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05-09-2014 07:46 PM #1 superboi (Member)
How do you scale your campaigns?

Hi,

Let's just say...

I have a campaign that is giving around 100% positive ROI...

how do you guys scale this up?


From my own point of view... if I spend $100... automatically I should earn $200 because I got a 100% ROI...

now with this mindset... I am ready to spend $500... "expecting" to earn $1000...

but this just does not work for me...


I have tried these:

1) I tried to raise my bid... my ROI goes below +50% (the conversion is tanking... while my spend is going up)

2) I tried to create a new campaign and put them in a new country... my ROI becomes (negative)

3) I tried moving to a different traffic source... (this also makes my ROI negative)


I am starting to think that... moving into a new country... (needs a new data/testing) as the people in that country responds differently...

and also moving the campaign into a different traffic source also requires data/testing... as the ads might be in a different rotation... (does not include the bids price ranges)...

I am also starting to think that my data is not that significant yet to scale the campaign...

but I have been running the campaign for around 12days... and I have been adding new banners and pausing (some not so good banners)... and I still get up to 100% positive ROI...

I just cannot get to scale the campaign up... well I can.. but the ROI goes negative or very low...


Any advice or ideas... is appreciated...

Thanks a lot in advance...


05-09-2014 10:24 PM #2 stackman (Administrator)

You've got a pretty accurate idea of how scaling works. Sometimes its easy magic moving from 1 source to another, but moving from 1 country to a new country is rarely an easy move.

When scaling to a new traffic source (same country):
The idea here is that your campaign will likely work or come close to working, but things will be different because you're advertising in new spots.
- Bring over the core concept of the campaign, but test anything that performed mediocre from the last source. It won't be a 1 hour port over to 100% ROI. Be ready to test a bit.

When scaling to a new country:
- This is completely different! Usually your core concept of the campaign/angle (banners/landing page) your using will work in new countries but be ready to test... New offers/copy adjustment/translation etc..
- A lot of the time it comes down to the offer when scaling to new countries. Certain offers just don't scale well to new countries.


05-10-2014 12:19 AM #3 superboi (Member)

Hi,

First off, thank you so much for taking time to reply to my questions... and also explaining a little bit further the differences of moving into a different country and moving into a different source...

anyway...

About the country part... the campaign that I have is for english speaking country... so I think the adcopy/translation can stay the same... but... the interaction or respond from different group of people is a bit different...

I am just wondering how do you guys approach this type of issue...

base in your answer... my previous data from a specific country/source is a little bit irrelevant when moving into a different "country"...

not totally irrelevant but... still a little bit...

anyway... I got another question...

how many banners do you guys usually keep running?

For example 20 banners... and only 3 banners performing well.. do you guys disable the 17 and add 2 more banners or 3 more?

A lot of my banners have been eating my ad spend...

for example....

1 banner is converting and earning (let's say) $40 for total campaign... and this specific banner adspend is $2...

but because I got a lot of banners.. my adspend goes up... like 10 banners x $2 = total adspend is $20...

I do actively pause none converting banners and adding a new one...


05-10-2014 02:34 AM #4 richierich (Member)

It happens all time. I made around 150% ROI. Now campaign tanked.


05-10-2014 05:33 PM #5 stackman (Administrator)

For example 20 banners... and only 3 banners performing well.. do you guys disable the 17 and add 2 more banners or 3 more?
EXACTLY.

Then you test more, and keep the good 3 running.


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