Retargeting With A Twist? (18)
Yesterday I was reading through a bunch of threads and one of them about retargeting caught my attention. One of the mods here (sry don't remember who exactly) said he dropped retargeting pixels in a blackhat forum and then got banned a long time ago.
I found that kind of interesting so I ran a test.
I signed up with perfectaudience and chose email tag which gave me this code:
<img src="http://ads.perfectaudience(dot)com/seg?add=0000000&t=2" width="1" height="1" border="0" />
To drop it into most forums you just take the link and wrap the IMG tags around it.
I went to some of the biggest niche forums and started leaving decent quality posts but dropping my invisible pixel as well. So far none of my accounts are banned and I've dropped over 1500 cookies with just a few posts.
I'm wondering if this can be made into a profitable method?
For example say you drop cookies on basketball forum users, when it comes to retargeting you could have it say in your ad "9/10 Users at BBall Forums Love The Vertical Jump System How About You?" or maybe "The Secret Vertical Jump System BBall Forums Willl Never Tell You About". Since you mentioned the forum they frequent it should boost the CTR and maybe the conversion rate if done right.
There have to be some interesting ways to turn this into profit. What you guys think is it worth spending some money to test?
ive been doing this with my list building project and it works awesome
Sounds very interesting indeed. I'd definitely test that.
I'd totally do it.
All part of the game.
Better yet, pay microworkers and similar to make posts for you so you get more volume haha.
don't perfectaudience kick you out quick ?
Who cares. Use website custom audiences.
Unless you're dead set on FBX places like PerfectAudience don't add much now.
Only care as lose the cookie, sitescout closed an account for dropping pixels...
How else do you get a 3rd party cookie for use across the web if not using one them, PerfectAudience etc ?
Perfect audience has FBX access. I wouldn't call that across the web...
You could use SiteScout, ExoClick, FB website custom audiences, AdRoll/Appnexus, and any other platform with retargeting.
Getting kicked off a platform for dropping retargeting pixels constantly is weird - I'm not sure how this is detrimental to a platform like SiteScout?
Ah see what you mean, was meaning the web retargeting part of perfectaudience.
Sitescout said if was against their T&C's but have done since any they never noticed or didn't care.
Was slightly "cleverer", faked an email and the post in the forum cut and pasted in the email (with the cookie) as it was relevant..
Originally Posted by hiro99
I thought up another cool twist to this. Instead of paying webmasters for ad buys you can pay them some dirt cheap price to drop your retargeting pixel then you can stalk their userbase around the web with ads lol.
Originally Posted by zeno
So I'm expanding on this idea further.
There are multiple retargeting networks out there, why not create a post that basically stuffs as many pixels as possible? Is there any real disadvantage to posting multiple 1 pixel images that just happen to be clear?
I could see this as a way to drop pixels on product reviews, and follow the user around with display ads, facebook ads, popup ads, and even direct navigation highlighting the benefits of a given product based on what was previously read in the reviews.
Originally Posted by jennatalia
http://www.businessinsider.com/ebay-...dunning-2013-4
Thank you for the heads up cmdeal,
I found the sentence: http://www.businessinsider.com/shawn...ng-scam-2014-5
5 Months and 25k fine. No restitution from the criminal side. Definitely a civil settlement with ebay, details weren't released, but I'd imagine ebay didn't make him return all the money.
I read through the article, and there's a major disconnect between what's written there and what you said.
Both Hogan and Dunning wrote widgets and spread them out to bloggers. The purpose of the widgets was simply to plant ebay cookies in an effort to ensure that the users who ultimately ended up on ebay and bought something were credited to them. None of their referred traffic actually hit ebay's servers when the cookie was placed. In a way, I can understand ebay's position that people credited for the sale of a product as an affiliate should have sent the buyer to ebay's website.
From the looks of things, ebay I guess didn't want to pay out those affiliate commissions, and looked for a way out of their deal. What the affiliates should have done was received emails from the various ebay affiliate reps confirming that they approve of the behavior, and record the various conversations saying that ebay approved.
I think the biggest difference between what I plan on doing and what these guys did is I'm directing the retargeted traffic through my own infrastructure and ultimately to different products in a similar market. I'm not stuffing an amazon cookie for example, just tagging various visitors for future retargeting.
In the unlikely event I end up in prison for this, I hope they put me in with the white collar wall st guys. They have amazing war stories.
they actually steal million dollars from ebay..
there is a big diffrerence between tricking people to increase ctr vs steal money..
but yea, in both cases used cookies.. cookies can be tricky 
Could someone please explain how to make the tag work within forum posts?
You'd have to put it in your post or signature and the forum would need HTML to be enabled in both user posts/sigs. This is terribly insecure so you may have trouble finding any decent sized forum where you can do it.
Sounds interesting. I might give it a try
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