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Does STM have a referral on TV? (12)

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Hi,

It has been 3months since my AM journey.... I have started in fbads... then adult... now I want to try PPV...

I ask my AM... and they wanted me to earn $500 from LI first... before they can Vouch me to TV..

well... I heard a lot of bad things about LI... and they also increased their first deposit to $1k...

I am just asking if STM can provide a referral to TV?

if not.. I guess I have to go with my affiliate network vouching process...

Thanks a lot in advance...

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The problem with TV referrals is that whoever referred you becomes responsible for your actions - you get your account banned and do uncompliant things and the referrer cops it to.

So, you are unlikely to find a charitable person who will refer you... unless they have a TV account that they don't care about.

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Well... yeah.. I already know about this... and this is what warriorforum and network said as well..

Well I guess stm does not have this sort of thing...

Thanks for letting me know Zeno...

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Why have you bounced around from fb to adult and now to ppv?

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If you cannot afford TV (Due to cash of referral) go with 50OnRed if you will make 50onRed work you will make TV work And ye jumping around ain't good thing.

Thanks,

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Echoing what everyone else has said here - I'd definitely recommend choosing ONE traffic source, and sticking to it until you get it to work.

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Hi guys...

thanks for all your input...

I already know that notion about sticking to one traffic source... coz we can get more traction...

but my issue is with the offers...

I am currently focusing on dating and adult offers... and my reason is simple... SEX still fucking sells...

so I went on fbads... got 3 accounts banned... I almost got into green... but zuckerberg is just too furious...

I also went into adult... I got some greens... but like you guys said... adult needs a huge budget... and my adsense earning is shrinking (my primary source... im a fulltime IM)... (i miss those days where I was earning an easy $600/day on adsense... good times... )

anyway...
so I cannot produce a big budget for adult testing...

I read about going eu/latam countries for less competitive countries... but i got some huge barriers in that area... im not good with photoshop.. im still trying to learn to edit images... and adcopy... the translation part is also a huge barrier...

I am still doing adult traffic... I pretty much started in EXO and now going to TJ... and still testing here and there... but for english speaking countries...

I will try to learn more about photoshop... and get into a less competitive countries...

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actually, now I'm curious. I thought one of the bonuses with adult is that it doesn't require as high as a budget compared to anything else? i.e. more straightforward, less split testing etc

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you should definitely still try out LI for starters. Its bids are way cheaper than TV and its got more traffic. Although people are saying the lead quality is not as good, but it still converts.

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I believe what you are pertaining to is for less competitive countries like latam/eu... I also saw a few guys telling the same success story... less competitive = easy market for you..

for US/UK/CA/AU... adult is very competitive... it is really hard to get a significant stat... (this is just based on my experience and what I saw in the forum from other freshmen..) and I am not talking on behalf any other affiliates...


Yeah... LI looks really bad in warriorforum... some people are complaining about last cookie fire... and pop-over publishers and cookie stuffing and etc...

some also says... LI staff are telling their advertisers to stop advertising a particular offer... because LI is going to take over... and etc...

if LI's deposit was still $200... I would definitely go ahead and jump in... but now that it is $1k... I need some time to save... because this is the only way I can get into TV via networks vouch...

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Here's the real scoop: the people complaining about LI in Warrior Forum are fucking idiots and probably aren't making money anywhere. Also there is no "best" PPV network. TV, LI, and 50 all have quality traffic. It just so happens that different offers/niches work better with different ad networks and you can't really blame anybody for that; it just comes down to different user base demographics, ad serving methods, etc.

I'll second the opinion of others and suggest that you start with LI. They have more traffic, less competition, and lower bid prices (generally speaking). Also just fyi, there is nothing "magical" about TV's traffic. It's not going to shorten your learning curve in any meaningful way and until you learn how to run profitable campaigns it's going to be the same everywhere (lots of frustration and head scratching).

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We should print this on T-shirts and hand them out with every STM membership

And on the back it should read "BTW: even after you've learned how to run profitable campaigns, there's still plenty of frustration and head scratching coming to you "

@superboi: Translation really isn't an issue these days. Hit up One Hour Translation - you can get an entire LP and banner set translated for about a fifth of what it'll cost you to test the campaign.

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