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How many are making a profit 6 months in? (43)
06-17-2014 08:17 AM
#1
nzbryant (AMC Alumnus)
How many are making a profit 6 months in?
Dear all of you
How many of you who have been doing this for 6 months or more are making a profit? If so, how much?
I just want to get an idea if it is like SEO. The guys on Warrior Forum - I bet only 2% are making more than $30k per year on that, despite all the talk!
06-17-2014 08:21 AM
#2
Mr Green (Administrator)
I made a few dimes within my first 6 months
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06-17-2014 08:34 AM
#3
blackemil (Junior Moderator)
Made some dolars but still learning. First 6 months of paid traffic. I make money with seo for over 3 years.
06-17-2014 09:05 AM
#4
nzbryant (AMC Alumnus)
Some dollars and some dimes - ahh, you are all so humble
(typical Kiwi Lorenzo!)
06-17-2014 10:29 AM
#5
tprobst (Member)
I make a steady low to mid $xxx/day revenue (@~80%ROI) after 3-4 month.
My approch: test -> fail -> improve -> test -> fail a little less -> improve -> test -> success a little.... rinse and repear...
06-17-2014 11:43 AM
#6
vp5005 (Member)

Originally Posted by
nzbryant
Dear all of you
How many of you who have been doing this for 6 months or more are making a profit? If so, how much?
I just want to get an idea if it is like SEO. The guys on Warrior Forum - I bet only 2% are making more than $30k per year on that, despite all the talk!
SEO is very different that Paid Traffic. With SEO its a waiting game and unpredictable at best, Usually the way Google Algo is setup, new domains will typically not get any decent ranking within the first 6 months or so, This is referred to as the Sandbox effect. Then after that, you may or may not show up based on your On page, off page factors. 5-6 years ago it was quite easy to know the factors that would increase your rank, but these days it is a guessing game at best. Now compare that to Paid traffic, say you are running an offer, you will have most of your data set to tell you whether an offer is worth pursuing within the first week or two max. So actually Paid Traffic is unlike SEO, and has many advantages over SEO, especially in terms of control and speed at which your data can be gathered, and hence faster profits with proper testing and tweeking.
06-17-2014 02:30 PM
#7
bbrock32 (Administrator)
I managed to be profitable within the first 3 months and even though it was 5-6 years ago I still think it's possible today if you have the right process.
06-17-2014 06:08 PM
#8
testosterone (Member)
Man, it took me 10 years or so to make a dollar - so I am not best example.
06-18-2014 09:22 AM
#9
nzbryant (AMC Alumnus)
So $120-$130k per year, after 3-4 months? Why doesnt EVERYONE do this?
06-18-2014 10:07 AM
#10
omri1181 (Member)
I think the biggest advantage of seo is its more passive money. While paid traffic you basically work much much much more..but the pay is high and you can test very fast.
06-18-2014 10:18 AM
#11
thisiscarlo (Member)

Originally Posted by
nzbryant
So $120-$130k per year, after 3-4 months? Why doesnt EVERYONE do this?
Risk tolerance and lack tech of know-how are a couple reasons I could think of.
06-18-2014 10:26 AM
#12
nebuer (Member)

Originally Posted by
nzbryant
So $120-$130k per year, after 3-4 months? Why doesnt EVERYONE do this?
because it's generally not so easy
06-18-2014 11:04 AM
#13
nzbryant (AMC Alumnus)

Originally Posted by
thisiscarlo
Risk tolerance and lack tech of know-how are a couple reasons I could think of.
That's fair. My sister or fiancee wouldnt have any idea how to do it. My sis could do banners much better than me - but not all the techy stuff.
06-18-2014 02:02 PM
#14
Humbleaid ()
I would be interested in knowing what the real breakdown of earnings is for people doing this full time. At least on other online forums, I believe most people are exaggerating by a lot how much they really make. I once read one guy on another forum talk about how he was making $500 million a year from affiliate marketing!
06-18-2014 02:52 PM
#15
bbrock32 (Administrator)
Lol $500 million a year looks very fake to me.
I think the top ( that I know of ) varies from couple millions a year ( profit ) to a very very few people doing low 8 figures.
However this is the 0.1% and not the norm. Also for most of them ( the one that do it consistently though ) it took a lot of time to fine tune the process and scale this big.
06-18-2014 02:54 PM
#16
Smaxor (Veteran Member)
took me a year. You need a combo of hard work + education + luck.
Don't be this guy. Slow and steady wins the race. Be consistent and calculated. You'll get there. Could take 1 month. I've seen people successful on their first campaign. And their 20-30th.

