STM tracker postback to Decisive not working (19)

Hey STM

I've got a campaign setup in Decisive to promote an app install on Mundo. Conversion tracking is working in STM tracker but not in Decisive.

Here's my current setup:

URL in the Ad:
http://stm.trackerdomain.com/tracking202/redirect/tracker.php?t202id=4214&c1={{{bidhash}}}&t202kw=

Affiliate URL:
http://mundoaffiliateURL.com/mt/v2a4...244w2/&subid1=[[subid]]

Simple Postback URL setup in Mundo:
http://stm.trackerdomain.com/trackin...subid=%SUBID1%

Postback URL setup in P202 -> Traffic Source -> Decisive:
http://win.crwd.io/convert/[[c1]]

I can see the c1 variables in P202. Also when I fire the postback manually with one of the bidhashes the conversion shows up in Decisive.

So I'm guessing the problem is the postback from Mundo to P202 and then to Decisive. I've setup the postback URL in Mundo in the campaign that I'm promoting rather than as a global postback (should it be global?).

Hoping someone can help me out.
Thanks!

I haven't used the 3rd-party postback feature in the STM tracker before but that setup looks correct. A workaround could be passing bidhash and subid to mundo and having two postbacks - one for decisive and one for p202, using e.g. %subid1% and %subid2%.

Thanks zeno!

Would the setup look like this?

URL in the Ad:
http://stm.trackerdomain.com/tracking202/redirect/tracker.php?t202id=4214&c1={{{bidhash}}}&t202kw=

Affiliate URL:
http://mundoaffiliateURL.com/mt/v2a4...244w2/&subid1=[[subid]]&subid2=[[c1]]

P202 Postback URL 1 setup in Mundo:
http://stm.trackerdomain.com/trackin...subid=%SUBID1%

Decisive Postback URL 2 setup in Mundo:
http://win.crwd.io/convert/%SUBID2%

Yes, exactly

I had the same issue with my STM tracker. Unfortunately I was never able to resolve it and had to go the same route Zeno is suggesting. Someone did mention to makes sure cURL is properly installed on my server which is it.

I recently switched with Voluum and haven't had any post back issues. It'll be free for another couple of months as well. I say it's worth a look.

Ideally we will find out why this isn't working as intended and get it fixed, take note Besmir!

@ppcprofits

The second setup should work 100%, no matter if you have Curl installed on your server.

Can you update us if it worked in your case?

Hey guys thanks for all the feedback.

So since yesterday I'm using the alternative setup and it seems to be working fine. Conversions are now starting to show up in Decisive.

Hi guys, I'm having the same issue. Here is my current setup:

URL in the Ad:
http://trackerdomain.com/tracking202...d=7249&t202kw=

Affiliate URL (Adsimilis) in STM Tracker:
http://adstrx.com/?a=xxx&c=xxx&s1=campaign1&s2=[[subid]]

Simple Postback URL setup in Adsimilis:
http://trackerdomain.com/tracking202...ce#&subid=#s2#

Postback URL setup in P202 -> Traffic Source -> Decisive:
http://win.crwd.io/convert/{externalid}

Clearly I'm doing something terribly wrong. Any advice would be appreciated...thanks

1. You're not passing Decisive's unique click ID in the initial banner URL so there is nothing to postback
2. {externalid} is from Voluum, not prosper202.

Pass the unique click ID from Decisive by inserting {{{bidhash}}} as one of your c-values in the banner's URL, e.g.
http://trackerdomain.com/tracking202/redirect/tracker.php?t202id=7249&t202kw=something&c1={{{bid hash}}}

Pass that c-value back in the postback URL:
http://win.crwd.io/convert/[[c1]]

Zeno, you give far more than you receive I'm sure.

Thanks mate

Conversions still not appearing in Decisive

Current setup:

URL in the Ad (Decisive):
http://trackerdomain.com/tracking202/redirect/tracker.php?t202id=xxxx&c1={{{bid hash}}}&t202kw=trial-network-site

Affiliate URL (MobPartner) in STM Tracker:
http://d.mobpartner.mobi/?s=xxxx&a=x...&p=xxxx&subid=[[subid]]

Simple Postback URL setup in MobPartner:
http://trackerdomain.com/tracking202...pb.php?amount=[=payout=]&subid=[=subid=]

Postback URL setup in P202 -> Traffic Source -> Decisive:
http://win.crwd.io/convert/[[c1]]

As always, help is greatly appreciated

Weird, setup looks perfect.

MobPartner lets you set up several S2S URLs so you could always pass the bidhash (c1) to mobpartner as a second subid and have a postback to tracking202 on transaction creation and another to Decisive on validation.

Alternatively, pass bidhash and subid through then have your postback send both values to an intermediate PHP script on your server that fires both postbacks at the same time.

e.g. from tracking202 to MobPartner:

http://d.mobpartner.mobi/?s=xxxx&a=x...&p=xxxx&subid=[[subid]]&tid1=[[c1]]

http://mydomain.com/postback.php?payout=[=payout=]&t202=[=subid=]&decisive=[=tid1=]

<?php
file("http://trackerdomain.com/tracking202/static/gpb.php?amount=".$_GET['payout']."&subid=".$_GET['t202']);
file("http://win.crwd.io/convert/".$_GET['decisive']);
?>

Thanks zeno, I'll give that a try.

If I just want to track creative performance through 202 (and not worry about the Decisive reports), can I set one of the c variables as {{{creative_id}}} ?

Sure, but this loses all the data on ad CTR and cost, so you can certainly track the lander CTR and offer CVR for the creative, but not the ROI (at least not without hassles). I would recommend passing the {{{creative_id}}} through and looking at the Decisive reports. The stats should work together. Decisive shows you ad performance and overall ROI, tracking202 shows you how each creative performs within the funnel you have created.

My approach would be to look at the EPC of each creative in tracking202 then check the CPC in Decisive. That gives a nice quick comparison that indicates profitable and lets you see things like ahah! Creative X is giving EPC >> CPC but only through lander 3.

Sounds like a good plan, thanks again

I've got another problem now. I'm getting my affiliate network to postback the conversion info to p202 and to Decisive. Now I've got a profitable campaign that I want to scale to other ad networks. The affiliate network can't add more than two postbacks for me.

Since the p202 postback wasn't working for me I'm not sure how to track another ad network. Any recommendations here?

As an interim measure, just export your click reports from the network and manually fire the Decisive postback. I.e. paste the postback URL in the browser address bar, fill in the unique Decisive click ID and load it.

You could make a URL list in Excel then using something like Flem for Firefox (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/flem/) to cycle through them and fire all the postbacks. Or, you could just use the URLs directly from Excel or pasted somewhere else and click click click until you have fired them all.

The more technical approach would be to set up a PHP file that you send clickIDs to and have it fire off multiple postback URLs. This is pretty easy to do, see this post here: http://stmforum.com/forum/showthread...l=1#post147940

Did you manage finally to solve this issue in P202 without additional hacks?
I now have got the same problem as can't send more than 1 postback from aff network and my postback from P202 doesn't work but i can see [[c1]] and can fire this conversion manually