Building Your Own Traffic Source? (12)
Has any one ever tried building their own traffic source?
There are few out of the box adult video scripts that look easy to setup and with a small budget to buy backlinks, custom development and hosting it shouldn't be to difficult to bring in some traffic.
It's not an easy feat.. you'll have to look at it as a full startup if you want to be successful. If you aren't hiring a bunch of people and your playing the roles of tech/sales etc.. be ready for LONG days over a few long years, but an amazing longterm business once it's established!
I've join this forum few days ago.
I've been in the adult market for the last 10 years, and I've never buy traffic. I do SEO for living, with a result of xx,xxx$ of pure profit each month.
I've try several times to buy traffic from Adwords but I was always been more successfull generating free traffic from Google.
Two years ago, it was a different time, before penguin an panda arrived, it was way much easier.
The big tubes where not so present in the top keywords of Google (at least for the french market).
Now it's very different, way more difficult not to get some traffic but to keep the traffic, because Google will shoot down your website one day or an other.
I've past the last two years building my own automatic system to build websites (tubes) that are auto generated and will have a short life bringing me xxx visitors per day.
Of course you need a lot of websites with xxx visitors a day to make real money at the end of the month, today I have more than 10,000 websites in my system.
But I really think it's the key to survive in the Google jungle nowadays. Targeted the very long tail keywords with thousand of websites and stay under the radar.
And it has to be autogenerated, because you have to kill the dead one to bring new one every day.
10 days ago I lost 30% of my Google traffic, Google kill 1600 of my websites, I delete them and autobuild fresh new one.
Of course, building a lot of websites, very fast and with the SEO setup as automatic, is very hard.
I see people around me that keep building websites by hand, the old school way, they do not earn money (well, of course it depend how much you want to earn...), and when they to earn a little, Google kill them. Building a new website is days of work for them, seconds for me.
People that were in the market two years ago are almost all in the mainstream now...
I do everything by myself, so I dot not have to pay other people neither the traffic Google give me, so I earn a lot of money instated of paying charges.
If you have to pay people to do the technical stuff for you (assuming you already know what it has to be done), it will be more difficult.
The hardest and most important thing is the equation is the backlinks.
And if I can get you one advice in this game, do not buy established websites with good rankings and a lot of traffic, it's pure gambling.
Friends of mine lost xxx,xxx$ doing this in the last two years, when Google decided to change it's algorithm two month after...
This month I've finish to adapt my system to the US language and start my first 2500 websites in english.
I wish you a lot of success if you decide to start in this game.
I was thinking of trying the Media Buying game buy the end of the year, that's king the opposite 
Have fun !
^^ you've got some automation going on there buddy. Nice
givizator - When you say you're about to launch 2500 websites in English, are we talking brand new domain purchases for each? That alone is a 25k investment. Seems a lot if you're pinching pennies with small pockets of traffic.
If the churn rate is that high, are you relying on just a few of the websites to make it big? Or an accumulative effect of the entire portfolio?
@Finch
Let's do some little maths :
1 domain name : 10$ a year
1 sell with this website on the year : 120$
with a lot of websites, the hosting does not cost so much per website, let say 10$ a year.
so 20$ a year for a website, 1 sell make 120$, so you have 100$ left for you.
I take an average of 40,000 visitors (in the french market) to make 1 sell of 120$ with very long tail traffic.
40,000 / 365 ~= 110 visitors a day
Not so much, as you can see.
In my experience, building a tube with 2000 pages, charging it with a shot of backlinks (and adding new backlinks each days) will make a website with 200 to 3000 visitors a day in a few weeks.
Then it will fall to the 10-200 range after a few months.
Some websites will not work at all, others will stay up, that the gambling part of the process.
And there is a trick to reduce a lot the global cost of building a website, but that's of topic ^^
Of course, the goal of the whole process is to build an army of websites to boost some very big tubes that will target the middle tail and head keywords where the traffic is 2x and 4x more valuable.
I am just beginning this part of the process, for now my biggest website make less than 10% of the global income.
Will see how I can perform on that in a few months.
Edit :
I do not count $ for the backlinks here, because I use my others websites to backlink the new ones.
Of course if you have to buy backlinks, that will cut the profit.
That's why I said that backlinks is the tricky part of this process.
churn and burn is very much still alive, but Google is making it harder for peeps.. and beating them down into submission..
for anyone new to it, and not so versed in scripting for automation, uBot can go a long way to help... you can set it up to log in to server and set up your hosting,dns,content etc all in the click of a mouse.. make a list of your newly purchased domains and X that by 100 a day 
PS I've never even attempted this with porn niche tho !!
Originally Posted by cmdeal
Yea, Sub domains.
I know what he is doing, very similar to Cloaking. I played that game for years, auto generating 1000s of sites per day with scraped content, auto linking etc.
It is alot harder to build sites that work with the churn and burn method now a days and far more profitable to build a long term business that does not get penalised by Google.
If you are registering 2500 domain names i'm sure some companies can give you a nice bulk rate ^^.
Originally Posted by cloudf
If I were in the mainstream area, maybe I will do only this.
But, as far as the only way to get links in the adult market is to break Google guidelines, building a website that will not be penalised by Google is not so easy.
I've seens a lot of great tubes, with good contents, nice descriptions and pretty clean backlinks be penalised by Google over the last two years.
Having a lot of websites is more secure, because usually they do not get all penalised the same day.
I think the better option is to work in the two ways, building a lot of small websites to get some stability and quick results and use them to send a lot of traffic to your big long term tube, hopping it will survive for more time.
Have you stop auto generating websites, or do you still do this ?
I still do adult blogs old school, by hand. Not sure if i would want to learn how to auto setup them and spam google with them, doing original content and quality works better for me. Having them built and still making revenue 2, 3 years after, mostly passive, is pretty awesome. That doesnt mean that I dont worry about the next google algo tho, hence me on this forum.
Yeah, my biggest issue are the backlinks, I need tens of thousands, the larger the network grows, the harder to provide backlinks for all.
Originally Posted by dynamicsoul
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