06-18-2014 08:01 PM
#17
cmdeal (Veteran Member)

Originally Posted by
kainaid
I would be interested in knowing what the real breakdown of earnings is for people doing this full time. At least on other online forums, I believe most people are exaggerating by a lot how much they really make. I once read one guy on another forum talk about how he was making $500 million a year from affiliate marketing!
No, no affiliate marketer is doing 500 million.
Not even close.
That would be about 5 times what Commission Junction (one of the oldest and best established affiliate networks) does in revenues every year.
06-19-2014 12:39 AM
#18
Humbleaid ()

Originally Posted by
cmdeal
No, no affiliate marketer is doing 500 million.
Not even close.
That would be about 5 times what Commission Junction (one of the oldest and best established affiliate networks) does in revenues every year.
Thank you. I didn't believe it myself.
06-19-2014 02:02 AM
#19
maynzie (Moderator)
Took me a little over 6 months, but once it started it skyrocketed, especially when I surrounded myself with awesome successful helpful people, hence why I love giving back.
It's just about getting over the fear of buying "DATA". You must trust the process that you have to spend money, to make money. $10 day budgets are not going to do much for you, if you read the successful parts of follow alongs you'll find the difference is usually when they up their budgets, don't reinvent the wheel and let the data roll in.
06-19-2014 06:22 AM
#20
dr_ngo ()
It's definitely possible to earn 4 figures profitable within 6 months. Possible, but not typical though.
Usually the person has a mentor, or has the funds / work ethic.
From what I've seen it takes the average affiliate over a year before things start to click. I think it's because the amount of material you have to learn these days is much, much higher than when I first started.
06-19-2014 06:55 AM
#21
nzbryant (AMC Alumnus)

Originally Posted by
dr_ngo
It's definitely possible to earn 4 figures profitable within 6 months. Possible, but not typical though.
You mean four figures over 6 months total - not 4 figs per month?
06-19-2014 06:59 AM
#22
dr_ngo ()

Originally Posted by
nzbryant
You mean four figures over 6 months total - not 4 figs per month?
4 figures profit+ a day.
I have seen it in 2014 with at least 8 different guys. Like i said...NOT TYPICAL, but possible
06-19-2014 02:51 PM
#23
solaris (Member)
Took me a year to really get going, mainly to find what I was good at and a niche that was sustainable. That was 10 years ago. If it wasn't for that pesky credit crunch and Google's anal obsessions things would have been a lot smoother. Just got to keep moving forward.
06-20-2014 03:45 AM
#24
nzbryant (AMC Alumnus)

Originally Posted by
dr_ngo
4 figures profit+ a day.
I have seen it in 2014 with at least 8 different guys. Like i said...NOT TYPICAL, but possible
Gee, that's motivating. If I can ask, how do you get to know all these people - what is your role in the industry? Thanks.
06-20-2014 05:29 AM
#25
iAmAttila (Veteran Member)
I've started making my first xxxx per month the 7th month - if I would've quit in my 6th, I would've never made it. Now I am making 5 figures per month, and working for the 6 figures per month profit, which isn't that hard but I am slow.
Here's a golden tip:
Set aside xxxx per month as an investment into your media buying education, then come up with a plan, write it down on paper
I focused on 1 traffic source, and wrote down different controlled experiments to try --
ie
-what happens if I set up an offer where I break the OS into different campaigns == ran it, noted the result
-what happens if i break down the top android phones into separate campaigns -- ran it, noted down results
-what happens if i take the best performing banner, make radically different versions of it -- ran it, noted down results
i done 100s of tests like this, all simple to answer just 1 thing -- so it was controlled, note down the answers that DATA gave - i didn't bombard people on forums with questions, or annoy people on skype -- because even if i'd find someone that'd help me who knows if what they are saying is true and will work for me?
-- data never lies!! so i tested everything to find what had the biggest impact, and brought the most ROI (i still test new ideas and methods continuously, every day to refine and improve)
Good luck!
06-20-2014 10:33 AM
#26
dr_ngo ()

Originally Posted by
nzbryant
Gee, that's motivating. If I can ask, how do you get to know all these people - what is your role in the industry? Thanks.
I'm somebody you should get to know :-).
I'm known as a "super affiliate" and I have one of the largest blogs in the industry. These newbies are people who have shared their success stories with me from reading my blog, or people that I have personally given advice to.
06-20-2014 10:37 AM
#27
nzbryant (AMC Alumnus)
Iamatilla
Thanks. Nice post. Were you doing this full time - or evenings only?
Cheers
06-20-2014 11:26 AM
#28
iAmAttila (Veteran Member)

