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I'm so frustrated, I cannot get a campaign to profit! (9)


05-21-2014 02:39 AM #1 redrummr (Member)

What offers are other affs pushing in Sweden right now? I ran SE traffic for ages and never used Erovie. You need to join Adsimilis and ClickDealer if you haven't yet, ask for their top SE offers.

Just out of interest, how many campaigns did you launch in those 6 months? Did you try a geo besides SE?


05-21-2014 04:27 AM #2 maynzie (Moderator)

Sweden is not to bad, have you tried running this on iPad traffic?

6 months although feels like a long time, really isn't that much you're still in education mode and probably a whisker away from having everything come together. Do not give up now, get a reward from all that you've been through. There are better offers for SE then erovie, because erovie takes 30+ unless you're running on a hasoffers network which can count leads 18-29 and 30+ differently. I would suggest if you're running the 30+ one to have an option on your landing page for 18-29 traffic and send it somewhere else as this will fill up a large gap in your traffic.


05-21-2014 05:03 PM #3 caurmen (Administrator)

You're definitely doing the right thing asking for help! Well done.

In terms of your overall success: what other things have you done the same each time you started a campaign? Even things that seem really obvious or definitely right could be contributing. Do you always use the same style of landers, source of images, networks?


05-22-2014 12:53 AM #4 paradigmau (Member)

Thanks all for the input.

With regards to previous campaigns I have mostly run on POF and all were English speaking. Whilst I think POF is a good place to learn the ropes, mostly because of POFPro which really takes the pain out of the campaign creation process, I also felt that the lack of volume on POF was always an issue. Also because POF is essentially a one man show you are really exposed to the decisions that Markus makes re the direction of the platform. So if the decision is made that provocative images are no longer appropriate, then a lot of effort and budget goes down the drain.

So I have made the move to Traffic Junky. Bigger pond and plenty of other options for adult traffic should I create a campaign that goes well. So in answer to Redrummr, yes my TJ experience is limited to AU and SE traffic thus far. Also you have recommended Adsimilis and ClickDealer. Are their AM's there you can refer me to? PM me if you would rather not announce them on the forum.

So in terms of campaign creation process I will use SE as the example.

VPN into Stockholm and see what offers, creatives and landers are currently running across the various TJ properties.
Choose offers based on what seems popular with other affiliates.

Initial testing was with ripped creatives and going direct to try and establish a baseline. CTR was poor and conversions were non existent. To be expected.

Next phase was create all my own creatives and start testing various placements. Still direct. Much improved CTR although still poor conversion.

Next add my translated landers in. Rules based, scarcity timer. Also using a short video embed. Still testing variations on the video. Lander click through rates varied but overall conversions increased.

Currently testing a different offer, Xdates. As maynzie said Erovie is 30+ whilst Xdates has no specified age range. Altered my lander to suit (are you over 18?)
Ran it last night. 158 clicks (overall ctr of 0.181), 48 from the lander to the offer (about 30%), zero conversions.

Other affiliates are running this offer in Sweden. I have to assume it converts.

Next lot of improvements? I guess focus on the Lander, try connecting it better to the offer. Maybe drop the video embed and go with a member image gallery. Also I will give ipad traffic a go.

Any suggestions are welcome.

Thanks all.


05-22-2014 03:24 AM #5 zeno (Administrator)

Split test multiple angles.

Be careful with video landers - they can be great for selling things but the page load time associated with video embeds can be gnarly.


05-22-2014 06:29 PM #6 caurmen (Administrator)

Yep, I'd definitely agree with Zeno - testing multiple angles is a must.

I'd also recommend broadening the number of countries you're running in. Some countries are far, far easier to profit in than others, and wide testing is a good way to find them. Definitely test a lot of offers - and I'd recommend testing offers that you don't see other affiliates running, too. Often it's the under-used offer that's the gem.

Hope that helps!


05-23-2014 01:09 AM #7 maynzie (Moderator)

Currently testing a different offer, Xdates. As maynzie said Erovie is 30+ whilst Xdates has no specified age range. Altered my lander to suit (are you over 18?)
Ran it last night. 158 clicks (overall ctr of 0.181), 48 from the lander to the offer (about 30%), zero conversions.
Go to your network and ask for ALL of the SE offers, xdates is not that great, Erovie is good if you can get all ages but there are other offers floating around in networks that convert well man. But yeah like above, keep testing more and more angles, you never know how good one can convert unless you try a lot of different things


05-23-2014 02:59 AM #8 angry old lady (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by caurmen View Post
Yep, I'd definitely agree with Zeno - testing multiple angles is a must.

I'd also recommend broadening the number of countries you're running in. Some countries are far, far easier to profit in than others, and wide testing is a good way to find them. Definitely test a lot of offers - and I'd recommend testing offers that you don't see other affiliates running, too. Often it's the under-used offer that's the gem.

Hope that helps!

totally agree.

running the same offer as your competition or what is getting the most volume is a good indication of what is converting well, but not always what is converting the best for you. in AM, you can never make assumptions on what works and what doesn't without having data to support it.


if you are considering a new geo, id definitely consider a Tier 3 country. less competition and tends to be much easier to start seeing green. also the EPC/CPC tends to be much, much smaller so you get A LOT more data to play with with a smaller budget. also mistakes tend to hurt less on the wallet.

the downside is that there isnt as many offers available and you cant scale them nearly as high as a Tier 1.

but whatever. its easier to go from a dead stop to moving in 1st gear instead of 5th and burning out your clutch


EDIT: btw, im finding that a lot of users tend to stick to a few of their favorite porn sites and don't venture off too far away. If you have a banner that was performing quite decently well once and has now died from banner blindness, throw it on a completely new site or traffic source. most of the time I can expect the banner to perform as good as it once was


05-25-2014 02:20 PM #9 paradigmau (Member)

Good advice all, thanks. I will test across a few tier 3 geos and various offers and see if I can find a winner.

My creatives are good, my landers generally get pretty decent ctr but my conversion rates suck, so I really need to look at my whole funnel and work out where I can boost the conversions. With regards to conversions a decent offer wouldn't go astray


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