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04-10-2014 12:13 AM #1 affiliatesf (Member)
Friend is making 1 million/month in Affiliate Marketing

Hi STM'rs-

I have a friend in the United States that tells me he is making 1m/month from Affiliate Marketing, after reading through the forums and trying out some campaigns myself, I do feel its achievable, but what I don't understand is the the following:

1. He only has 3 people total in his organization
2. He off-shores the creative/landing page work
3. He is working 1-2 hours/day at most
4. He has been in this space for 5 years now and has started achieving this scale after he took on private investors for about 1.5 million dollars
5. He is not using/doing any adult monetization.

I am trying to get my hand around the following specific questions:
1. What industry tends to convert this easily?
2. How is he getting his supply?
-Do you think its:
--Emails?
---after reading the forums it seems that these dont convert well
--SEO
---has he made specific blog/content deals for exclusive sites that help him up-sell his affiliates?
--Facebook
--Landing Page
3. How is he getting his Affiliates?
--Is he using just one affiliate network?
--Is he sourcing deals directly?

I have tried asking him myself directly, but he isn't telling me. Rather, he has asked for me to invest some capital, to get a return on investment.

I would really love your feedback on this topic, because his work/life balance is amazing and his returns are great. I just dont understand how and what he is doing.

thanks


04-10-2014 12:16 AM #2 waltermitty (Senior Member)

Are you positive he is only working 1-2 hours/day? Just managing the people he has working for him would take longer than that.
Someone could also write like a 3000 page book on the above topics.


04-10-2014 12:29 AM #3 affiliatesf (Member)

Yeah, I am sure he is working 1-2 hours a day. He has the 2 folks working for him, monitoring the traffic/conversions and then giving feedback to the off-shore team. He works with the affiliates directly. I have asked his friends another people that know him and they all have said he literally works 1-2 hours/day.

I agree, you can write alot on the topic, that's why I wanted to ask the group here, to see if anyone can just help me understand what is going on?


04-10-2014 12:32 AM #4 newbiexp (Member)

Sorry dude, don't take It personal, but I do not believe him. Be careful because there are many fantastic stories out there. And so many bad forums.

Here at stm I believe you have all the necessary info to be successfull in your business.


04-10-2014 12:58 AM #5 zeno (Administrator)

Well, is he a product owner and/or is he just pushing typical offers... I imagine there is some of the former component.

Also, he could mean 1 mil revenue rather than profit.

There are all number of ways he could get to this level, no one can really answer your questions specifically. It could be through any number of industries, traffic sources, offers, networks, etc.

Focus on how you can be successful not how to emulate someone who's apparently making lots of money.


04-10-2014 01:09 AM #6 jason a (Senior Member)

I know a few people making a mill +++a month of this stuff and not a single one of them is asking for investors. Why do you need investors when your making 1 mill a month? lets use easy numbers and say he is getting %100 ROI so he is spending 1mill to make 1mill. The next month if he took the 1mill profit and added to his 1mill from the month before he can now spend 2mill make %100 ROI AKA 2mill a month. Next month he has 2 mill extra plus the 2 mill from the month before..... 4million at %100 ROI he makes another 4million. WHAT THE FAWK DO YOU NEED AN INVESTOR FOR? Unless its a 10 mill investment I dont see a guy making 1mill a month looking for 100k or less. Wouldn't make sense.


04-10-2014 01:20 AM #7 zeno (Administrator)

Good point - if he's making a million a month why the hell would he give a crap about the relatively small amount of cash you could invest to him?


04-10-2014 01:23 AM #8 affiliatesf (Member)

Thanks for the responses, my gutt says there is something fishy with it, but his lifestyle is telling me differently.. in terms of what he buys and how extravagant is life is. I am just trying to rationalize reality from fiction.

So it sounds like it is possible, but if it were, there is no one size fits all approach and he would have to be working more than 1-2 hours/day.

I won't be investing in this, but since he won't tell me what specifically he's doing within Affiliate Marketing, its driving me nutts trying to figure it out, because it can't be that hard.


04-10-2014 01:43 AM #9 zeno (Administrator)

If he's vague and secretive maybe he's doing grey/blackhat stuff. Anyone doing that much revenue, especially after 5 years in IM, likely has a legitimate business and can summarise what they do in a few sentences without giving away anything critical.

1-2 hours a day is nonsensical. I highly doubt anyone making 1 mill+ a month in IM is sitting around doing whatever they want for 22 hours a day. They are either rolling out campaigns, brainstorming, collaborating, checking stats, calling and managing workers, dealing with business development or doing something useful for their business.

You won't get people here telling you IM is easy or that a 1-2 hour work day is likely.


04-10-2014 06:12 AM #10 delash (Senior Member)

I actually do believe that a story like that can be true, that someone is working 1-2 hours a day for 1 million months revenue or profit, I think its achievable.

I do understand from where you question is coming from,

But it sound like you are searching the magic bullet, and you should stop doing so,
Take massive action, test wisely, don't listen to OTHER people, listen to YOUR numbers and the sky is the limit.


04-10-2014 06:30 AM #11 dario (Member)

Guys it's totally achievable

me too I'm making 1,000,000 Zimbabwean dollars every month


04-10-2014 06:53 AM #12 delash (Senior Member)

Quote Originally Posted by dario View Post
Guys it's totally achievable

me too I'm making 1,000,000 Zimbabwean dollars every month
“Whatever the mind can conceive and believe, it can achieve.”


