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04-30-2014 03:25 PM #1 adwater (AMC Alumnus)
AM's recommendation is different than my original idea

Hi, just almost getting my first approval by the first affiliate network, yea! As recommended by some of the top guys on STM on my first post, it would be good to do Mobile in China as the scale there is massive and it's close to where I live. I completely understand that the learning curve will be steep, and I gotta learn fast and test and optimize like a mad man in the next few months before I actually hit my first profitable campaign (which is okay by me).

However, this evening my AM-to be was recommending me to do mobile on some other countries (Malaysia, South America etc.) other than China. My question is, Should I 'PUSH' my intention to him and stick with my logic or just simply listen to him and follow his advice to do other countries (lower competition) first? Whether I start off in a competition-fierced country or some places with lower competition, either way, I will make tons of mistakes and spend lots on data anyway, so does it really matter these places have lower competition to begin with?

Ultimately, my plan should be to scale big to maximize the earnings once I find the profitable niche, wouldn't that mean China would be better choice due to its potentially huge scalability? Does it make sense?

Thanks in Advance.

Adwater


04-30-2014 04:21 PM #2 set4success (Member)

Well... seems like there's pros/cons to both situations. Really, it comes down to how much you're willing to spend to learn.

Why not compromise? Choose a less competitive country so you can learn, while also focusing on campaigns that you can transfer over to China if they turn out successful?

Tbh, South American countries don't make much sense with your goals; completely different cultures, languages, and preferences means your educational experience will be different (different offers, different sales copy, different style landing pages...).

I'm assuming you're planning to market in Mandarin? If so, Singapore or Taiwan seem like places to consider... Do a few campaigns, learn the ropes without as much stress/spending, and if you find any that perform well it'd be much easier to tweak the copy since it's in the same language and the culture/prefences are at least more similar than somewhere on the other side of the planet.

Fellow newb, but that's my 2 cents.


05-01-2014 07:58 AM #3 Mr Green (Administrator)

The advice your AM gave you is probably due to the low amount of offers available to China.

If I were you I would definitely try with China. It would certainly be a tougher learning curve than starting with Malay or South America. But if you crack it, then you will have long term campaigns. Most affiliates are too lazy to put effort in with China. I'm sure there a bunch of Chinese only traffic sources that affiliates have never touched too.


05-01-2014 01:08 PM #4 adwater (AMC Alumnus)

Setforsuccess, I am so ready to jump in and launch the campaigns, South American doesn't make much sense at this point personally. I agree getting the launching and learning experience in Taiwan, Singapore etc is good, though I do want to research more about the Chinese market and venture into the mysterious water as I know there is something great in there!

Quote Originally Posted by Mr Green View Post
Most affiliates are too lazy to put effort in with China. I'm sure there a bunch of Chinese only traffic sources that affiliates have never touched too.
Mr. Green, I just chatted with another AM from a different Affiliate network based in China and they said the most profitable ones they have at the moment are NOT in the country but overseas. They sent me their "Best converting Campaign list" and there are certainly very very few offers targeted the Chinese market on that list. Or is it possible that they know I am such a newbie so they chose not to share those good ones with me even on the list? (I am not familiar of how they think yet.)

So for now, I am going to assume that my first AM (based in Canada) was not able to point me to where I would like to go was because they are 'too' international.

But I am gonna keep digging!


05-01-2014 02:54 PM #5 caurmen (Administrator)

Have you made it very clear to the AMs you're talking to that you have significant advantages pushing offers to China?

They may not have picked up on the fact that it's not just that you're wanting to push offers in China, but that you have some serious competitive advantages.


05-01-2014 06:28 PM #6 adwater (AMC Alumnus)

Good point Caurmen, I will speak to them again tomorrow (2am now) and see what will come up. More I dig, more I start to wonder if some of these guys (affiliate networks) might not have even heard of STM! I think what I am able to pick up here at the forum will serve everyone good!

Thanks to the STM top dogs and the helping spirit of the STM community. I am just starting out but I am already flabbergasted a thousand times!


05-03-2014 03:17 AM #7 zeno (Administrator)

China is new to the playing field so to speak... so there are relatively few affiliate offers compared to the Western world.

That being said, there's so much money in China it's ludicrous and if you can successfully crack the wall and get your foot in the door I say go for it.

Mobile. China. Huge wave of $$ incoming. Guaranteed.


05-05-2014 07:14 AM #8 John Jonas (Senior Member)

Quote Originally Posted by set4success View Post
Well... seems like there's pros/cons to both situations. Really, it comes down to how much you're willing to spend to learn.

Why not compromise? Choose a less competitive country so you can learn, while also focusing on campaigns that you can transfer over to China if they turn out successful?

I'm assuming you're planning to market in Mandarin? If so, Singapore or Taiwan seem like places to consider... Do a few campaigns, learn the ropes without as much stress/spending, and if you find any that perform well it'd be much easier to tweak the copy since it's in the same language and the culture/prefences are at least more similar than somewhere on the other side of the planet.

Fellow newb, but that's my 2 cents.
Here's 2 more cents. Those in Singapore, Taiwan, and other south east asian countries primarily speak and read Fokkien (or Hokkein or Amoy) not Mandarin. They do use Mandarin for formal and business communications but I think your campaign would have more of an impact if you also do it in Fokkein.


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