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this scares me... I stopped sending traffic.. but I am getting conversions.. (14)


06-15-2014 08:49 PM #1 superboi (Member)
this scares me... I stopped sending traffic.. but I am getting conversions..

Although I like it.. but it scares me.. I do not want to get in trouble...

Is it possible that it just converted a few days after I stopped traffic because they just opened the app or install it at a later date?

Here is an example:


Code:
DATE                           CLICKS        CONVERSIONS
06/10                          4641                 27
06/11                           533                 2
06/12                            25                 1
06/13                            0                  4
06/14                            0                  6
06/15                            0                  12


as you can see I stopped sending traffic on 06/12

but on 06/15 I got 12 conversions... LOL


06-15-2014 08:59 PM #2 steve from munich (Member)

Can't speak for mobile, but absolutely normal for other traffic sources - some people (often quite a lot) just take some time to finally convert ... maybe they do some research on the app, wait until they have a wifi connection to download it etc.


06-15-2014 09:42 PM #3 Adamw (AMC Alumnus)

App installs convert when the user opens the app, so you can have conversions happen days and sometimes weeks after that user had clicked on your ad/lander. Your trackers should update that conversion though with the correct click from the right day and other campaign data.


06-16-2014 04:00 AM #4 cmdeal (Veteran Member)

There is absolutely nothing to be scared about here.

Indeed I would instead be scared if you DIDN'T get any more conversions the second that you stopped sending any traffic, as THAT would be rather abnormal.


06-16-2014 04:16 AM #5 zeno (Administrator)

Normal.

This should point out to you that it's crucial you understand the conversion point for any offer you are running.

Is a conversion event triggered on initial form submission? On email confirmation (DOI). On completion of an ingame tutorial? On first open of an app after download? You should always know exactly what point qualifies as a conversion for any affiliate offer you run.


06-16-2014 08:27 AM #6 Mr Green (Administrator)

With app install campaigns, it's super important to work out the % of delayed conversions compared to your immediate conversions. This will stop you from making the mistake of pausing a profitable campaign.


06-16-2014 12:50 PM #7 Adamw (AMC Alumnus)

Quote Originally Posted by Mr Green View Post
With app install campaigns, it's super important to work out the % of delayed conversions compared to your immediate conversions. This will stop you from making the mistake of pausing a profitable campaign.
How long do you typically wait to calculate that? About a weeks worth of data?


06-18-2014 08:16 PM #8 bernardk (Member)

I get scared when I'm getting no conversions! These are called latent conversions and need to be factored in when you're calculating your conversion rates, just as Mr Green says. I've had latent conversions before on my mobile marketing campaigns and it can be surprising how many you get this way.


06-18-2014 08:27 PM #9 karim0028 (Member)

So what process do you guys use to keep tabs on it? Ive been noticing this lately as well....

Im guessing just checking stats over a longer period, thats what i do...


06-18-2014 08:38 PM #10 swissfactor (Member)

It's sometimes hard to find out when something converts. Some Affiliate Managers tell you like "This is SOI even tho there is DOI written on the description." LOL


06-18-2014 08:45 PM #11 cmdeal (Veteran Member)

Quote Originally Posted by karim0028 View Post
So what process do you guys use to keep tabs on it? Ive been noticing this lately as well....

Im guessing just checking stats over a longer period, thats what i do...
It's actually a lot more complex than that. If you can track a conversion end-to-end, then there is much less of a problem, but otherwise, you will have to create a custom statistical model to infer and approximate the resulting conversion.


06-18-2014 08:47 PM #12 bernardk (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by cmdeal View Post
It's actually a lot more complex than that. If you can track a conversion end-to-end, then there is much less of a problem, but otherwise, you will have to create a custom statistical model to infer and approximate the resulting conversion.
Now that is scary!


06-28-2014 08:47 PM #13 superboi (Member)

this is one of the reason why I am pausing a lot of my campaign...

it is getting hard to check the ROI...

even when you do monthly stats...

now that I am using Voluum... it is even harder... because they only count the conversion at the "DATE the CLICKID" was generated or traffic was sent...

so for example... on monday a clickid was generated and sent to affiliate network... then that traffic converts on Friday... that clickid gets a conversion from monday... and not on friday...


06-28-2014 11:26 PM #14 cmdeal (Veteran Member)

Quote Originally Posted by superboi View Post
this is one of the reason why I am pausing a lot of my campaign...

it is getting hard to check the ROI...

even when you do monthly stats...

now that I am using Voluum... it is even harder... because they only count the conversion at the "DATE the CLICKID" was generated or traffic was sent...

so for example... on monday a clickid was generated and sent to affiliate network... then that traffic converts on Friday... that clickid gets a conversion from monday... and not on friday...
I don't use Voluum, but you should stagger your traffic so that you can build a data driven model for conversion delay and use this to guide your decision making process.


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