50$ a DAY in a 2 Months (fighting) (28)
Hi, my name is spring, have been a member here for a while,
this is my first adult campaign running follow along.
--> 50$ a day in 2 month.
offer Network: affliatexe
traffic network: exo
Strategy:
1.target one country , offer payout:$3 , buget $20/d
2.RON cpc taffic, some domain to target, some domain to filter,
3. 4 banners (SPY,JUST FIND SOME REALLY RUN ASAP), direct link,
before I run, the exo man let me up my bid or budget, cause the huge impress will soon eat all my buget.
but the fist day:-------------------------
1. impress:1,586, clicks: 1.
2. spend: 0.05
3, no cr, no profit 
what is the problem? huge traffic??
question:
1. what is different between the cpm and cpc ?
in cpc,
because pay for click, so ,I can expand my target , cate, and try to get the good traffic
by the way, the bid in cpc means what? if cpc bid is 0.05, means 1 click cost 0.05. but if I up the bid to 0.6. will it get more traffic?
cpm ,
just like pof. the higher bid ,the more HQ traffic coming....
in cpm ,there are some premium dommain, I think I can get these domians ,and target them in RON CPC
so there is a Strategy:
1. cpc to find the usefull domain
2. put cpm premium domain into the RON CPC target box
3. if good target found, the change to run cpm, bid high.
is it work？
but now my problem is how to get more traffic?
need your advice , bros,
Can I just check - did your campaigns only spend $0.05 in the first day? If so, that's your key problem! You're probably bidding too low - if you up your bid, as you say, you'll get more traffic.
@caurmen
ok, I will up my bid
Definitely up your bid man, $50/day in 2 months is super super possible but you're gonna have to define your testing if you're only spending $20 a day you don't have a tonne of room for error.
You should definitely use landing pages, and some more banners. Just 4 banners and direct linking will most likely eat you alive in adult world, especially on exoclick man.
Your best bet is to pick a tier 2 euro country or latam, and run uncompetitive placements. Not the banners you find on the spy, maybe try some skyscraper ads 160x600 etc they're a lot less competitive and you can find some higher ROI's which you will need at a low budget man, let me know if you have any more questions
@maynzie,thanks!
very glad to heard that, super possible
i have up my bid to 0.08,but still no traffic,so go ahead up... and add some LP and 160*600 banner. by the way, what is skyscraper ? the adult spy tool in STM?
by the way ,I have found the offer lp is always changed...,I will contact my AM for reason
update..
second day:
1.have change the bid mode to CPM
2.data:
cost: $12.40, back:$0. no profit
ctr: 0.14% , 5 banners, no LP, NO CR
in the day: I saw some creative ctr is below 0.1%, pause it , and the target is let it running , until it hits the 2x payment, if still no cr, delete it (it this right?)
todo:
1. build the LP,
2. add other creative that maked myself
3. the target url is some from the spytool, so just base on these ones and see what happen
4. try some other country
some question today:
1. how is the exo cpc bid running logic?
2. how is the exo target domain running logic?
@maynzie
@caurmen
hoping to get your reply and advice.
creative:
some targets:
If a creative's CTR is below 0.1% AND it has had more than 5k impressions, I'd recommend pausing it, yes. However, that depends on the placement to a certain extent - some placements will have significantly lower CTR but also lower costs. It's a matter of experience to a certain extent. For now, try to work toward at least 0.1% CTR.
how about the target CTR filter strategy?
also toward at least 0.1% CTR.( 5k impressions)
or wait for the CONVERSION until 3X payout
Originally Posted by springstm
However, be mindful of the CPM of the placement.
A very low CTR leads to very high click costs, which leads to you needing a very high conversion rate to break even.
If the placement has had 5k impressions, 0.1% CTR, what is the average CPC? If it's $0.17 and your offer pays out $0.30, chances are this placement isn't going to work out for you.
However if the CPM was much lower and this equated to $0.05 CPC, and you had an offer payout of $1.00, you have a lot more leeway to wait-and-see.
UPDATE DAY 3：
done:
1. add new banners
2. 2 LP
3. begin to filter some target which CTR is below 0.1 when reach 1k~2k impressions,(I think the CTR will almost there when imp reach the 1k or 2k,or I will test until 5k )
4. up the bids,
5. up the budget (because @maynzie said that will improve the traffic in some traffic logic )
datas:
1. ctr:0.21%, cost:$16.55, no CR, no profit too!
the LP CTR is very low : 1.1% !
