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Are there any safe verticals besides games? (19)

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Everyone AM I talk to tells me most of the pubs who use fb cloak and the only offers they have are ones that need to be cloaked. Surely there have to be some offers that can be run besides games that dont have to be cloaked.

Games has too slow a payout for me. I can do more with SEO for cheaper (even though it takes longer) then with fb trafffic.

Can someone let me know what other verticals there are?

Is my best bet to just go to a place like offervault and see what I can find?

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Daily deals are also pretty good if you can get good offers.

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I have listed quite a few under safe verticals... http://stmforum.com/forum/showthread...l=1#post147263

For the most part, it's up to you to join networks and uncover hidden offers that could do well ;D

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Remember, there are also some very out-of-the-way verticals available from places like Clickbank, ShareASale, etc. Jewelery, shoes, pet training guides - if you look outside the usual affiliate haunts, there's a lot of money to be made from unusual and very clean verticals.

(And it's also worth checking absolutely every website you buy anything from to see if they have a decent affiliate program. I've found some gems that way.)

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Think offers that you would tell your family you run and not be ashamed. That's whats allowed on Facebook.

Now take that thought, and figure which of those offers you can twist and play around with to turn into something else. This is where you get creative with angles.

Some random examples/ideas: SFW Dating, Solar panels, Psychic stuff, collecting emails, insurance, mortgages, etc....

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So where do you find these offers? Are looking at CPA networks the wrong place?

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Where does one find those offers?

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Some CPA networks have these types of offers, such as SFW Dating, Psychic stuff and Insurance offers. Ask around in the network/offers section

Otherwise clickkbank is a VERY doable solution. They have some ebook offers that are doing crazy numbers, and most is allowed on Facebook. Clickbank isn't talked about too much on STM, and i'm no expert myself. ..but theyre are guys doing $xx,xxx/days on clickbank and Facebook

Teespring is 1 more i forgot to mention!

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If you spend a few months and test a bunch of smaller niches without cloaking on Facebook, you might find a very longterm $ niche!

Someone else mentioned an offer recently to improve your golf swing! TONS of unique stuff to test out there.

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But isn't clickbank unstable because they ban accounts or so i heard. I really like to get started with cb+fb.

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I haven't heard of any issues with people getting banned from CB... at least not when running white-hat.

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The big problem with Clickbank is that their payouts tend to be much, much larger than conventional CPA offers. That means that you need a lot more money available for testing in order to reach statistical significance within usual campaign assumptions.

However, because they're outside the usual run of affiliate campaigns, our campaign assumptions don't always apply. One perfectly valid strategy that I've seen executed well in the past is to look for very, very high ROI campaigns - 500% or more - and spend a smaller amount on testing as a result. You'll mill through more ideas but spend less per idea.

Also, ShareASale has much less of a problem with big payouts. A lot of physical product affiliate campaigns will end up with CPA-level payouts of $5 or so. In my experience they're a bit of a bugger to get going, but it's by no means impossible.

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I heard account being banned because of refunds. My friend's cb account got banned coz he got 8 refunds in one day.

How do you find high ROI campaigns? I mean people don't go on sharing their ROIs. Or am i missing something?

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@hunterxhunter - You test campaign ideas Test enough, widely enough, intelligently enough, and you'll find some gems with extremely high ROIs (although often not that high a maximum volume).

But you have to think outside the box and be prepared for a lot of things to not work when you're testing.

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Well, if you were getting 8 refunds a day and got kicked it would be because the refund % is high. If you pushed 5000 leads daily, 8 refunds wouldn't be that bad. It will also depend on the offer. More likely, his traffic was giving a higher refund rate than the average and this suggested the traffic was poor > kicked.

Also, re: ShareASale, do they allow affiliate traffic i.e. media buying etc.? Last I recall when I went to sign up there was something in the ToC about them not wanting this.

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Does Facebook allow EDU these days? It doesn't say anything about it on their Ad Guidelines page but I seemed to recall that they didn't like it anymore.

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@zeno - I just went and checked. Their ToS are somewhat badly written, but it seems that regular Web advertising is fine - "You may place banners or links ... within other web related content.". (They do mention banning "banner networks" later, but I think they're referring to banner-trading rings rather than DSPs.)

They absolutely HATE PPV, though, and ban it extremely thoroughly. I'd recommend only running SaS campaigns on very legit sources.

TBH, looks like they've tightened up their ToS a lot since I last looked at it - it might be best to contact them to confirm you're OK to run before running volume.

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Ahh yes, banners networks was what I spotted but you're right, that will mean banner trading rings.

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I think EDU is hit/miss depending on the niche of education.

They don't love criminal justice/cop/game desginer stuff just from previous bad offers. I think overall its a safe niche.

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