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08-13-2014 10:40 PM #1 travel99 (Member)
My (attempts) at making $10,000 in profit with mobile marketing

Hi guys!

I'm a complete newbie when it comes to mobile marketing (or paid traffic for that matter). I understand there is a steep learn curve for mobile marketing but I'll grind my way up.

I have a full time job.

My goal is to generate $10,000 in profit, while working on mobile marketing part-time. How long is this going to take me? I don't know. But I hope to attain this goal with persistence and resolve.

My IQ isn't high (room temperature when I'm drunk)

I have Voluum, decisive, photoshop, account with neverblue ads and a bankroll of 3k.

Let's do this.


08-14-2014 01:27 AM #2 marketone (Member)

You sure you want to start with mobile? If i were you i would start with something a bit less complex with a small bankroll. 3k is barely testing money for 1 campaign. Expect to lose quite a bit of that with no experience. I would reconsider if i were you. If the 3k is play money and you just want to get a feel for things then take the gamble. Just lower your expectations majorly.


08-14-2014 01:42 AM #3 fishinseo ()

Quote Originally Posted by marketone View Post
You sure you want to start with mobile? If i were you i would start with something a bit less complex with a small bankroll. 3k is barely testing money for 1 campaign. Expect to lose quite a bit of that with no experience. I would reconsider if i were you. If the 3k is play money and you just want to get a feel for things then take the gamble. Just lower your expectations majorly.
But the Appetizer method says to cut a campaign if it has not reached $7 in $15 in adspend. You are saying spend $3k on one campaign for testing? This is what I font get about the whole mobile testing thing. Its like there is contradictory info all over the place.


08-14-2014 02:17 PM #4 keepthecar (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by marketone View Post
If the 3k is play money and you just want to get a feel for things then take the gamble.
I really don't agree. Stick to low pay-out offers. You don't have to spend $200 to see whether a 20ct CPI offer converts or not. If you have 0 conversions after spending $10 (which is 50x the payout) you can ditch it and move on to the next one. If it does convert then you can start collecting data quickly due to the low payout. It's still not easy and you need to do a TON of testing but I wouldn't call 3k merely play money.

Keep in mind though that besides a testing budget you also need some money to scale before you run into cashflow problems.


08-14-2014 03:01 PM #5 caurmen (Administrator)

@fishinseo - yep, that's the fun of mobile. Unlike Web, it's still very much the Wild West.

The approach I recommend in the Mobile Cookbook is based on the experience of a bunch of very successful affiliates, but that doesn't mean it's the only way to succeed. Spending a LOT per campaign and picking out the tiny strands of data that lead to winners is another approach that can work.


08-17-2014 11:37 PM #6 marketone (Member)

I'm not saying by any means 3k is play money. I apologize if that's the way it came off. I'm merely saying that mobile requires much more optimizing then web. So it takes that much more of a budget to test. So if that's all the money you have for this business then I feel you could be more effective learning on a different platform. I run through 3k testing fairly quickly on my mobile campaigns. I would hate for you to get eaten alive in mobile and blow through your 3k and not know how to properly understand your data. This is how most aff's get beat and quit. It's your money man and only you can make the decision of how to spend it. Just my 2 cents.


08-30-2014 05:54 AM #7 travel99 (Member)

Hi marketone, thank you so much for your posts. I appreciate your advice, even ought your initial post seems off putting but your intentions are well meaning. No worries, I will not give up!


08-30-2014 06:01 AM #8 travel99 (Member)

Two weeks has passed since I took my next step - pretty pathetic. I should have no excuse not to be working on my affiliate campaign, even if it's 60 minutes a day. Oh well, live and learn.

I deposited $100 with Decisive and set up my campaign, using the "appetizers" method. I'm a complete beginner for PPC, so I have no ****ing idea what I'm doing. Okay.

So I made some banners - I'm targetting dating and video games. Here's what I made:

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Very good banners right? Incredible artistic ability, lol.

I was targetting Canada, found out that dating doesn't work so well. However, gaming app install generated alot of clicks but no installs.

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I haven't generated any traffic on Neverblue ads for 2 years - I'm so glad that my account still works.

Next up, here's what I need to figure:

1. How to track Decisive accounts using Volumn (and using Volumn in general)
2. Better marketing research before launching a campaign
3. Improve my CTR (better banner design?)
4. Better split testing using Volumn

Well that's all for today. Thank you for reading.


08-30-2014 07:37 AM #9 elsalvador (Member)

Interesting challenge. In fact, you need a littly bit of luck as well. I haven't invested a penny since I started two weeks ago as I got the luck my first campaign was a hotshot from the start so your $3000 should be more than enough to make it happen. But you have to tweak and re-invest your profits straight away to grow.


08-31-2014 09:20 AM #10 travel99 (Member)

So I'm looking over my Decisive stats, and here's what I learned:

- The majority of the banner clicks are from apps vs site (153 clicks vs 29 clicks)
- The majority of the clicks are from 19:00 to 23:00 hours
- Some clicks from 15:00 hours
- I do not enable wifi traffic because I (heard) that it's crap for the most part, including click fraud. However, I shouldn't be dogmatic about this and test it for myself.

Quote Originally Posted by elsalvador View Post
But you have to tweak and re-invest your profits straight away to grow.
Right. I'm going to re-invest 100 percent of profits back into the business.

Things to do:

1. How to track Decisive traffic using Volumm
2. Create and upload more banners and try to get my first conversation.


08-31-2014 10:35 AM #11 caurmen (Administrator)

The banner's perfectly good. I've made significant money with banners that looked a lot worse or a lot plainer than that.

Keep on testing!


09-01-2014 07:29 AM #12 travel99 (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by caurmen View Post
The banner's perfectly good. I've made significant money with banners that looked a lot worse or a lot plainer than that.

Keep on testing!
Thanks for the word of encouragement.

So, I found out that the gaming app that I have been sending traffic to? It turns out to be a parked page, I know I'm not being re-directed because the campaign is for Canada and I'm using an Canadian IP. The goes $20 in the garbage, lol.

I also used http://www.browserstack.com - which is pretty interesting. I'll be sure to test my landing page and compaign on browserstack before running a live campaign (pretty obvious stuff but I'm retarded ...)

I spent 3 hours learning how to track with volumm, I got it up and running, now I can see the clicks being tracked. Interesting!

Game plan so far:

1. Test more offers via direct linking using decisive
2. Learn how to build a landing page and go traffic source -> landing page -> offer

That's all for today, thanks for reading.


09-01-2014 07:29 PM #13 caurmen (Administrator)

Aw no, that sucks!

Did you check the gaming app using the appropriate useragent for the device it's targeted to? Sounds like it was probably a dud, but it's worth checking that - use Google Developer Tools' emulation mode.


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