How I Make the LP? just copy the offer lp, and then write the ready copy?then done, just for a similar one for the offer
because if there is big different , the guys will feel that they were cheated....
the lp is here:
the trace:
the target:
todo:
1. improve the LP,(how? please give me some tips)
2. if the lp ctr is up, I will up my bids for more traffic
3. new banners added
4. have seen @maynzie thread, wap is a good traffic. want to try .but , must run this in profit fist.
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hoping your reply and advice.
want to get profit profit profit profit profit profit profit profit profit profit profit ！！！！！！！！！！！！
want to get close to my goal!!!
Hello man, nice follow along that is for sure!
First thing to do, is to create better landing page. Use some rules landers, they are the best, especially for newbies.
I see you run milfaholics offer. So you run in the tier1 countries, and this is pretty hard place to start with.
Web traffic is great, WAP traffic is great, if you know what to do. Don't jump to every shiny object if you don't know what to do.
Ive made same mistakes in the begining, so millions of other newbies.
First TIP I can give based on my little experience with ADULT, don't waste money if you don't know how to do it.
When you are learning you are spending money for data. Is it a good trade. But when I was starting I was spending money, and I still didn't know shit.
Do your research. Spend few hours on sites (tip: jerk off before doing it, it will be easier to work, trust me)
Analyze banners, landing pages, angles, and the whole sequence banner>>landing page>>offer. If someone is pushing it, so there is place to make money. But even with the same sequence you can lose money, and other people get profit. There are some things behind the scenes, like payout, hosting, tracking etc.
I would recommend to run RON traffic if you know how to do it. Start with some tier 2/3 countries with cheap traffic. Pick some converting domains, and than advertise only on them (ROI - PROFIT - MONEY)
RON is also easy place to burn money, so if you don't have some "blow up" budget than id recommend to avoid it.
That's not a bad start. Milfaholic is a solid offer.
What I would do, based on your limited budget, is to pick 2-3 smaller sites for that geo and test on those.
Avoid the RON or high competition premium sites like xhamster etc.
You have to be patient since it will take some time to gather meaningful data with that amount of spending.
Originally Posted by graphene
so. I will test the other country, and have another LP to test
focus on this
Originally Posted by bbrock32
now I run is RON, but I will try some smaller sites and good CTR sites TO test
UPDATE 4：
done:
1. add new banners,
2. 2 LP
3. keep filting some target which CTR is below 0.1
4. bids low, if my lp have higher ctr, I will increase the bid, but now, just wait to test the good lp
datas:
1. ctr:0.16%, cost:$18.97, ------------------>no CR, no profit too!
lp1: ctr 15%
lp2: ctr 30%
by now, I have change my geo to europe, but still no profit
what to do next?
change the banner sizes to test? or change anther offer to run? or change the wap?
alway being busy, but I will keep moving on!
very appreciate your feedback , I have tons of things to learn
Can you give us an overview of banner stats for your new EU-based campaign?
What country are you targeting? Are you still running English landers, ads and the offer as before?
Before finding other things to test you should confirm if your current Europe-based campaign is a worthwhile test.
Originally Posted by zeno
thank you zeno to reply.
EU-based : is change to UK
and the us campaign is keep running (still running English landers, ads and the offer as before)
data:
CTR Imps. eCPC eCPM Cost
0.16% 159,484 $0.074 $0.119 $18.97 (uk)
0.39% 130,026 $0.030 $0.120 $15.60 （us）
so ,just want to change to other EU country, other language to test..
what do you think ?
[B]update: CHANGE OFFER
Spend: $63
Revenue: $2.5
Profit: -$61.5
ROI: -97%
CTR:23%
LP CTR:17%
10 banner, 1 LP.
have del the low ctr banner,
filter the low ctr target
question:
1. for the banner ctr is 0.25%, but cost 10, is 4x payout. may I delete the banner or keep running?
2. for the target, I always delete the target ctr below 0.1% after 2k imps, what do you think?
3. in the EXO, the stats data, there is a "other", and "other" is cost me $46,I want to track and know which target in "other" is eating my buget?how to track them all?
the "other"
4. in EXO target system.
if I want filter 7.com, just input -7.com
want to target 8.com, input 8.com
but when I input:
8.com
-7.com
is the other site like 9.com will in my target? or only 8.com is my target.
the strange things is that I can not find the cr target in EXO , which is show in my prop202
just one cr, alittle step to suc, yeah!
nest step:
1. create another 10 banners, 1 new LP
2. analyse the date, and delete the low CTR cate
3. add another angle
So, is this current batch of data basically showing 1,000 clicks and 1 conversion?
