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08-20-2014 05:16 AM #1 johnny cash (Member)
Where do you host Landers for Voluum?

Im not completely sure so i wanted to get a confirmation here...

can i just use my rackspace CDN for the landers?

anyone doing this?

I think you can host landers on CDN as long as theres no PHP in them

08-20-2014 05:48 AM #2 sciaq (Member)

I use Volumm + Rackspace: I made a guide for the entire process here: http://stmforum.com/forum/showthread...-Server-Set-UP

I link to this in the guide, but most of what you need is here: http://iamattila.com/media-buying-10...ding-pages.php

Your right, no PHP. Post guide though, I'm thinking about MaxCDN because I've read they have some interesting GEO pulling features.

08-20-2014 06:37 AM #3 omrikos (Member)

I wouldn't go for Rackspace since it is 50$ a month! Better get a dedicated server at this price.
However there is a way of hosting static pages for free on a cloud for one year.
That is what I do:
http://www.michaelgallego.fr/blog/20...the-right-way/

Hope that's help.

08-20-2014 06:54 AM #4 zeno (Administrator)

Quote Originally Posted by sciaq View Post
I use Volumm + Rackspace: I made a guide for the entire process here: http://stmforum.com/forum/showthread...-Server-Set-UP

I link to this in the guide, but most of what you need is here: http://iamattila.com/media-buying-10...ding-pages.php

Your right, no PHP. Post guide though, I'm thinking about MaxCDN because I've read they have some interesting GEO pulling features.
GEO pulling features? I imagine Voluum might add support for passing city/state from a lookup into the lander URL, in due time.

08-20-2014 06:56 AM #5 zeno (Administrator)

Quote Originally Posted by omrikos View Post
I wouldn't go for Rackspace since it is 50$ a month! Better get a dedicated server at this price.
However there is a way of hosting static pages for free on a cloud for one year.
That is what I do:
http://www.michaelgallego.fr/blog/20...the-right-way/

Hope that's help.
S3/CloudFront is a good virtually free alternative - and that's and excellent guide -- bookmarked!

08-20-2014 07:07 AM #6 sciaq (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by omrikos View Post
I wouldn't go for Rackspace since it is 50$ a month! Better get a dedicated server at this price.
This is news to me, the most I've paid on Rackspace is a few bucks a month.

08-20-2014 07:18 AM #7 zeno (Administrator)

I believe they decided to make 'management' mandatory where you pay a minimum of $50/month to use their cloud services entirely.

08-20-2014 08:24 AM #8 sciaq (Member)

Cheeky buggers!

08-20-2014 10:54 AM #9 dancastro (Member)

I recall asking them about that $50 and they said it's not the case - I better double check and reconsider another cloud service if so!

08-20-2014 12:05 PM #10 zeno (Administrator)

Yes it seems weird.

Someone should try registering a new account and getting it active.

I did run into the pay-wall so to speak and just quit, didn't investigate further.

It indeed seems like an odd move on their part!

08-20-2014 02:37 PM #11 rafael (Member)

I've been using Rackspace cloud files for a while and the most I've paid is like $6 a month. Where are you guys seeing this $50 charge?

One thing I'm not so sure about: Do we lose the benefits of the Rackspace CDN when the tracker is passing unique variables to the lander? It seems to me that the benefits of the CDN come from sending traffic to a static file like index.html , but the CDN will not cache the static index.html with a bunch of tracking variables tacked on at the end (index.html?trackingid=7678589&bannerid=19238). Am I right?

08-20-2014 03:13 PM #12 persona (Member)

Just sign up.

$50 per month fee is only if you create a cloud server.



08-20-2014 03:18 PM #13 johnny cash (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by sciaq View Post
I use Volumm + Rackspace: I made a guide for the entire process here: http://stmforum.com/forum/showthread...-Server-Set-UP

I link to this in the guide, but most of what you need is here: http://iamattila.com/media-buying-10...ding-pages.php

Your right, no PHP. Post guide though, I'm thinking about MaxCDN because I've read they have some interesting GEO pulling features.
Awesome man! thanks

So do u guys use the Rackspace CDN or are you using the dnseasy?

08-20-2014 03:56 PM #14 iAmAttila (Veteran Member)

I dont pay 50 for my rackspace. I pay based on traffic.

08-21-2014 12:38 AM #15 zeno (Administrator)

Thanks for clearing that up persona!

It did seem odd!

I still have an account and use them, and certainly am not getting charged much at all.

@johnny you mean the cloud DNS? It works fine so is appropriate to use - and very easy to use at that.

@rafael usually, with CDNs, you can change the level of aggressiveness of caching - i.e. to turn query string caching on and off.

