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Click loss on JuicyAds (9)


03-14-2014 08:13 PM #1 dirtbag (Member)
Click loss on JuicyAds

What sort of click loss have others here experienced on JuicyAds? It seems like I lose anywhere from 25-45% of clicks right off the JA adblocks, most campaigns in the 35-40% click loss range. Doesn't seem to matter if I direct link, or send traffic to a lander. Cloak or don't cloak. Is that an average click loss across the board for Juicy Ads. I've fired up a few campaigns with them that would probably be in the green, or at the very least breaking even right now, if that click loss was even knocked down to 10-20%. I could accept a 10-20% loss as an expected variation, but 45% of all clicks never making it anywhere seems exceedingly high. I haven't gone through the effort of compiling my on site analytic data and my traffic source data from JA to see if massive click loss is originating from a particular sourc eor not, but would be curious what others here have to say in the mean time.


03-15-2014 07:22 AM #2 zeno (Administrator)

That's far too high. Have you contacted JuicyAds about it? How are you measuring the click loss - based on click data from your tracking system? Are dupe IPs taken into account? Still, 25+% is ridiculous.


03-15-2014 09:05 AM #3 dirtbag (Member)

That's comparing "unique clicks" from Juicy Ads, my P202 stats tracking "show real clicks", and my clicks on my CPA network to the offer.


03-15-2014 09:55 AM #4 zeno (Administrator)

Are they many more clicks if you switch p202 to show all clicks?


03-15-2014 10:06 AM #5 dirtbag (Member)

Show all clicks puts me roughly 10% over my estimated clicks in JuicyAds. It's a substantial jump.


03-15-2014 10:37 AM #6 zeno (Administrator)

Sounds like the issue might be duplicate clicks from the same IP. Any mobile traffic in there?


03-15-2014 04:46 PM #7 dirtbag (Member)

Boatloads of dupes. On the campaigns I use landing pages with, I track with Piwik so I can get detailed data about on on-page actions. Not unusual to see 5-6 clicks from the same IP within say 20 seconds, followed by an immediate bounce. It behaves like obvious bot traffic in my opinion, and I try to keep on top of blocking any publishers that send massive amounts of multiple clicks like this, but there's just so many of them. I've even noticed surges in multiple raw clicks like this from several sites in a few hours window all from the same publisher. I'm not expert, but I think it's safe to assume what is going on there.

As for mobile, there are quite a few mobile clicks in the mix, I've been told by my JA rep that there's no way to filter them out, and I don't currently redirect my mobile traffic. According to P202 I'm actually still getting quite a large number of signups on Android platforms despite not really supporting them. I suppose those numbers could go up if I actually directed them to a mobile optimized funnel.


03-15-2014 07:23 PM #8 bbrock32 (Administrator)

This might quite normal if you buying mobile traffic too.

On mobile a lot of users will share the same IP so prosper will detect that as bot traffic.

However, do some more research anyways, I've had bot traffic from Juicy in the past and got refunded.


03-15-2014 07:35 PM #9 dirtbag (Member)

I reported one site that was obvious bot traffic. The site was removed, but I was never refunded anything. My line of communication with my JuicyAds rep is garbage. I leave a message and I'm virtually ignored unless it has to do with adding more money to my account. JuicyAds really REALLY seems to hate any implication that there is any bot traffic whatsoever on their network. I've seen it a few times on threads in public forums where someone mentions they believe they've been hit by bot traffic, and a JuicyAds rep swiftly flies in to deny it vehemently, and then proceeds to bash whoever questions their traffic quality. I figure it's best to just identify the offenders and block them from all my campaigns, leaving them be so they can eat up the competition's budgets if they don't catch on for themselves.


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