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02-24-2014 07:29 PM #1 ricmed (Member)
Mobile - My first follow along, here is the plan...

Hi all,

I've launched a few campaigns here and there without too much focus -basically a newbie. So I'm going to start this follow along aiming at:

1) Accountability.
2) Hopefully having some needed feedback from the STM masters and everyone else that can help me (I really want to give some value in return but haven't found a way how I can do it since I'm a newbie myself...but that belongs in another thread...).
3) Welcome anyone who is serious to talk/mastermind/keep each other accountable and can provide each other value somehow.
3) Other newbies can learn from my mistakes (on a related comment, I'm not sure how much information to give out without compromising my campaigns)

...sooooo here is the plan...

Budget: $100/day for a month, so $3k total (which I'm prepared to lose it all). More needed to scale and/or signs of profitability.
Networks: F5, Clickdealer (I'm member of a few others but want to keep them tight for cash-flow optimization).
Tracking: Voluum.
Offers: 0-2$ payout offers, starting on spanish speaking markets.
Traffic: is it that important? (a well known network). Let's call it XYZ. Already funded and talked with reps.

8 banners, 3 offers. So 30 combinations around 3-4x the payout (around $100 the daily budget). DL for now.

First question: I'm trying to balance efforts to launch fast but to make good banners. How much time does it take you guys to make let's say those 8 banners for an initial test?

That's about it I guess.

Any feedback deeply appreciated!

Thanks!


02-24-2014 07:39 PM #2 fatmach (Member)

Looks like we are in a very similar boat. I am also a member of clickdealer and f5. I wouldn't mind teaming up with eachother so we can motivate and keep eachother accountable. PM me with your skype and I will add you if you are interested so we can discuss further.


02-24-2014 08:24 PM #3 bbrock32 (Administrator)

Congrats for taking action!

That's the first step towards success. As long as you dont give up you will be able to get mobile profitable.

As for ads, I would start with 3-4 different concepts, split test them and expand with variations on the winning concept.


02-24-2014 10:45 PM #4 maynzie (Moderator)

^ bbrock nailed it, awesome start and mobile is definitely a lucrative market. Do not fear spending money on data, mobile is all about that looking forward to some results so we can further help you out mang


03-05-2014 02:40 PM #5 ricmed (Member)

Hey guys, how is it going?

Didn't bail. Just had a some issues setting things up and creating and getting approved ads. Finally launched my first official mobile campaign and had some data:

Spent: $7.
Revenue: $0.
Profit: -$7.

Ads: 12 (2 styles, 3 headlines, 2 photos. All same size).
Impressions: ~4500 each.
CTR: from 0.3% to 0.57%.

DL.

Targeting: one campaign, just country.

Offers: 3 (1 + 2 LP of another). Sweepstakes.
Payout: $1.2.
Traffic: $2,5 to each.

Optimization:

Ads:
Based on the results from the AB split test calculator I'm cutting off 2 banners that reached 95% confidence having less CTR than the best ad.

Targeting:
I will break into 2 different campaigns since it will help with bidding. Wifi and Carrier traffic.

Overall: more data to cut off more banners based on statistical significance to be able to create more based on the winners.
Next steps: add a LP.

Questions:

* How many times the offers' payout should I spend before cutting off the offer?
* In mobile what is best to throw at first? different verticals? different countries....?
* How do you manage a country where there are not that many offers available?

* Should I separate the campaign also into App/Sites?

Thanks!


03-05-2014 10:50 PM #6 zeno (Administrator)

When it comes to separating campaigns on mobile I think there is a 4-way split that's pretty much mandatory:
Carrier vs WiFi and Site vs App, viz.
Campaign 1: Carrier/Sites
Campaign 2: WiFi/Sites
Campaign 3: Carrier/Apps
Campaign 4: WiFi/Apps

You really want to optimise these separately, at the very least optimise app vs site placements separately. Mobile is very data intensive - say you have a $2 payout offer, it might take $100 with only several conversions before you optimise to profitable site/app/carrier combos. Just make sure you are using an offer that's proven to work - you could certainly pioneer the way on a new offer but I wouldn't when starting out and on a low budget. There is a tonne of info on the forum regarding how to approach mobile campaigns so definitely sponge all that up and take notes.


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