Originally Posted by
nzbryant
Iamatilla
Thanks. Nice post. Were you doing this full time - or evenings only?
Cheers
Full time, from day 1 with a full time assistant, and a full time designer on payroll. Was spending almost $4000 per month before I made a dollar, for 6 months I made $0 and was losing half of what I was investing in testing campaigns. Today 6 people and me on my media buying team. Just bought a 4000 square foot (365 square meter) building we're renoving, once we move in, in about 3 months I am going to double my media buying team
06-20-2014 11:42 AM
#29
Mr Green (Administrator)

Originally Posted by
dr_ngo
4 figures profit+ a day.
I have seen it in 2014 with at least 8 different guys. Like i said...NOT TYPICAL, but possible
You gotta get with 5 figure crew!
06-20-2014 11:58 AM
#30
nzbryant (AMC Alumnus)

Originally Posted by
iamattila
Full time, from day 1 with a full time assistant, and a full time designer on payroll. Was spending almost $4000 per month before I made a dollar, for 6 months I made $0 and was losing half of what I was investing in testing campaigns. Today 6 people and me on my media buying team. Just bought a 4000 square foot (365 square meter) building we're renoving, once we move in, in about 3 months I am going to double my media buying team

Thanks. You must have had some moola to go fulltime with staff before having an income. Big balls
06-20-2014 11:58 AM
#31
iAmAttila (Veteran Member)

Originally Posted by
nzbryant
Thanks. You must have had some moola to go fulltime with staff before having an income. Big balls

approached it like a business from the start. only way to roll imo
06-20-2014 10:40 PM
#32
dr_ngo ()

Originally Posted by
Mr Green
You gotta get with 5 figure crew!

4 figure+ crew includes 5 figures crew last time I checked
06-21-2014 11:22 AM
#33
nzbryant (AMC Alumnus)

Originally Posted by
dr_ngo
4 figure+ crew includes 5 figures crew last time I checked
Dr Ngo - watch the beef with Mr Green - us Kiwis stick together
06-22-2014 04:20 AM
#34
darklore (Member)
Encouraging thread. Looking forward to my 1st 6-months ahead instead of just nervous excited, ha.
06-22-2014 11:34 AM
#35
nzbryant (AMC Alumnus)

Originally Posted by
darklore
Encouraging thread. Looking forward to my 1st 6-months ahead instead of just nervous excited, ha.
There seem to be more NZers than one would expect on this forum, given that we have only 4 million people! I wonder why.
06-22-2014 12:33 PM
#36
Mr Green (Administrator)
I heard that NZ is purely an incubator for the world elite. 
06-22-2014 02:43 PM
#37
iAmAttila (Veteran Member)

Originally Posted by
Mr Green
I heard that NZ is purely an incubator for the world elite.

that's it, im moving.. which city has the fastest internet connection?
06-23-2014 12:09 AM
#38
zeno (Administrator)

Originally Posted by
iAmAttila
that's it, im moving.. which city has the fastest internet connection?
Wait for the "GigaTown" competition to end... We have 100-200 Mbit fiber in most cities now, but one city is going to get 1 Gbps fiber rolled out some time in the next year or so I believe.
06-23-2014 09:52 AM
#39
camhawk (Member)
Wasn't planning to post for a few months, was just going to read and crack on, but I have to say I'm also bemused by the number of Kiwis on here... Any of you lot from Wellington?
Here's my back story, which is kinda outta date but you'll see why I ended up on here: www.viperchill.com/forex-case-study/ (hopefully I won't get pinged for a link in my first post)
06-23-2014 10:01 AM
#40
Humbleaid ()
Some great inspiration for those of us just starting out!
http://stmforum.com/forum/showthread...l=1#post162823
$10,000 a month at 16 years old. Amazing.
06-23-2014 10:48 PM
#41
zeno (Administrator)

Originally Posted by
camhawk
Wasn't planning to post for a few months, was just going to read and crack on, but I have to say I'm also bemused by the number of Kiwis on here... Any of you lot from Wellington?
Here's my back story, which is kinda outta date but you'll see why I ended up on here:
www.viperchill.com/forex-case-study/ (hopefully I won't get pinged for a link in my first post)
Lorenzo's from Wellington but he abandoned NZ for Amsterdam. I heard he likes Dutch girls.
06-23-2014 11:00 PM
#42
nzbryant (AMC Alumnus)

Originally Posted by
zeno
Lorenzo's from Wellington but he abandoned NZ for Amsterdam. I heard he likes Dutch girls.
I heard a rumor they have a predilection for standing behind windows there. How cute, nice little games
06-27-2014 08:14 AM
#43
Humbleaid ()
I would recommend reading Charles Ngo's blog. I have found it to be VERY informative.
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