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[Question]: How do you move from free SOI to DOI to CPS? (9)


03-12-2014 05:07 AM #1 superboi (Member)
[Question]: How do you move from free SOI to DOI to CPS?

Hi guys,

I have been doing SOI and DOI here and there...
From my cpvlab stats (OVERALL): from 02/09/2014 - 03/11/2014
I got around 8000 clicks... with around 300+ conversions... SOI (80%) and DOI (20%) and CPS (0% conversion)
(I still did not get any positive ROI on any campaign except my 7search campaign... which i am having trouble scaling up... they do not have that much traffic)...
but that is okay... I am still collecting data...

From my own experience... It is hard to get a conversion on a DOI... than a SOI... (I think the reason is pretty obvious)...
and on CPS (cc submit)... I cannot get a single conversions out of 600+ clicks...

So, I ended up searching for SOI offers so I can get more conversions and practice.... after all.... SOI is pretty easy to get signup because peeps don't want to pay up or even click a link on their email... or submit a cc...

but for now... I wanted to know... how do you guys move from SOI to DOI to CPS?

I believe at some point everybody started from SOI right?

I also wanted to move up to CPS in the future...

Thanks a lot in advance!


03-12-2014 06:50 AM #2 sean3 (Member)

You can be happy with the positive campaigns, all we require is to generate profits for ourselves, once you have enough funds to start testing, we can go for CPS and other stuff..but let us take one step at a time..I highly suggest you scale any profitable campaign you have..All the Best Superboi !!


03-12-2014 07:13 AM #3 caurmen (Administrator)

How much did your 600 clicks cost?

The major difference between soi, doi and cps is the budget required for testing, because unless you have an insane killer offer you'll need a lot more traffic to produce a sale.


03-12-2014 07:22 AM #4 superboi (Member)

You can be happy with the positive campaigns, all we require is to generate profits for ourselves, once you have enough funds to start testing, we can go for CPS and other stuff..but let us take one step at a time..I highly suggest you scale any profitable campaign you have..All the Best Superboi !!
Thanks a lot! I know you are right... I guess I have to keep collecting data...

How much did your 600 clicks cost?

The major difference between soi, doi and cps is the budget required for testing, because unless you have an insane killer offer you'll need a lot more traffic to produce a sale.
the 600+ clicks costs around $200 and the payout was $49 it was a clickbank and source is fbads...

I also heard that peeps in fb have their "GUARD ON".. when it comes to paying or cc submit... so the most you can get in FBads is free signups SOI/DOI...


03-12-2014 07:28 AM #5 caurmen (Administrator)

That's definitely not the case. Plenty of dollars have been made on cb via fb ads.

$200 on a $50 offer sounds like time to pause that campaign and try another angle, but no more than that.


03-12-2014 09:26 AM #6 Finch (Moderator)

For an SOI campaign to have long-term potential, it still has to produce sales for the advertiser.

Doesn't matter whether you promote SOI, DOI or CPS.

For SOI, you're being paid a smaller commission upfront on the basis that your quality will be decent. If it's not decent, you get culled. What makes decent traffic? Valuable leads. And that's usually determined by sales.

For DOI, the advertiser is generally tired of getting extremely low quality leads and wants to add some extra protection in the form of the email confirmation. In dating offers, when an advertiser decides to switch from SOI to DOI it's often bad news as they won't raise the payout enough to reflect the extra step. On the other hand, you're more likely to get a stable campaign with an advertiser that takes these precautions.

CPS is the best model when you already know that you are one of the top 5% affiliates for an offer. If the advertiser can't get enough of your traffic, it makes sense to test this model. The advertiser is also more likely to bump your payout to the stratosphere. A sale is a sale. They will give you top payouts for credit cards through the door.

I don't think it's true that affiliates progress from SOI, to DOI, to CPS with experience.

We generally take whatever we can get, and whatever pays us the most. That is usually a SOI, which crashes and burns much faster than a stable CPS offer.

Affiliates who get sick of losing offers every morning may end up leaning towards CPS, but it's a pretty mixed bag.


03-12-2014 05:06 PM #7 superboi (Member)

For an SOI campaign to have long-term potential, it still has to produce sales for the advertiser.
This is very true! And it also happens to me... for the offer that I was sending 50+ leads in one day... they requested me to stop promoting their offer until they make a sale and blah blah blah...
(I spent $150 and only earned $100 on that campaign)

However, what would be my future on that certain offer/advertiser? If they get a sale on my leads in the future will they be able to trace/find me and tell me to promote their offer again or not?
If they requested me to stop promoting their offer... is that going to be final or just a temporary decision? I really wouldn't know the quality of my leads... all I know is that I am promoting via a legit means and I am trying as much as I can to get people to join... making these people buy or do cc submit is on the advertisers hands...


03-12-2014 05:40 PM #8 waltermitty (Senior Member)

If they know what they are doing you better believe they are tracking the leads but affiliate subids. Trust me if they are making money with your leads they will contact the network to get more. You can also hit up your AM after a couple of weeks to see if anything has changed.


03-12-2014 10:09 PM #9 bbrock32 (Administrator)

As Finch said, no matter what model your run on, at the end of the day the advertiser has to make a profit in order to pay everyone down the ladder.

Between the 3 models, given that you can send quality leads, I would go with DOI.

It is a bit more stable than SOI due to the higher quality of leads and on the other hand you don't have to float a lot to keep running.

If you scale running CPS or rev-share you better have very good cashflow since the float goes up very fast.


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