It is useful when you want to use query strings to force updates/revisions, but as you said will nullify caching advantages if you have tracking data in the URL and the CDN treats the pages individually.

08-21-2014 12:49 AM #16 shakedown (Member)

I just wanted to mention the CDN I use which is CDN77. It has been great for me.

Also, you can get 6 months free up to $50/mo of traffic with the "Rackspace Developer Discount" https://developer.rackspace.com/blog...oper-discount/

08-21-2014 01:23 AM #17 johnny cash (Member)

Thanks Zeno!

Yea I meant the cloud DNS
I checked the DNSmadeeasy
And it actually looks really helpful (not sure if it's necessary )

08-21-2014 01:41 AM #18 redrummr (Member)

Great ideas. To pull geo location information, some CDNs will make available the city/country but in my experience it's not been accurate at all.

MaxCDN is woeful compared to proper CDNs. I don't recommend it. I don't know any top marketer that uses it. Yes, there's a tutorial for it on this site -- but I would stay away.

RS/CF is the way to go if you want speed and performance.

To call geo information using JS, set up your own API: simply install the geoIP database on your server, set up a simple PHP page that spits out the info you want, and restrict requests to [your CDN bucket] so you have effectively created an exclusive IP-to-location API that can be called via JS. This way you won't be vulnerable when they drop your server for sending too many requests (moreover: many services explicitly tell you they will cap you at 1,000 requests per day).

08-21-2014 01:52 AM #19 zeno (Administrator)

I recommend NSOne if you want an absolutely awesome DNS provider.

Their platform is next-level shizzle.

08-21-2014 01:03 PM #20 Adamw (AMC Alumnus)

Thanks for the guide and info in here fellas!

I'm having trouble executing Javascript while using these CDN setups (tested both rackspace and AWS). I am just hosting the lp.html on the CDN, and that file contains the <script> alert("hello") </script>, but id doesn't pop. Here's what happens:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/3o2isopuw2...2009.05.54.png
https://www.dropbox.com/s/02y1uk04ns...2009.06.13.png

Is there some kind of special configuration I need, or is that just not supported with this kind of setup?

Thanks!

08-21-2014 05:08 PM #21 caurmen (Administrator)

Have you tried that test with a semicolon after the closing bracket? Pretty sure it'll need it even for one line of code.

08-21-2014 05:31 PM #22 Adamw (AMC Alumnus)
Where do you host Landers for Voluum?

got it working! Thanks for the input!

08-22-2014 12:29 AM #23 zeno (Administrator)

Quote Originally Posted by redrummr View Post
To call geo information using JS, set up your own API: simply install the geoIP database on your server, set up a simple PHP page that spits out the info you want, and restrict requests to [your CDN bucket] so you have effectively created an exclusive IP-to-location API that can be called via JS. This way you won't be vulnerable when they drop your server for sending too many requests (moreover: many services explicitly tell you they will cap you at 1,000 requests per day).
-- This is definitely the route I would take as well.

Frankly, if all you need from PHP is geo information - and your server is not hosting tracking - then it is arguably better to host on a CDN > call geo info with javascript, rather than host on your server + call with PHP there.

The PHP vs javascript speed difference will likely become non-crucial vs the speed improvements across the board from a CDN!

08-22-2014 02:25 PM #24 conquer (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by zeno View Post
-- This is definitely the route I would take as well.

Frankly, if all you need from PHP is geo information - and your server is not hosting tracking - then it is arguably better to host on a CDN > call geo info with javascript, rather than host on your server + call with PHP there.

The PHP vs javascript speed difference will likely become non-crucial vs the speed improvements across the board from a CDN!
I'm facing this exact situation right now. I'm hosting on RS and tracking via Voluum.

What would be the best course of action to be able to call geolocation with Javascript?

08-22-2014 07:01 PM #25 caurmen (Administrator)

Can Voluuum not pass geo information? If not, I'd recommend badgering them to add that feature

08-23-2014 04:36 AM #26 zeno (Administrator)

I'm pretty sure you can pass country to landers.

08-24-2014 11:12 AM #27 karim0028 (Member)

how do you grab those variables in javascript?

08-24-2014 07:09 PM #28 zymest (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by karim0028 View Post
how do you grab those variables in javascript?
There's a pretty straightforward guide to this on the voluum knowledge base: http://feedback.Voluum.com/knowledge...eter-on-lander

Edit: I had posted something about signing up for cloud sites not charging you but that is completely wrong! Cloud sites is a base fee of $150. I guess its cloud files that you need to get for the usage based billing.

08-25-2014 03:39 AM #29 zeno (Administrator)

Nice!

And I also have a javascript/query string guide here: http://stmforum.com/forum/showthread...s-querystrings!

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