will help to filter out these type of offers from the top offers list provided from my AM?

thanks for the feedback!




Quote Originally Posted by ivancy View Post
Might sound a stupid question, but did you target only Android devices?
Don't see it mentioned in your thread, and mobogenie is for Android devices only.

I would also say that mobogenie was good when it was new months ago, but it's probably saturated already.

Ah no wonder there were clicks but little installs. The users must have already installed them.


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