04-10-2014 11:23 AM #13 davidwikes81 (Member)

I think is possible. What are his skill set ? What fields he worked in past?

People don't scale. Systems scale. System don't need much time.. 1-2 hours is enough. Today with cloud we can scale to 9 billion hits in 1 hour or less.


04-10-2014 12:17 PM #14 solaris (Member)

Your friend, his second name isn't 'Eagle' by any chance?


04-10-2014 03:40 PM #15 beastmode (Member)

Does he own a product that converts well? If he has tons of affiliates, then it's totally possible to not do anything and rely on super affiliates that live on STM =]


04-10-2014 04:41 PM #16 vidivo (Member)

You guys aren't reading his entire opening thread... this "friend" wants him to invest in his already 1m dollar business... This guy is not a super affiliate, and most likely is scamming you. If hes making that much he doesnt need your money, nor can really do anything for you if you invest. Thats not really how affiliate marketing works, this is not a stock market. Have you met this guy personally? If not you are about to be scammed 99.9 percent.


04-10-2014 06:17 PM #17 gamble (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by vidivo View Post
You guys aren't reading his entire opening thread... this "friend" wants him to invest in his already 1m dollar business... This guy is not a super affiliate, and most likely is scamming you. If hes making that much he doesnt need your money, nor can really do anything for you if you invest. Thats not really how affiliate marketing works, this is not a stock market. Have you met this guy personally? If not you are about to be scammed 99.9 percent.
This. He doesn't need your investment if he's at that level, and the fact that he's shady about sharing any info with you raises more red flags.

Quote Originally Posted by affiliatesf View Post
I have tried asking him myself directly, but he isn't telling me. Rather, he has asked for me to invest some capital, to get a return on investment.
Tell him that you're thinking of investing, but ask if you can speak directly to some of his past or current investors to get reviews. His response may reveal if he's anywhere near legit or not.


04-10-2014 07:07 PM #18 waltermitty (Senior Member)

The only time I have ever seen an offer like this is when the person in question is trying to spread some risk around. IE: If you want to invest we will just setup this corporate structure and get you up and running etc.


04-11-2014 03:47 AM #19 johnaff (AMC Alumnus)

lol sounds legit, let me know how the investment goes!


04-12-2014 04:01 PM #20 sanctum (Member)

Having investors is a hassle that most business owners would like to avoid. Investors also take time to keep up to date. If he was really doing this well in his business, he would be trying to buy out his investors, not adding more.


04-12-2014 05:00 PM #21 bbrock32 (Administrator)

I know for a fact 1 million a month is possible, but I have NEVER seen anyone doing a million a month getting an investor.

Generally if you hit 1 mill a month it's not from one day to another, it's more a gradual process.

And during that process I think you have time to build your cashflow. Especially lately you can ask you networks to pay daily if you do that kind of volume.


04-12-2014 05:46 PM #22 davidwikes81 (Member)

This is possible. But don't invest in that if you fully don't understand what he is doing. If he is not transparent enough , don't invest in his business. You will end up loosing lot more instead of making fraction of that amount.


04-13-2014 03:05 AM #23 hangman (Member)

Don't invest at all mate! I bet his facebook profile is bit like a clickbank sales letter... watch me sit on a beach while 1 million dollars rolls into my bank account. Want to do the same then invest in my venture! Has scam written all over it man...


04-15-2014 01:40 AM #24 whatcapnocap (Member)

Don't buy into the whole lifestyle thing. I know tons of "big affiliate guys" that are my friends on facebook, yet they are constantly hounding people for offers and freebies, because they can't pay rent. Building a fake personal brand isn't really that hard...you just need to have a deep need for attention by representing a material world that even you can't afford...

And, just like mentioned before, if someone is making a mil a month, why the heck would he ask you for a nickle and dime investment? Red flags all over the place.

Lots of guys in this industry like to talk big...but they don't walk the talk.

And yes, another important question that was brought up was a million a month in profit or revenue? If it's in revenue, it's not really that impressive, all that matters is the profit...

And finally, to get to that scale, I'd suggest you become an advertiser/product owner, instead of an affiliate. Then a million a month is peanuts.


04-15-2014 06:15 AM #25 affiliatesf (Member)

Thanks for everyone's responses. I will not be investing in the deal and unfortunately, he isn't transparent enough for me to realize what is going on. I still believe that if something is too good to be true, it normally is.


04-27-2014 01:31 PM #26 godspeed (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by affiliatesf View Post
Thanks for everyone's responses. I will not be investing in the deal and unfortunately, he isn't transparent enough for me to realize what is going on. I still believe that if something is too good to be true, it normally is.
Give me his info, i'll invest $100.


04-27-2014 09:14 PM #27 stackman (Administrator)

Whether he is lying, exaggerating or telling the truth. It doesn't matter at all.

You can definitely make $1mil/month from affiliate marketing.

To answer your questions, you can make this type of money:
- with Facebook, Email, Mobile marketing and many other traffic sources. Sources like PPV and POF might be a bit harder to hit such high numbers due to limited traffic.
- with affiliate networks or going direct (i've made millions on affiliate networks)

The questions you ask aren't the important ones. You need to ask your AMs for the top offers, choose a traffic source and start hustling my friend.


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