If that is the case, I would say your angle simply isn't working (or the offer).
I believe the offer is proven.
If 1,000 clicks get to your lander and only 10% click through, that's still 100 clicks to the offer. 100 clicks and 1 conversion is a terrible CVR.
I'm not sure what the deal is with aggregated 'other' placements in Exo - some one else will have to chime in, but if those clicks come from many other legitimate websites, I would take a step back and assess whether this angle is worth pursuing.
Making new banners, LPs, etc. is pointless if the entire campaign angle is not working.
Better to start fresh with an entirely new angle (i.e. banner > LP > offer flow) and leave the previous campaign stats behind.
Yup as Zeno the master said, its either your angle, or the site placements on Exo. Personally I've found Exo to be complete hit or miss, have you had a search to see what angles other people are running?
At $50/day you're not trying to reinvent the wheel, you're just learning the process of creating a successful campaign. So yeah have a look around, get some inspiration, get back into this campaign 
and get yo $50/day!
Originally Posted by zeno
the other day:
also the same, almost the above data, another cr added
I have change the angle
if is the angle problem, the creative ctr must be low, right?
and the LP is a mainstrean lP just show some rule and then go forward....
so , I think , the problem is the offer
Hi, maynzie
I have research,and know what angle is specail
^ Nice put it into action and update us with some results !
Hi Guys
Thanks reply my post and give some tips!
by now, I have already spend $300+ no my adult desktop.
I have changed to the casualclub IT, but after I got my 1,256,633 imps, I just get 3552 clicks
just 2 cr,
myangle:
I just do some research from http://www.pornmd.com/sex-search and some STM spy tool(how about your ways ?).
so just set the angle to :
teen, asian, milf and the creatives ctr is above 0.2, not bad
my bid: just bid 0.1
lp ctr:10%, I think I can not do it better..I have try..
so ,what is the problem here? the angle? or the offer, I think is the offer.beause the creative ctr is notbad.
ok, try another offer: flirtfair,payout 5. geo: NO
do research find: teen,asian, milf is hot search, and even some food related to sex!
bid:0.1~0.3,when I find the traffic is small, I bid up,and set no cap.
also, lp ctr:10%, and got 107,433 imps, 246 clicks, but no conversion!
the low LP ctr is the keypoint? or the offer?
remember the post by machete:http://stmforum.com/forum/show...-Traffic-Junky
the first day is :
Cost: $54.99
Revenue: $68.25
Profit: $13.26
ROI: 24% ROI
I do an analyzing about it:
IMP BID CLICK CTR LP CLICK (30% CTR) LEAD CR COST
550000 0.1 1100 0.20% 330 23 2% 55
275000 0.2 500 0.20% 150 23 4% 55
137500 0.4 412 0.30% 123 23 5% 55
110000 0.5 1100 1% 330 23 2% 55
so, if the bid is 0.1, and the payout is 3, also the LP ctr is:30%
I can calculate the createive click, the offer cr
but compare to mine:
my lp ctr is 10%-->low
cr is 0 and 0.08%(just 2 cr another offer)
question:
1. what is the lp ctr of desktop offer,can you recommend some good lp to me for learning.
2. how to filter the target? the example above,i got 2cr, can i just target the 2 target?
does it works? I just thought after I got some cr targets(the number is 20+),I will just focus on them.
but now just 2.
how could I do next? ....
I need your points, I need the power to move on
thanks a lot ！！！！！
I received the tip from zeno:
1. proven offer
2. try more LP
I will go on..........and hope for more advice and ways right here
That's definitely on the low side for an adult lander, yep. You'd need a very high offer CVR on those clicks to make it work.
Have a read of http://stmforum.com/forum/showthread...y-Don-t-Matter to get a better understanding of LP CTRs.
Originally Posted by caurmen
thanks caurmen,very appreciate for your reply
learn more from the post
another question: I have read the thread http://stmforum.com/forum/showthread...ht=italy+adult
1. how to start with 1 placement and 1 site in exo?
placement in exo is the ad size? like 300*250?
and how do i choose 1 site ? is it one of the conversion site ? or going to the marketplace to buy the one site?
thanks
Originally Posted by springstm
I don't use Exo but I presume that in the marketplace or wherever you set up campaigns, you can just choose one specific placement/site.
got it .
Let's go ahead!
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